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Old 06-16-2015, 10:06 PM   #1
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Results:
- Stock turbo (mods listed below)

First Power Run:
- 300 WHP @ 5600 RPM / 15.5 PSI
- 327 WTQ @ 4300 RPM / 18.5 PSI

Last Power Run: Dyno Print
- Temp rose 2F and car was hott
- 296.7 WHP @ 5600 RPM / 15 PSI
- 321 WHP @ 4300 RPM / 18 PSI

Environment:
- Mustang dyno
- 80- 82F / +30% humidity
- Myself and my tuner were in car on dyno because I had to blow in my breathalyzer, unfortunately so maybe would have been a few more WHP.

Other:

- 285WHP @ redline / 14 PSI
- 235 WTQ @ redline / 14 PSI
- Smooth healthy curves

The tune was conservative, timing, boost, and AF could have been pushed a bit further but we decided the returns were diminishing and it was best to play it a bit safe.

Very happy with the results. The car runs great and pulls hard, it really just wants to go. Matt Miner has helped me with all my parts and some installation and tuned my car. Id recommend him to anyone in New England, I definitely wouldn't go anywhere else.

The car will stay like this for a while, and I will work on cosmetics and driving experience until I'm ready to upgrade the turbo and build the motor and potentially swap the tranny.


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Background:

So I have a 2013 WRX sedan with 30k (9/1/15) miles on it. I bought it with 9k miles on it In November 2014. I now have a daily driver so I can stop racking up miles on the WRX.

I plan to keep this car for maybe 6-10 years, as it won't be my daily. The goals for my car are basically just to have fun with it and be a cool weekend car. Take it to some shows, cruise with some buddies, and potentially go to a few autox's and/or bring it to the strip, but mostly I just love cars and going fast. I will keep the car as is until I'm ready to upgrade turbo, build motor, and potentially swap tranny.


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Current Mods:

Fuel:
- Dw65 fuel pump
- 1000cc ID injectors

Intake/compressor:
- Cobb EBCS
- Grimmspeed TMIC
- Turbosmart BPV
- Cobb SF intake with box
- TGV delete
- Air injection system delete

- Colder NGK plugs

Exhaust:
- Perrin equal length headers
- Invidia N1 turbo back
- Grimmspeed uppipe
- Turbosmart 40mm external wastegate
- Perrin turbo blanket

Tuning:
- Cobb Accessport 3 - Protuned/Dyno
- 300whp / 330wtq @ 19psi (80F / 30% H)

Driveline:
- Group N engine mount, tranny mount, and pitch stop
- Cobb short shifter and knob

Suspension/Handling:
- Feal 441 coils w/ custom valving
- 22mm Whiteline rear sway bar
- Rolled fenders
- Enkei Kojin Wheels 18x9.5 et40 (BFG Sport Comp 2 - 255/35/18)

Interior:
- Cobra laser

Exterior:
- Bayson R CS1 front lip
- HPT CS side skirts
- Bayson R rear spats
- Rally Armor mud flaps
- 20% tint all around

Audio:
- Pioneer 4000NEX HU
- 12" fi Q with custom box
- Sundown SCV-2000d
- Sundown 150.4
- ID CTX65 components
- DC Power 250a alt
- XS Power D3400 & XP 950 batteries
- Deadened

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Future plan:

- Brake recall
- 375-400whp on a somewhat conservative/safe tune
- AOS
- lightweight pulley
- Built rallispec short block
- Stock location Dom 1.5 XT-R, 2.5 XTR, DOM 3 XTR, FP Green, or something similar that will spool quick, reach my power goal, and hold on up top as well.
- STI tranny swap
- Big break kit


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Update 9/1/15:

Little update guys. Just been doing a few things here and there, got tinted.

Over the winter I will be saving money and collecting parts for an STi tranny swap with an r180 rear diff.

Then I'll be buying a turbo. Maybe a Dom 1.5xtr or a Dom 3, haven't decided. I have all of the supporting mods for this I believe...can someone confirm this by checking my first post mod list? I will run it tuned down until I get my built short block.

Then I will be buying a built short block from rallispec most likely that will be over a year from now








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Update 7/15/15:

Adjusted coilovers and added front lip and yellow fogs:












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Update 6/23/15:

Replaced copper washers on turbo oil feed line after an oil leak. Cleaned engine bay and lower engine spotless and changed oil.

Lowered car. Still need to go a bit lower all around and put my lip kit on.


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Old 06-17-2015, 10:59 AM   #2
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Awesome numbers, wish it wasn't 115 in AZ so I can run similar boost levels haha.
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Old 06-17-2015, 11:25 AM   #3
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Sounds like a solid car. Post the dyno plot
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Old 06-17-2015, 12:08 PM   #4
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Edit whoops double post

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Old 06-17-2015, 01:03 PM   #5
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Edited first post with dyno print out:

First Power Run:
- 300 WHP @ 5600 RPM / 15.5 PSI
- 327 WTQ @ 4300 RPM / 18.5 PSI

Last Power Run: Dyno Print
- Temp rose 2F and car was hott
- 296.7 WHP @ 5600 RPM / 15 PSI
- 321 WHP @ 4300 RPM / 18 PSI

Environment:
- Mustang dyno
- 80- 82F / +30% humidity
- Myself and my tuner were in car on dyno because I had to blow in my breathalyzer, unfortunately so maybe would have been a couple more WHP.

Other:

- 285WHP @ redline / 14 PSI
- 235 WTQ @ redline / 14 PSI
- Smooth healthy curves


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Old 06-17-2015, 04:18 PM   #6
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Sounds like a solid car. Post the dyno plot

Posted upon request!
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Old 06-17-2015, 06:36 PM   #7
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Had one of those breathalyzer in my car a few years back. What a pain in the ass that **** was.... That thing will teach you a hard and expensive lesson none the less.

I remember dropping it off at Precision Tuning and teaching them how to work it. Its funny now looking back, but sure wasn't fun then.

Good look with the car.
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Old 06-18-2015, 12:55 AM   #8
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Had one of those breathalyzer in my car a few years back. What a pain in the ass that **** was.... That thing will teach you a hard and expensive lesson none the less.

I remember dropping it off at Precision Tuning and teaching them how to work it. Its funny now looking back, but sure wasn't fun then.

Good look with the car.
yeah man and get this, I got two of the bitches! one in my WRX and one in my little daily driver. paying $130 a month each and having the drive an hour and change to the servicer to get the device "calibrated" twice a month is no fun.

however, it has taught me to plan ahead of time and will definitely give me the tools i need to not say oh ill just have only a couple drinks at the bar, then that turns into a few, and then your 7 beers deep and driving home.

expensive lesson learned.

but the car is running great. the engine is going to stay like this for a while maybe will do a few things like AOS and I will finish up my interior and exterior in the mean time while i save for a turbo, motor build, and potential tranny swap.
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Old 06-18-2015, 05:27 AM   #9
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good solid #s, a dom 1.5 will give you quick spool and good top end, if e85 is available a tune for that will give you another 40+whp
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Old 06-18-2015, 01:47 PM   #10
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good solid #s, a dom 1.5 will give you quick spool and good top end, if e85 is available a tune for that will give you another 40+whp

Do you think if I'm building the motor regardless I should step up to a Dom 3 or a 30r but just not push them to the limit?

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Old 06-18-2015, 05:01 PM   #11
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Also, what's your take on the wrx tranny. Would it be better to sti tranny swap? Or go 1-4ppg gearset and syncros?

From what it looked into, building the wrx tranny with 1-4 ppg gears, syncros, shift fork, and new clutch will be roughly $5,000 plus labor?

And it seems a good condition 2014 sti tranny with low miles will run about $3,500, but then I know I would need rear diff, shifter assembly, potentially axles, hubs, and god knows what else? I can imagine this costing around $7,000 plus labor? My tuner/mechanic said if I got all the parts I need he would do the swap for around $600.

Any experience or thoughts on this will be greatly appreciated.
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Old 06-18-2015, 06:16 PM   #12
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ive never been in a dom 3 or 30r car, my buddy has a built sti with a 1.5 and i really like it. you will be at the limits of the tranny, thats for sure. my clutch was roasted after a year of e85 and almost 390 ft lbs

as for the trans, i would just 6 spd swap it. im done with my car for that reason, as much as i dont want to go bigger, im not laying out the money for the 6spd swap or a built motor at this point. im hoping the 17 sti has the FA and i'll trade up to that..

seen lots of cars with ppgs and still blowing **** up

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Old 06-18-2015, 08:22 PM   #13
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ive never been in a dom 3 or 30r car, my buddy has a built sti with a 1.5 and i really like it. you will be at the limits of the tranny, thats for sure. my clutch was roasted after a year of e85 and almost 390 ft lbs

as for the trans, i would just 6 spd swap it. im done with my car for that reason, as much as i dont want to go bigger, im not laying out the money for the 6spd swap or a built motor at this point. im hoping the 17 sti has the FA and i'll trade up to that..

seen lots of cars with ppgs and still blowing **** up

Yeah man I hear that I just already have so much invested into this car it would be foolish to try and trade or sell it. I have a little daily now to keep the miles down so I plan to keep this car for a while and just either swap or upgrade the tranny.

I'll get another one down the road when they have a solid engine platform that's tried and proven, whether it be the fa or not.

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Also I meant to ask, if your pushing 390ft lbs is that to the wheels? What are you pushing for WHP? I'd imagine like 375?

Does your 5mt feel very notchy? And does third gear in rare occasion in the cold weather sort of bite/barely grind for a millisecond? Mine does sometimes in the cold. Hopefully better fluid will get rid of that.

I'm hoping my stock clutch lasts a little while with 330WTQ and 300WHP, what do you think? I don't do clutch dumps or launches or power shifting or anything. But on occasion sometimes when going really slow or WOT pulls I'll just barely miss the timing and will engage the clutch a bit to fast giving the car just a slight jerk/bounce, obviously much much less than a full out clutch dump.
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Old 06-18-2015, 10:04 PM   #14
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you can part out all your mods and put it to stock, thats my plan at least. a friend of mine did it to his wrx and got back a decent chuck of change.

my car on the dyno did 360 whp/386tq at 20 psi on e85. consertative tune, as i didnt want to break anything. the clutch crapped out, went with a southbend stage 3 daily

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Yeah man I hear that I just already have so much invested into this car it would be foolish to try and trade or sell it. I have a little daily now to keep the miles down so I plan to keep this car for a while and just either swap or upgrade the tranny.

i have subaru extra s in the trans and rear diff, trans seems fine. my clutch was fine on pump gas 320/333 so you should be ok as well. the tq of the e85 is what did me in..

I'll get another one down the road when they have a solid engine platform that's tried and proven, whether it be the fa or not.

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Also I meant to ask, if your pushing 390ft lbs is that to the wheels? What are you pushing for WHP? I'd imagine like 375?

Does your 5mt feel very notchy? And does third gear in rare occasion in the cold weather sort of bite/barely grind for a millisecond? Mine does sometimes in the cold. Hopefully better fluid will get rid of that.

I'm hoping my stock clutch lasts a little while with 330WTQ and 300WHP, what do you think? I don't do clutch dumps or launches or power shifting or anything. But on occasion sometimes when going really slow or WOT pulls I'll just barely miss the timing and will engage the clutch a bit to fast giving the car just a slight jerk/bounce, obviously much much less than a full out clutch dump.
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you can part out all your mods and put it to stock, thats my plan at least. a friend of mine did it to his wrx and got back a decent chuck of change.

my car on the dyno did 360 whp/386tq at 20 psi on e85. consertative tune, as i didnt want to break anything. the clutch crapped out, went with a southbend stage 3 daily

i have subaru extra s in the trans and rear diff, trans seems fine. my clutch was fine on pump gas 320/333 so you should be ok as well. the tq of the e85 is what did me in..

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Yeah man I hear that I just already have so much invested into this car it would be foolish to try and trade or sell it. I have a little daily now to keep the miles down so I plan to keep this car for a while and just either swap or upgrade the tranny.


I'll get another one down the road when they have a solid engine platform that's tried and proven, whether it be the fa or not.

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Also I meant to ask, if your pushing 390ft lbs is that to the wheels? What are you pushing for WHP? I'd imagine like 375?

Does your 5mt feel very notchy? And does third gear in rare occasion in the cold weather sort of bite/barely grind for a millisecond? Mine does sometimes in the cold. Hopefully better fluid will get rid of that.

I'm hoping my stock clutch lasts a little while with 330WTQ and 300WHP, what do you think? I don't do clutch dumps or launches or power shifting or anything. But on occasion sometimes when going really slow or WOT pulls I'll just barely miss the timing and will engage the clutch a bit to fast giving the car just a slight jerk/bounce, obviously much much less than a full out clutch dump.
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you can part out all your mods and put it to stock, thats my plan at least. a friend of mine did it to his wrx and got back a decent chuck of change.



my car on the dyno did 360 whp/386tq at 20 psi on e85. consertative tune, as i didnt want to break anything. the clutch crapped out, went with a southbend stage 3 daily



i have subaru extra s in the trans and rear diff, trans seems fine. my clutch was fine on pump gas 320/333 so you should be ok as well. the tq of the e85 is what did me in..

Maybe I'll consider that in the future but I just very recently did most of these mods and still have a lot of parts laying around to be installed soon.

I'll definitely end up keeping this car for a while. I just have to ask myself if I want to spend the money on a turbo and building the motor and swapping the tranny. If I can find a good deal on parts I have a solid connection for good/very experienced and fairly cheap labor.
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Old 06-19-2015, 01:22 AM   #17
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Matt is a great dude, he tuned my car as well. Your build is very nice so far, you should post up a couple pics of the car!
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Matt is a great dude, he tuned my car as well. Your build is very nice so far, you should post up a couple pics of the car!

Thanks bro! I will post some pics later or tomorrow. Also Matt is a great dude. He's extremely convenient to have as a tuner/mechanic.

Where do you live around?
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Replaced copper washers on turbo oil feed line after an oil leak. Cleaned engine bay and lower engine spotless and changed oil.

Lowered car. Still need to go a bit lower all around and put my lip kit on.





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Matt is a great dude, he tuned my car as well. Your build is very nice so far, you should post up a couple pics of the car!

Posted. Hope you like! More too come soon. Mostly supporting, maintenance, exterior, and interior mods for now. Will continue to build motor once I have some money saved up for the build, turbo, and a potential tranny swap.
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:59 AM   #23
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I'm from Plattsburgh NY, which is about 20min south of the Canadian border. So I had a pretty good drive to get to Matt, but it was worth it.
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Old 07-01-2015, 02:33 PM   #24
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I'm from Plattsburgh NY, which is about 20min south of the Canadian border. So I had a pretty good drive to get to Matt, but it was worth it.

Yeah man Matt is awesome! Glad to hear you had a good experience.


Another roller my buddy took:

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Old 07-22-2015, 12:25 PM   #25
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New plan for the next year or so. any opinions?

Motor:
- Buy complete built Cosworth block with forged crank shaft, etc = $3,300
- + labor and other supporting mods
- Koyo rad

Turbo:
- Dom 3 (stock location)
- Keep my GS TMIC for now
- Turbo inlet

Tranny: $7,000 installed
- New 07 STi tranny, shift assembly
- New Exedy clutch, lightweight flywheel, throwout
- Used R180 3.545
- New STi aluminum drive shaft
- Used STi rear axles (keep my hubs etc)
- Reuse my front axles and hubs
- Upgrade many driveline bushings etc
- DCCD controller
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