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Old 09-16-2012, 11:23 PM   #551
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again, not all need to be edited...sometimes you can get it right the first time...

Both unedited.

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Old 09-16-2012, 11:47 PM   #552
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Damn, that A4 is SLAMMED. Some good pics there, but I do feel like they are a bit overexposed? Maybe if you would have at least done some highlight/white reduction in your PP they would give you a little more detail.

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Old 09-17-2012, 12:14 AM   #553
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again, not all need to be edited...sometimes you can get it right the first time...

Both unedited.

On these you had overcast lighting and you had your in-camera JPEG settings configured to give you a reasonably good image. Keep in mind that these are not "unprocessed" completely, they have all the in-camera JPEG processing applied to them. The exposure is pretty close, but I would say a little underexposed. Sharpness looks good, but that's not something you would really "fix" in post processing anyways.

For these examples you really had the ideal conditions for getting a nice in-camera shot. They turned out good, but I think they're a little flat. I think they could be better with a little tweaking. I tried playing with the JPEG's you posted. They're obviously not full resolution (or RAW files), so I'm pretty limited, but a couple minutes in Photoshop and I think they "pop" quite a bit more. I just played with curves, contrast, and some sharpening. Nothing very complicated or time consuming. Maybe these edits aren't your style, but I do think a little bit of work on the photos can help them stand out a little more in nearly all cases.





The other thing to keep in mind is that you had the ideal conditions and you had your settings well matched for the shot. If you have more challenging light or if you're working in a fast paced environment and you do happen to take a shot with slightly off camera settings, then a little RAW adjustment and/or other Photoshop tweaks can make a huge, huge difference and often can completely save a shot.

IMO, the ONLY reason to shoot JPEG is if you are on time restrictions like a National-level press event. JPEG's are smaller and they can be off to the presses more quickly. For just about any other use RAW files will be far superior. Shooting JPEG is often simply due to lack of experience or simply laziness (or sometimes being too cheap to buy more memory). But if you truly aren't going to do any RAW edits (ever), then JPEG will save you time and space. Just be aware that (if you're a professional) it will probably come back to bite you eventually.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:06 AM   #554
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For those who were talking about entry level full frame, Canon just announced an entry level full frame 6D slated for a December release. Priced at $2,100 for body only. So far it looks ok, but no real tests have been done. People seem to be complaining already about only 11 AF points.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:41 AM   #555
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For those who were talking about entry level full frame, Canon just announced an entry level full frame 6D slated for a December release. Priced at $2,100 for body only. So far it looks ok, but no real tests have been done. People seem to be complaining already about only 11 AF points.
I saw that. It looks like a very interesting option. Right now I'm trying to figure out if it's worth spending a few hundred more on that vs. the 5D MkII. Right now it doesn't seem like it.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:44 AM   #556
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:46 AM   #557
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Sorry stupid phone. I'm interested in that as well. I was looking at the 7D anyway which is 1600. I would like to see how well it performs for the price
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:13 AM   #558
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again, not all need to be edited...sometimes you can get it right the first time...

Both unedited.

I agree with the points xluben made. The photo I was reffereing to was a mid day sun shot which needs all the help it can get in that situation compared to shots with good lighting, better equipment and more experience.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:24 AM   #559
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Loving this thread thus far. Looking forward to the learning experience!
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:30 AM   #560
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SONY A57 (okay, it's an SLT, not an SLR, but I hope I still get to play!), 18-55mm zoom (kit), edited with GIMP.



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Old 09-17-2012, 12:33 PM   #561
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I was really trying to capture what it felt like outside...dark and gray. It has been doing nothing but drizzling all morning long. I am ready for fall, sunrise shoots. All of this dark weather is depressing!

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Old 09-17-2012, 12:46 PM   #562
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Fall is coming quickly here in NY, it's going to be great. I can't wait to go down to Georgia this year though, I love it down there!
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:38 PM   #563
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On these you had overcast lighting and you had your in-camera JPEG settings configured to give you a reasonably good image. Keep in mind that these are not "unprocessed" completely, they have all the in-camera JPEG processing applied to them. The exposure is pretty close, but I would say a little underexposed. Sharpness looks good, but that's not something you would really "fix" in post processing anyways.

For these examples you really had the ideal conditions for getting a nice in-camera shot. They turned out good, but I think they're a little flat. I think they could be better with a little tweaking. I tried playing with the JPEG's you posted. They're obviously not full resolution (or RAW files), so I'm pretty limited, but a couple minutes in Photoshop and I think they "pop" quite a bit more. I just played with curves, contrast, and some sharpening. Nothing very complicated or time consuming. Maybe these edits aren't your style, but I do think a little bit of work on the photos can help them stand out a little more in nearly all cases.





The other thing to keep in mind is that you had the ideal conditions and you had your settings well matched for the shot. If you have more challenging light or if you're working in a fast paced environment and you do happen to take a shot with slightly off camera settings, then a little RAW adjustment and/or other Photoshop tweaks can make a huge, huge difference and often can completely save a shot.

IMO, the ONLY reason to shoot JPEG is if you are on time restrictions like a National-level press event. JPEG's are smaller and they can be off to the presses more quickly. For just about any other use RAW files will be far superior. Shooting JPEG is often simply due to lack of experience or simply laziness (or sometimes being too cheap to buy more memory). But if you truly aren't going to do any RAW edits (ever), then JPEG will save you time and space. Just be aware that (if you're a professional) it will probably come back to bite you eventually.
yea i know, im just showing the simple fact that you dont need photoshop to adjust every picture...i love shooting overcast because when i shoot big events its easier on my end. i shoot JPEG for almost all my track events because of the ease of use afterwards, and my clients dont seem to mind. so thats fine w me. Trust me its not for a lack of space, i shoot two 64gig cards in my camera. Most of my photog friends who get paid big bucks by major teams and magazines shoot in JPEG aswell...doesnt always need to be RAW.
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:39 PM   #564
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Damn, that A4 is SLAMMED. Some good pics there, but I do feel like they are a bit overexposed? Maybe if you would have at least done some highlight/white reduction in your PP they would give you a little more detail.

I'm in love with 07legacy's pics, they are looking great!
thank you!
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:19 AM   #565
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I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on a Nikkor 80-200mm f/4.5n ai lens just for kicks. Can't beat a 85 dollar lens from 1980's that made it into the top 10 sharpest lenses! (according to kenrockwell.com)
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:49 AM   #566
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:53 AM   #567
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:29 AM   #568
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I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on a Nikkor 80-200mm f/4.5n ai lens just for kicks. Can't beat a 85 dollar lens from 1980's that made it into the top 10 sharpest lenses! (according to kenrockwell.com)

Can't go wrong with that. That's the reason I bought my 50mm f/1.8 and I LOVE that thens. I don't use it for automotive stuff but it's a fun portrait lens. and it's pretty sharp.
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50 1.8 is absolutely incredible
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^^^^ this!
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Yep! I'm finding that I like my 85mm f/1.8 even more! It's just hard to use inside on a crop body. I use it to take pictures of the kids outside and it's amazing. Even sharper than the 50
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How would the 35mm compare to them in your opinion? My younger brother has one and its pretty good but I almost wanna say its just as sharp as my 18-55.
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:55 AM   #573
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Some Nikon body, Some Nikon lens. Shot by a friend hanging out of a car.

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Old 09-18-2012, 11:03 AM   #574
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How would the 35mm compare to them in your opinion? My younger brother has one and its pretty good but I almost wanna say its just as sharp as my 18-55.
My sister uses it on her Nikon. I'm not sure what make the lens is but she seems to like it and it gives you a ton of room to work with.
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Some Nikon body, Some Nikon lens. Shot by a friend hanging out of a car.
Some Beautiful picture!

Inkman I'll need to borrow his and play around with it.
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