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Old 10-11-2012, 07:31 AM   #1
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Like the title says I'm pretty sure my engine is blow and needs a rebuild so I need help in know what parts I need and don't need. Keepin it simple but not taking short cuts just not look to hit big numbers just enough to have fun in the car and reliable still better than stock. Their was a glue type substance on my dip stick so I wanna start on the inside of the block and work my way out on the build
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:38 AM   #2
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I'm trying to keep the build around 3k on just parts I can do the labor myself I have all the tools and friends with more tools. I pretty much need help on what parts. A parts list would b great or a kit that I can just get and be happy. I saw en a fine rebuild kit online not sure of I need any other parts or what doesn't say take a look and tell me what u guys think about it http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/0...ankshafts.html
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:03 AM   #3
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No offense man, but if you have no idea what parts to get, then you have no business building a motor.

My advice is to just buy a built shortblock.
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:09 AM   #4
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^and also there is no one on here that can help you if you do not file out your profile info telling us make, model, and year. You said you arent looking to make big number but you need to have a goal number in mind so people can reccomend the right parts for that. GL
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:28 AM   #5
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Their was a glue type substance on my dip stick
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Old 10-11-2012, 12:30 PM   #6
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an assembled kit would most likely be the easiest. I can put together a quote on things you need/want. I can get 1000s of brands and offer very competitive pricing. Let me know.
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:25 PM   #7
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I know what parts to buy and how they work but I never go into building a motor for performance and I know I can't just buy anything I see just cause the site says it makes your car fast that's what I'm trying to say so I need to know what goes good with what part. I do know how to put together a motor back to stock but I don't wanna b stock that's why I ask for a simple parts list
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:28 PM   #8
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Oh and my car is a 05 sti. What did u guys think of the link I posted?? Was that a decent build?? Would I need a lot more other parts or else my engine will run like crap?? Power numbers I woul b happy just gaining an extra 100 hp if I was in the 300-350s I'd b happy as long as it was still drivable everyday even long road trips and no race gas
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:38 PM   #9
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I know what parts to buy and how they work but I never go into building a motor for performance and I know I can't just buy anything I see just cause the site says it makes your car fast that's what I'm trying to say so I need to know what goes good with what part. I do know how to put together a motor back to stock but I don't wanna b stock that's why I ask for a simple parts list
the bolded section should make you nervous.

if you've never built a motor before, you can VERY easily **** things up.

you know even dust particles can score cylinder walls/pistons/rings right?
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Old 10-11-2012, 03:15 PM   #10
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http://www.rallispec.com/prod_block.HTML
Check these guys out. You can get a short block professionally built for about what you wanna pay.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:36 PM   #11
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Ok guys I've built motors but just to stock I know the procedures that come with building a motor TO STOCK if I wanted to do that I would and would ask for much help since all I need to do is buy all new factory parts after I have the block checked out. But If I'm rebuilding I might as well get some more power out of it. I've been to uti passed it been working in the field for about 7 years but all I do is replace parts to have them work back to factory standards. Just would like to know what parts work best with other parts
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Old 10-11-2012, 06:04 PM   #12
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Ok guys I've built motors but just to stock I know the procedures that come with building a motor TO STOCK if I wanted to do that I would and would ask for much help since all I need to do is buy all new factory parts after I have the block checked out. But If I'm rebuilding I might as well get some more power out of it. I've been to uti passed it been working in the field for about 7 years but all I do is replace parts to have them work back to factory standards. Just would like to know what parts work best with other parts
if youve done internal motor work, this really isn't that different, except make sure its done in a VERY clean room.

as to the bolded part - you should call your local tuner and see what they recommend, ultimately they are going to be the ones making sure it runs correctly.
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Old 10-11-2012, 06:20 PM   #13
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Slow it down. If you want to keep your motor running past break in, go for a "pre" built short block shipped to you, or have a shop do it.

As far as "what parts to go with what parts," you'll need to clarify a lot. Most of your posts say you want to build a motor that's not stock, but don't want a performance motor, but want good parts. Time to research and talk to some local shops.

First thing you NEED to do, is verify your motor is too far gone to fix. You only said you THINK it's blown. If you see a "glue like substance" on the dipstick, I'm guessing you have a blown head gasket.
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:26 PM   #14
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Yeah I do want a performance motor built but theirs people who replace everything drop 10k in a build on just engine parts and heads but I just want like a mild build that's what I mean reliable but powerful not looking to break records or hit 10s on the track just an overall fun car to drive more fun than it was stock. I searched on here but only saw a few builds that we're way out of my league
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:29 PM   #15
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http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/a...build-kit.html

Found this online looks good to me but don't know very much about the bra and how it performs. Also doesn't say anything on what else I would need to do if it can just go with stock heads or absolutely needs top end work for this kit to make power and then theirs also fuel delivery, turbo kit will the stock parts be enough or also need to be changed
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Once again, lets slow it down.

Bra? Not to sound like an ass, but you NEED to use proper English. The main reason this thread isn't getting a lot of help is all your posts are one mangled box of English. Slow down and type.

You also need to find out WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR MOTOR before jumping into a rebuild. The sludge you mentioned almost seems like a simple head gasket issue, which means no need to do a full rebuild. You also really won't be able to tell what you NEED for the rebuild until you get in there.

Essentially all you linked was a simple rebuild kit with forged pistons and new pins and bearings. You'd need a good majority of a stock gasket kit anyways to do the job, which is included here. The only reason you would need top end work done is if something is broke OR you are going for a huge upgrade. Not everything is destroyed because you have some sludge on the stick. In my rebuild for cracked ringlands, I resued my entire top end. There is really not a need to upgrade it. Fuel delivery is based on your GOALS for the car, and what turbo you will have. Turbo would obviously stay the same unless you want to go bigger. Not that they only claim it's good for 700 hp, not that it will make that.

A great way to go, if you're dead set on replacing/rebuild is get a "pre built" block. They ship it to you with anything from forged pistons, rods, bearings etc of your choice. You get the blocked delivered to you, ready to bolt your top end in.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:03 AM   #17
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Also look into the fact that a built block might not last as long as a stocker. I guess it could be a common misconception.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:11 AM   #18
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Listen to Hinshaw. NOBODY can give you a list of parts until you break down your engine and find out exactly what needs to be replaced.

The necessary parts for a rebuild could range anywhere from a new pair of headgaskets to a complete longblock. So until you break down your engine and figure out what has been damaged, nobody can tell you a thing.
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Old 10-12-2012, 04:32 PM   #19
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Thanks for the info guys, I will be tearing apart the engine to find out why this happend but I know if I have the heads off and the block is right their I'm very tempted to just build it since I do have a spare car and don't need this to be on the road

What you guys are saying about building the engine, is that if I build the block to be a bit stronger to take the beating I give it every now and then, I can still use my stock head setup ie. cams,valves,springs, retainers. Also the turbo does not really need to be replaced unless obviously the turbo itself is going out.

I know right off the bat I have to replace head gasket and obviously timing belt/pulleys/tensioners water pump all that. But when it comes to head gasket I their a stronger one that is less likely to go out?? One that will make up for the new clearances that the machine shop will take off when they resurface the head??

Back to the link of that kit I posted I know it's rated to 700 or what not but if I do use parts like that would I be fine if I use that setup with stock everything else ie head/turbo/fuel system??
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Old 10-12-2012, 04:46 PM   #20
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Or even the prebuilt performance blocks that you guys are telling me about, will those be fine with everything else stock??

Obviously I would do intake, up pipe ,down pipe cat back exhaust, the Cobb access port also
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I would just get a new block and some pistons and that will run you around 3k with install from a professional shop.

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Old 10-13-2012, 11:42 AM   #22
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I know you said your not looking for big power gains but you may want to upgrade the turbo to at least a more efficient one that will get you to 350 easier. But there is noo need to build a block for near stock power levels. You can get something like this http://www.subarupartslive.com/parts...E&group=ENGINE and have some extra cash for other mods. The stock internals can handle quite a bit as long as you have a good tune.
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