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Old 09-11-2012, 08:58 PM   #326
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Ideally full frame, but those options are extremely limited. For the price, I might as well rebuild my block.

The 4i isn't really anything to talk about.
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Old 09-11-2012, 09:03 PM   #327
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I guess it depends how far you want to go with it. What lenses do you have?
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:32 PM   #328
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The 5D is sooooo much noisier than the 7D, but I always will pick up the 5D unless I absolutely need the AF speed of the 7D. Noise is one of the last things I care about. I'm sure other people will not agree though.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:38 PM   #329
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I'm more worried about building up my lens arsenal before a body upgrade. The T2i gets noisy at 800+. I would like to go full frame eventually though.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:40 PM   #330
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I have most of the kit lenses:

17-40mm L USM f/4
28-135mm IS USM f/3.5-5.6
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I really need to learn how to edit more effectively though. I know I can get adequate lighting and angles, but it's my editing that usually pushes things too far. It's trying to find that line between cartoon and reality that's hard for me lol
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:41 PM   #331
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Here is another edit and a different crop. I like this one better. Thoughts?


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Old 09-12-2012, 12:56 AM   #332
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Can't wait to post some of my stuff in this thread!!
Great photos guys!
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:41 AM   #333
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Here is another edit and a different crop. I like this one better. Thoughts?

Personally it looks a bit over saturated, but that could just be the monitor I'm looking on. Maybe bring down the saturation on the red just a tad?
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:47 AM   #334
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Oooh, another photography thread.




Raaaawr by i eaт sтars, on Flickr
seriously, there are a lot of pics that stand out and remain my favorite in this forum, and this one is one of them. went as far as going to your flickr and getting it in my subaru pics folder because i love it so much. great looking pics keep, it never disappoints!
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so clean
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:33 AM   #336
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I'm more worried about building up my lens arsenal before a body upgrade. The T2i gets noisy at 800+. I would like to go full frame eventually though.
Me too. My 7D is more than enough for me at this point, even though I too would like to go full frame eventually. Lenses are definitely a better investment

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Personally it looks a bit over saturated, but that could just be the monitor I'm looking on. Maybe bring down the saturation on the red just a tad?
I agree.
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:10 AM   #337
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I can't justify a 5D as I really don't shoot that much, but I can't justify a 7D as it really isn't an upgrade. I might just trade up to a t2i one day for the 3 extra MP haha.
I'd strongly disagree that the 7D isn't an upgrade. The 7D has tons of upgrades, but they may not be relevant to you.
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:30 AM   #338
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What's the best "entry level" full frame that Canon makes?
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:31 AM   #339
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The 5D lol. I believe the older 1D's are as well, it's also a cheaper alternative.
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I won't be going that route anytime soon.
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The cheapest current full frame camera from Canon is the 5D Mark III @ $3500.

The original 5D can be had for $600-700 used. It will be much, much noisier than your Rebel.
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but I can't justify a 7D as it really isn't an upgrade. I might just trade up to a t2i one day for the 3 extra MP haha.
7D isnt an upgrade, but T2i is?

7D is a spectacular camera.
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:22 AM   #343
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The cheapest current full frame camera from Canon is the 5D Mark III @ $3500.

The original 5D can be had for $600-700 used. It will be much, much noisier than your Rebel.
5D MkII is a deal and a half at $1500-1800
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:50 AM   #344
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7D isnt an upgrade, but T2i is?

7D is a spectacular camera.

Is there a substantial difference between the two?

And what's wromg with the T2i?!?!
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:54 AM   #345
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The t2i is an upgrade for me because between buying and selling I'd be spending around 100-200 for 3 MP. The 7D is substantially more money. If I ever spend over 1k for a camera I'm going 5D.
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Nothing wrong with the T2i. I still keep a Rebel XT in my arsenal. (3 generations behind the T2i)

The 7D is can be had for Over/Under $1000. Megapickles means very little nowadays. The 7D may be more money, but it is MUCH more camera. In many ways, it's better than the 5DII.

For the same price, 7D>5D all day long unless youre doing strictly studio work. And even then, I'd still take a 7D.

Especially going T1i to T2i, you gain next to nothing. 3MP in the same size sensor. The T2i's main advantages are in the video department.
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Old 09-12-2012, 11:12 AM   #347
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Once you get out of the Rebel line you'll wonder how you ever made do. Having two screens and getting away from a bunch of little buttons on the back is a huge, huge change. If you think Megapixels are a reason to upgrade, then I think you need to step back and take a look at what you're actually using the photos for.

If you're shooting static car photos the camera really doesn't matter at all, honestly. Especially if your main use if online or prints smaller than a poster. AF speed doesn't matter, noise really doesn't matter (because you can shoot at ISO100 with a tripod for these types of car shoots), and MP don't matter either unless you want huge prints.

If I had a T1i, T2i, T3i, T4i, 7D and 5D in front of me, I would choose the 5D every time. The sensor size is pretty much the only thing that really does matter on shots like this. It's probably the cheapest of those, has the slowest AF, and also has the least Megapixels. It's still a far superior camera. The only thing I would consider ahead of a 5D is one of the newer 5D's or a full frame 1D.

Now for action/journalistic photography I would pick up the 7D over a Rebel any day of the week. It's not the MP that matter here, it's the lightning fast focus, controls that are actually usable for changing settings on the fly, much higher frame rate, and more rugged build. It is 100% completely worth the increase in price over a Rebel if you are going to use it to its full extent. But if you're going to stick it on a tripod and take a photo of a car in a parking lot, there really isn't any reason to get a 7D (or any other crop body) over something like a T1i.

I do 100% agree that you should invest in glass far before your body.
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Maybe I will look into the 7D down the road. I have no interest in using my camera for video so those advantages don't appeal to me. There is no way my wife will let me buy a new body right now, she would kill me.
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Old 09-12-2012, 11:17 AM   #349
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Nothing wrong with the T2i. I still keep a Rebel XT in my arsenal. (3 generations behind the T2i)

The 7D is can be had for Over/Under $1000. Megapickles means very little nowadays. The 7D may be more money, but it is MUCH more camera. In many ways, it's better than the 5DII.

For the same price, 7D>5D all day long unless youre doing strictly studio work. And even then, I'd still take a 7D.

Especially going T1i to T2i, you gain next to nothing. 3MP in the same size sensor. The T2i's main advantages are in the video department.
Good points. The 7D vs. 5D are really two completely different beasts. The 7D is an incredible value for anything fast paced. The 5D and 5D mkII are great values for their strengths as well. The 5D gets you into the beautiful full frame look at a price that's cheaper than a half decade old Rebel. It's really amazing in that regard. The 5D mkII goes above that with full frame, 1080p video and much better high ISO.

I think all three of these camera's have their place in the right situation and they all represent a huge value for what they are. When I shoot a wedding or portrait session I will always pick up the 5D over the 7D. Sure, the AF speed lacks and the high ISO noise is very noticeable, but the photos just look that much better on full frame. I'd love to swap my 5D's for 5D mkII's, and I probably will sometime soon. They do everything the 5D's do, but better. When I'm shooting sports I would never, ever use a 5D, it's always the 7D. It's all about speed for those.
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Old 09-12-2012, 11:18 AM   #350
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Maybe I will look into the 7D down the road. I have no interest in using my camera for video so those advantages don't appeal to me. There is no way my wife will let me buy a new body right now, she would kill me.
You don't need a new body. IMO, you should definitely pile up a couple "L" lenses before getting a new body.
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