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Old 12-01-2012, 06:08 PM   #51
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Every dealership in the area confirms that 370 is what you get from now on when you order 430 or 330.

I checked with them, they ordered it straight from SUBARU so Subaru decided to try to show me an old crank. It's such a mess.
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:54 PM   #52
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It is a heck of a mess, believe me. Some day it will get straightned out, but it is going to take a while.

FWIW, we have plenty of 330's in stock, and they are all heat treated.
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Old 12-02-2012, 04:07 PM   #53
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Not sure if this was previously asked, but was heat treating ever offered on the newer 2.0L's?

For guys building all the destroked 2.5's around today you'd think they would benefit greatly from the added protection.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:45 PM   #54
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I do gas nitrided batches for my 75mm cranks. They still cost far less than any prices I'd found for ordering the EJ207 cranks.
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:26 AM   #55
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Every dealership in the area confirms that 370 is what you get from now on when you order 430 or 330.

I checked with them, they ordered it straight from SUBARU so Subaru decided to try to show me an old crank. It's such a mess.
may have been a temporary issue, i just got my 330 crank in from Subaru yesterday(ordered last week).

I work at a dealer and had my parts guy check and there are over 100 of the 330 cranks available in the warehouses right now, so shouldn't be anymore issues. And also no supersessions to different numbers
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:19 PM   #56
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The -330 crank you just received, what type of treatment was used on it? I need to order a crank for a customer and I want to make sure I am ordering the one they want. it's easiest to ask here before calling the warehouse because it takes a while to get part inspections completed.


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Old 12-17-2012, 01:35 PM   #57
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give me a minute to get of my laptop and i can post the pics i took of it. (i already assembled the block, so can't get any closer photos now)
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:38 PM   #58
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My 12200AA330 crank

it is heat-treated, no nitride



when I was trying to decide which crank to buy I saw that the AA400/AA430 are no longer available and supercede to this, so i guess no more nitride cranks are coming from subaru
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:53 PM   #59
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Thank you for taking the time to post that, I appreciate it very much!
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Old 12-17-2012, 04:33 PM   #60
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^^^Jackie, you really are one of the best parts counter people...ever! I'm lucky that I have Brad (orf parts dude) down in here in VB.
I think the MAIC is just spoiled

For those curious in here, I have a feeler thread for nitrided OEM cranks. Seeing if there's support for a group buy.
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:00 AM   #61
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Thank you! I do not get a ton of orders for cranks but usually people are looking for the nitrided version.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:09 PM   #62
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Thank you! I do not get a ton of orders for cranks but usually people are looking for the nitrided version.
Yeah, I have a feeler that they are going to be phased out. If in the future, you can't find them, shoot me a PM on the 3MI Racing acct. Actually might give you a call tomorrow for some crank talk.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:17 PM   #63
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^ I believe they already have been phased out from Subaru. On RPM the 12200AA400 has 0 available, supercedes to 12200AA430 which also has 0 available, that number supercedes again to 12200AA330 which is the new heat treated version.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:43 PM   #64
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So I'm still confused, is there any consensus on which OEM crank to put in a new EJ257 build?
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:18 AM   #65
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Agreed with carnz, all of the numbers that have been previously listed for nitrided cranks have no availability and superceed to the heat treated crank.

Oh and hello to you neighbor!
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:40 AM   #66
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I have been ordering 330's and receiving 330's. I have been getting this version crank since 2010, I haven't been building with anything else. I had issues with the nitrided crank in the past, hence the switch.

Order as recent as last Tuesday has shown up 330 and not 370.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:54 AM   #67
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Yea, 330's are still rocking. 130 of them in NJ. 8 at my local guy I buy from.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:57 AM   #68
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So I'm still confused, is there any consensus on which OEM crank to put in a new EJ257 build?
12200AA330
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:37 AM   #69
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Ok, I think the parts guy at my local Subaru dealer misspoke, he told me that the 370 was the new crank I'd be getting. I'm ordering a shortblock on Friday so I'm going to verify in person that I'll be getting a 330 and no a 370.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:45 AM   #70
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You buying a built shortblock, or a stock shortblock?
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:13 PM   #71
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If he is telling you that he's getting the 370's he needs to delete the supercession in his system as it has already been corrected through Subaru's system. I had to get my boss to correct it yesterday before ordering one for a customer. It superceeded in my parts system but no longer superceeds in Subaru's system.

A shortblock will include the crank, you may want to verify which crank is included before ordering. He should be able to call Subaru's help line to determine that.
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:18 PM   #72
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I should have clarified - I'm just ordering empty EJ257 case halves, so no crank will be included. I'm putting forged rods and pistons in. While I'm there I'll mention the possible error and see what they say. Either way I'll verify that they get me the 330 crank. I wouldn't doubt that this dealer would have an out of date system, I've had issues with their parts department before. It's actually part of a larger Ford dealership, and I must say there doesn't seem to be many Subaru guys there.

I want to order at my local dealer because I can get a substantial discount on large orders.
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:39 PM   #73
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Well, I think I got my answer as to why I was going to call Jackie. I was going to ask how many '370's were left in the system, the early 79mm stroke cranks. I ask as I'm putting together a group buy on the custom nitrided cranks and was going to include 79mm stroke cranks.

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Old 12-19-2012, 02:44 PM   #74
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So the 400 is the non-nitraded non-heat treated crank?
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:10 PM   #75
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FWIW, all of the Subaru shortblocks that have been built since 2009 all come with the surface hardened cranks. And that is for both the early AC030 and late AC050 blocks.

As far as the non-treated cranks, they are still readily available as mentioned above. [EDIT] Sorry, the 400 was the first iteration of the nitride treated crank, that went to the 430, which went to the 330. The same 330 which is now heat treated instead of nitride treated. the 370 has always been available, and it not surface treated at all.[/edit]

And the 400's have not been available for a long time now.

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