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Old 10-18-2012, 11:13 PM   #901
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Yeah that's not even really worth getting. I have Bogen 3021 legs and 3262 QR head. They're probably the minimum worth getting. They are both older models. The 3021 legs are now sold as the Manfrotto 055. The ball head I have is mediocre. Those are mostly preference so try out some different ones and find one you like. If you want the older models like I have you should be able to get them for under $100 on Craigslist or eBay. If you must buy new I'd save up and plan on spending at least a couple hundred bucks.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:15 PM   #902
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I don't know anything about it. It also depends on what set up you are using. If you just have a T3i w/ a kit lens you don't need to support that much weight. Once you upgrade to better lenses which are usually heavier you may want a better quality piece.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:24 PM   #903
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im getting a 18-135 and 50 1.8 off the bat. I'm trying to get good stuff right away. Any other brands you would recommend? im just trying to see whats out there. Thanks for the info btw
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:27 PM   #904
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Well the 50 f/1.8 weighs absolutely nothing and I'm sure the 18-135 is not even that heavy. I would honestly just go read a bunch of reviews and see what weight specs different ones have.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:28 PM   #905
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Manfrotto 055 legs and the head of your choice.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:31 PM   #906
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^^^ Which model? Will the XPROB do?

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Old 10-18-2012, 11:41 PM   #907
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:52 AM   #909
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Now people say what tripods are good. sigh.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:25 AM   #910
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Pics are a little over a month old.

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I was along for the ride since it was my buddy's shoot i had to stay out of the shot so couldnt really work it but i was happyish with the results anyway
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:08 AM   #911
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Here are a couple new shots with multiple polarizations. Some nice fall colors in the backgrounds too. I really like the technique.

They looked great on my computer, but you can still see how multiple polarizations can really kill the reflections.

Just to clarify, multiple polarizations = use of stacked/multiple CPLs?
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:26 AM   #912
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im getting a 18-135 and 50 1.8 off the bat. I'm trying to get good stuff right away. Any other brands you would recommend? im just trying to see whats out there. Thanks for the info btw
For just starting out, I'd stick with something cheap, in all honesty. I used a 20$ tripod for years before investing in something better. Figure out what features you want in a tripod and then invest in a higher quality one. A T3i and most lenses you would be attaching to it are not heavy enough to challenge your average tripod out there. Just my two cents.

After a lot of research I wound up with a Three Legged Thing ordered from B&H.
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:55 AM   #913
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Just to clarify, multiple polarizations = use of stacked/multiple CPLs?
No. that's what I thought it was when I first heard it. It's when you take several photos of the vehicle with the filter in different positions every shot. Then you go into Photoshop and layer the images. Then you erase different areas that have the worse glare or reflection which then gives you a super clean looking photo.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:09 AM   #914
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No. that's what I thought it was when I first heard it. It's when you take several photos of the vehicle with the filter in different positions every shot. Then you go into Photoshop and layer the images. Then you erase different areas that have the worse glare or reflection which then gives you a super clean looking photo.
Correct, that it is what I do. I usually take 6-10 shots with varying polarization angles. Then combine them in Photoshop and choose which ones to use. I usually only end up using 4-5 shots for the final image, but I like taking more to make sure I get it looking exactly how I want to. Ideally it would be great to do a 20+ different angles and then you could pick and choose which ones you want to highlight the body lines of the car.

You could do it all in camera with multiple CPL's, but it would be tricky to get them all set right (although probably not too hard). But you would lose a lot of light with more than a couple stacked up, so you would definitely need a tripod or some other support. I would also be worried about putting that many layers of extra glass in from of the camera (adversely affecting image quality).
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:13 AM   #915
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^^^ Which model? Will the XPROB do?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search...op+Nav-Search=
Yes. That is probably the minimum I'd recommend for legs. They'll be strong enough to "grow into them" with bigger lenses, so you won't just end up selling them in a couple years.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ipod_Legs.html

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Now people say what tripods are good. sigh.
What does this mean?

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For just starting out, I'd stick with something cheap, in all honesty. I used a 20$ tripod for years before investing in something better. Figure out what features you want in a tripod and then invest in a higher quality one. A T3i and most lenses you would be attaching to it are not heavy enough to challenge your average tripod out there. Just my two cents.

After a lot of research I wound up with a Three Legged Thing ordered from B&H.
Buying a cheap one to decide what you like makes sense, but it will basically be wasted money. I'd probably rather buy a set of decent legs and then go to the used market and try different heads. If you don't like one you should easily be able to sell it and recoup 100% of your money. Support items (tripods, heads, etc) are pretty universal, so there is a lot of demand.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:26 AM   #916
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It was a joke. I asked about which tripod to get a while ago and received a lack of response.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:31 AM   #917
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I usually don't go into it to much, because it's mostly preference. I just don't think it's worth it to buy one for $20 that is going to be worse than hand holding...
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:34 AM   #918
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Right, I just wanted a heavy one. I'm not into all the carbon fiber and aluminum.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:12 AM   #919
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I usually don't go into it to much, because it's mostly preference. I just don't think it's worth it to buy one for $20 that is going to be worse than hand holding...
The 20$ worked great (perfectly steady shots, no problem) until I knew what features mattered to me - a 20$ learning lesson rather than 150$ (or more) one. The legs on it were quite sturdy, the cheapness comes in with all the plastic components - such as the leg locks (they did lock securely though, just felt flimsy and was not the style that I wanted), head piece, mounting plate, extension height, etc. When I was out with other photographers I'd just spend some time checking out their equipment and see what features I liked about it. That was just my route though, everyone does their own thing.
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Right, I just wanted a heavy one. I'm not into all the carbon fiber and aluminum.
Just out of curiosity, why do you want a heavy one? I've always wanted one on the lighter side b/c I carry it long distances and I'm already carrying plenty of other gear. If it is windy or on precarious terrain and I want to steady the tripod I just hang my bag on it. In addition to the 3 Legged Thing I've got an old Hakuba CF tripod that is solid as a rock - a great tripod if you can find them.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:50 AM   #921
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The 20$ worked great (perfectly steady shots, no problem) until I knew what features mattered to me - a 20$ learning lesson rather than 150$ (or more) one. The legs on it were quite sturdy, the cheapness comes in with all the plastic components - such as the leg locks (they did lock securely though, just felt flimsy and was not the style that I wanted), head piece, mounting plate, extension height, etc. When I was out with other photographers I'd just spend some time checking out their equipment and see what features I liked about it. That was just my route though, everyone does their own thing.
Yeah, the flimsy plastic components is why I would skip the super cheapo tripods. With a little nicer one you shouldn't have any problem buying a used one and selling it for the same amount. But that's just what I'd do. For some people, a cheap one would probably work out fine for the learning period. I actually had one of the real cheap ones a few years before I got this one and I hated it. I didn't even feel it was worth using.

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Just out of curiosity, why do you want a heavy one? I've always wanted one on the lighter side b/c I carry it long distances and I'm already carrying plenty of other gear. If it is windy or on precarious terrain and I want to steady the tripod I just hang my bag on it. In addition to the 3 Legged Thing I've got an old Hakuba CF tripod that is solid as a rock - a great tripod if you can find them.
Heavy is a pretty easy way to get a cheap + sturdy combo. But adding weight like you suggested is usually the best way to make it really sturdy.

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Old 10-19-2012, 11:51 AM   #922
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Heavy is a pretty easy way to get a light + sturdy combo. But adding weight like you suggested is usually the best way to make it really sturdy.
Ok. I think I was just misinterpreting what you were meaning.
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:25 PM   #923
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Ok. I think I was just misinterpreting what you were meaning.
Typo in the line you quoted. What I meant to say was that heavy was a good way to find a tripod that is cheap and sturdy.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:36 PM   #924
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I'm going to completely change the subject here. I need to get a flash and I'm looking at the 430 EXII. I don't need a top of the line one. I want to use it indoors for pictures of my kids since my house is lit like the bat cave. Anyone have and opinions on this?
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:41 PM   #925
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That would be perfect.
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