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Old 06-05-2012, 01:36 PM   #1
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Default Type of Lugnuts for BBS WRX Option Forged Wheels?

I just recently purchased 4 BBS Forged WRX Option wheels (17x7.5?) because I ruined one of my wheels (enkei zr1) and can't find a replacement. I'm not sure what kind of lugnuts I'm supposd to get. I was looking into some muteki lugs, but after talking to the 'specialist' at the rallyspec website, he mentioned that aftermarket tapered lugs will not fit for BBS wheels that require acorn style lugnuts, but then I read threads saying aftermarket lugs are okay so i'm just super confused at this point.

The lugs i was actually looking to get were these

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Old 06-06-2012, 08:55 AM   #2
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bump...I guess a better question to ask is can you put tapered lugs (tuner lugs) on BBS factory wheels?
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Old 06-06-2012, 12:16 PM   #3
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If they were specifically the ones optioned for WRX wheels, stock/tuner lugs should work.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:46 PM   #4
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Well, you got me looking at my OEM lug nuts. They are a straight taper. There is no curvature to the seat profile.

It's easer to inspect a lug nut than the seat on one of my other stock STi wheels in the garage. An outy vs a inny as it were. Just like it is easer to measure a bolt thread than a nut.

P.S. IIRC those WRX BBS wheels are 17x7. It should be on the wheel near the lug area on the face, or the back next to the stud holes.

I orderd my Muteki nuts from RallySportDirect.

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Old 06-06-2012, 04:14 PM   #5
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Yes, 17x7 I just found out too - thank you for validation....

So it looks like i'll be okay to order those muteki lugs? One thing I am worried about it how hard to tighten them, I don't want to chip the paint

Thank you for your responses.
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Old 06-06-2012, 04:14 PM   #6
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wtfbbq double post...

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Old 06-06-2012, 04:33 PM   #7
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You softely torque the nuts to 66 ft-lb so the wheels don't fall off.
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Old 06-06-2012, 04:53 PM   #8
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Thanks for your quick response, Web. So I guess I can't use aftermarket lugs because since it's an OEM wheel, the ball/radius lugnuts are the correct ones, not tapered aftermarket ones
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Thanks for your quick response, Web. So I guess I can't use aftermarket lugs because since it's an OEM wheel, the ball/radius lugnuts are the correct ones, not tapered aftermarket ones
Yes you can.

I was just working up a response to your other thread:

What the heck are "acorn seat" lug nuts?

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...&affiliate=FH7

I've worked in the wheel end industry and know what a ball seat looks like.

I've always thought of an acorn nut as having a closed head. Like this:

http://search.aol.com/aol/imageDetai...itle=acorn+nut

Just looking at the OEM nuts you can tell they are strait taper. I put a machinist scale on them. No curved face. Put two nuts seat face to seat face and the shanks are parallel. No rocking.

This was with nearly new, OEM nuts that I took off my BBS wheels nine years ago for wheel locks. They have been in my tool pouch in the trunk all that time. No blemishes to distort things.

So, ether this old Layout Inspector doesn't know how to measure things, or we have straight taper lug seats.

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Old 06-07-2012, 12:59 PM   #10
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The middle one is the OEM while aftermarket is the picture on the left is what i was told.
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:04 PM   #11
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I can tell you that the left is what was on my STi when I bought the car in May of 2003 with 7 miles on the odometer. No option on the car, and I still have the window sticker.

I think I figured out what is going on though.

The OEM lug nuts are closed end acorn style for alloy wheels. Note the word style, not seat. Somehow in the RallySportDirect.com system that is getting turned into type and then seat.

Remember the old game of telephone?



Edit: I see the tirerack page doesn't load now. It's the same diagram that you have.
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:35 PM   #12
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The middle one is the OEM while aftermarket is the picture on the left is what i was told.
Incorrect. The left is oem AND aftermarket for our cars. You have to go out of your way to get ball or flat seat lugs for our cars.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:28 AM   #13
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wonderful! i'm going to get some muteki lugs then...TY! I guess the guy at rallysport direct didn't know what he was talking about ^^
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:40 PM   #14
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wonderful! i'm going to get some muteki lugs then...TY! I guess the guy at rallysport direct didn't know what he was talking about ^^
No, he didn't. You might want to let them know so their web master can delete that answer on their web site. A lot of people could be F' over by his answer...
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Hello gentlemen and ladies... i've got a 2003 WRX, with stock (non bbs) wheels at the moment.

I've got some 2004 STi wheels on order, no lug-nuts included.

I Will be able to use my factory lugs, right?
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You're swapping from an OEM wheel to... an OEM wheel. So, yes. Both cars used the exact same lugs.
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thanks much
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