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Old 08-21-2012, 10:22 PM   #1
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hey all,
I'm stephen, with TXIC

got an 08 stage 2 wrx with an STi trans swap,
moving from san antonio to phoenix on the 25th.

Looking to find a good local tuner for a reliable 91 octane tune and some good autocross clubs to have some fun with.

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Old 08-21-2012, 10:41 PM   #2
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I also just moved here from Texas (Austin).

I went over to Goodspeed Performance up in Scottsdale to get a 91 and E85 tune done. Joe worked through some issues with my car and was able to get me a couple good tunes and a lot of new parts installed as well. I'd recommend going there.

I also just joined NASAAZ for some HPDE's starting this week. Should be fun, and it looks like a good orginization for some track time.

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Old 08-21-2012, 10:49 PM   #3
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Personally wouldnt go to Goodspeed. Speaking about TX i was actually just in Corpis Cristi (spell check) couple wks back love TX bro. welcome to ridiculous heat.
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:11 PM   #4
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Thanks i'll check them out. are they a cobb pro tuner?
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:13 PM   #5
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Thanks i'll check them out. are they a cobb pro tuner?

Yes they are a Cobb pro tuner. Clark Turner is their tuner.
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:12 AM   #6
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Personally wouldnt go to Goodspeed. Speaking about TX i was actually just in Corpis Cristi (spell check) couple wks back love TX bro. welcome to ridiculous heat.
Why not?
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:22 AM   #7
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Why not?
Doesnt really call my attention. Plus heard bad cases but heard good ones as well. Plus i like a road tune, not really looking for numbers on a dyno. Personally never dealt with the place but wouldnt go there.
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:34 AM   #8
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You have a few different options as far as shops.

Goodspeed is personally my pick when it comes to shops. But Dynocomp and FAT are two other good options out here.

And if you are looking for a road tune Mark "Brocksdad" or Clark over at Goodspeed are two great tuners. However, I'm not sure if Clark does road tunes anymore. Someone else might chime in on this one.

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Old 08-22-2012, 02:23 AM   #9
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^^ This guy knows wassup.

A couple years ago I had my 08 wrx tuned by Clark Turner. I never had a problem with my tune, and it pulled pretty damn hard for just stage 2.

Mark aka Brocksdad is an excellent tuner as well, and he actually makes it out to the weekly meets I personally have never had a tune done by him, but I know several people who are MORE than satisfied with his tunes.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:59 AM   #10
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Plus i like a road tune, not really looking for numbers on a dyno.
Road tunes are mediocre at best. They never allow the tuner to fully map the entire range of the car. for a lightly modified car it can be sufficient, but what. You go out, try and find a safe enough place to floor it and what, tune a couple pulls you do on the street? when your just cruising the ecu is in closed loop so then you would just be Tuning the fuel trims a tiny bit. On a dyno they can hold it at certain load points to fine tune everything. Ya it costs more but you get what you pay for. Its not just numbers on a dyno, its a fine tuned ecu. Its the safety of your car.

Btw, my car has hours and hours of road tuning but every time we go out to tune, we always wish we were on a dyno
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:48 PM   #11
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Road tunes are mediocre at best. They never allow the tuner to fully map the entire range of the car. for a lightly modified car it can be sufficient, but what. You go out, try and find a safe enough place to floor it and what, tune a couple pulls you do on the street? when your just cruising the ecu is in closed loop so then you would just be Tuning the fuel trims a tiny bit. On a dyno they can hold it at certain load points to fine tune everything. Ya it costs more but you get what you pay for. Its not just numbers on a dyno, its a fine tuned ecu. Its the safety of your car.

Btw, my car has hours and hours of road tuning but every time we go out to tune, we always wish we were on a dyno
Im not looking for crazy power and i dont mind the price. but the road allows for ACTUAL driving conditions. Really im opposed to dyno becuase when will you be running an AZ car with a huge fan in front of you in an A/C controlled building w/low humidity and when get on the street will you find a stretch far enough to push your car to the 500+ max hp. My tune is efficient for what i use my car DD. if it was a track car different story. To me dyno results only good if your tracking your car OR driving in a building with a controlled enviornment/surroundings BOTH of which i do neither.
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Old 08-22-2012, 02:33 PM   #12
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For a 91 tune I would choose Goodspeed, FAT, or brocksdad.

I got a 91 tune at Goodspeed and even though the motor was weak, it ran reliably/strong for the remainder of the time I owned it and the new owner even beat on it at the track and it held up beautifully. Joe, Jon and Mason are all great guys.

Lately I've been going to FAT for work as they are truly some Subaru enthusiasts and will do whatever it takes to make the customer happy.

Mark (brocksdad) is an excellent resource for tuning.

There's a few other shops too that I don't have any experience with such as Wingz Performance, Dynocomp, and Vivid Racing, but I've heard quite a few negative things about Dynocomp and Vivid that have kept me from going to them. Vivid usually has pretty competitive pricing but their rude customer service over the phone kept me from going there.

There's also a guy who I've been wanting to get tuned by, his name is LukeSkyWRX on AZAWD and has got some pretty brilliant tuning techniques, but he's located all the way in Tucson.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:50 PM   #13
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thanks for the advice gentlemen. I appreciate it.
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:16 PM   #14
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are you guys moving from texas because of work or school?

I had thought texas was doing pretty well job wise.
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:55 PM   #15
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For work. got a job opportunity I couldn't pass up. Also a lot of jobs in my field have dried up for what I do in particular with telecommunications around san antonio.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:07 PM   #16
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I had a good job in Texas... got a better offer in AZ though. That and I really hated living in Texas.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:15 PM   #17
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I had a good job in Texas... got a better offer in AZ though. That and I really hated living in Texas.
I didn't mind living in texas so much, the people are friendly and it's close to south padre. I can't stand the roads or the humidity.

There's a lot more to do it looks like in az. looking forward to living there.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:55 PM   #18
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I didn't mind living in texas so much, the people are friendly and it's close to south padre. I can't stand the roads or the humidity.

There's a lot more to do it looks like in az. looking forward to living there.

Yes, there is a lot to do here, its a great place to live. Just have to deal with a couple months of heat, which is almost finished.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:57 PM   #19
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Yes, there is a lot to do here, its a great place to live. Just have to deal with a couple months of heat, which is almost finished.
well, we may not be in hell, but we share the same thermostat. i'm pretty sure i'll enjoy the low humidity and the fun stuff to do. I was part of a couple of great autocross clubs down here in san antonio and I'd like to do some more cone killing in phoenix.
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:22 AM   #20
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I go to Dynocomp. Good prices, and Rich (the owner/tuner) kindly adjusts my map on the dyno if I have concerns. Good luck!
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:07 AM   #21
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Be careful in where you go. I thought I had my car in good trusting hands. Its nice to have spent 40K+ in upgrades and drive the car 4 times, 12 comebacks in three years. Then get blown off because I do not have a right to be pissed off.
My car is still parked 4 months later. I guess the economy is doing that good now.
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Old 08-23-2012, 09:52 AM   #22
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Be careful in where you go. I thought I had my car in good trusting hands. Its nice to have spent 40K+ in upgrades and drive the car 4 times, 12 comebacks in three years. Then get blown off because I do not have a right to be pissed off.
My car is still parked 4 months later. I guess the economy is doing that good now.
Well where did you go?
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:25 AM   #23
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Wow that's a horror story, I have a link plus standalone that has been road tuned. I had john at outfront motorsports "road tune" it. Unfortunately the freeway is not a good place to do a road tune. He got my tune pretty decent but when I started climbing hills and getting in higher elevation I ended up adding 2 more fuel rows as more boost became available. I also use it in closed loop lambda which tunes itself. I am still road tuning it almost everyday. Ive had the ecm for about 6 years and I still don't have a perfect tune. Its hard to get more than a few seconds to tune at WOT without severly breaking the speed limit. A long hill is good but the next hill might be steeper and will use different rows and columns to get there. A dyno tune is just easier to put the car under an exact/repeatable load. Of course I can't speak, I've never put it on a dyno. I just know what a PITA road tuning can
be, especially by yourself. Most of the road tuning that I need to do happens under part throttle because WOT is easy and already tuned. Tuning and driving is almost as bad as texting and driving but if you have some kind of data logger it would make it easier.
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