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Old 08-25-2012, 10:02 AM   #1
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Hey guys,

So recently I've been having more problems with the Noykas and thought I'd share a few pics. I know its a very simple mod, but I was here once looking for "best yellow fogs" and hopefully I can make it a little easier on the new guys.

It seems as if Nokya has had 2 different bulbs. I have had the old design and new design with problems on both.


Old design on the left (hard plastic) and new on the right (soft plastic)


My first set lasted about 9 months before one went out. Turns out that the bulbs do run hotter then stock. I have heard this before and didn't listen so I had to replace my existing stock plastic connectors with ceramic ones. I recommend doing this with all aftermarket bulbs. (This was my fault for not listening to tips on the websites where I bought the bulbs, lesson learned)

But after I took the first set of bulbs out they looked like this.... They seem as if the coloring on the bulbs started to run or gather as the bulbs got hot, then cold, and hot, and so on...




So I replaced them with the newer design. After about 3 months another burnt out and I checked everything again. The connectors where perfect but the bulbs looked like this.




The design must be horrible if the glass started to melt. I can't believe my housings have no damage from this.

Long story short, all I'm trying to do it make life a little easier for someone who wants to know "what fogs should I buy?". I was once there and I don't want someone to do what I did. I'm not bashing Nokya, just sharing personal experience.

I have recently switched to Ziza bulbs because my friends have used them with no known problems. I'll update on those soon!

Thanks for listening!





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Old 08-25-2012, 12:51 PM   #2
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I've never seen a bulb grow a tumor like this... this is hilarious. The bulb got damn hot though, glass melts at 2700-4000F!

Very nice ride, by the way. Needs mudflaps
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Old 08-25-2012, 02:36 PM   #3
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I've never seen a bulb grow a tumor like this... this is hilarious. The bulb got damn hot though, glass melts at 2700-4000F!

Very nice ride, by the way. Needs mudflaps
You are thinking the same as me.... Extremely hot to do that . And thank you!
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Old 08-27-2012, 02:49 AM   #4
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He touched the bulb with his fingers.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:13 AM   #5
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Hello, sir

I kinda second the idea that it somehow got some contaminants on it. I might be a little overkill, but I use gloves when installing headlights and only have it out of the pack as long as need to get it from the box to the housing. It appears something on on the surface in the area where it "tumored".

That could have come from the factory too. That would be their fault for shipping it like that. It's more likely it's something like this since the new ones you got from a different company work fine.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:19 AM   #6
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^^^

i, too, do that. but before i install bulbs.. i wipe em down with alcohol and then install... only handing them with clean rubber gloves..

ive had nokyas for almost a year now and this thread made me run to my car to check em out haha but, theyre still lookin good
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:58 PM   #7
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Hello, sir

I kinda second the idea that it somehow got some contaminants on it. I might be a little overkill, but I use gloves when installing headlights and only have it out of the pack as long as need to get it from the DVD In-dash Player to the housing. It appears something on on the surface in the area where it "tumored".

That could have come from the factory too. That would be their fault for shipping it like that. It's more likely it's something like this since the new ones you got from a different company work fine.
Yeah, even though it's a small tumor it could be due to the lack of using the latex gloves.
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Looking at your first pic comparing the packages, you can see the latest "version" of the bulb has its filament extremely mis-centered in the bulb. I think this bulb type is supposed to have its filament centered. That would explain the melting. Not knowing the brand Nokya, I would venture to say that it is either an extremely crappy brand, or you bought counterfeit bulbs. That might explain the design and package difference too.

Not to mention how the misplaced filament must result in a very crappy output pattern. Filament placement is critical for proper optics. It looks like 3 mm off in the pic, thats huge.

I'd rather buy good (clear) 9006 bulbs from daniel stern, or replace them with Philips HIR bulbs, bulb number 9012, and put a yellow layer on the housing instead. Then you wont be afraid of the car catching fire or something, and you'll know you run quality bulbs with proper optics.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:11 PM   #9
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Also Nokya sounds and looks like it wants to be Narva. Crappy brands often choose their name so it sounds and look like reputable brands (same letters with a typo, or sound alike) but what is in the package is utter crap. Looks like Nokya is an example of that.
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Old 08-31-2012, 11:17 PM   #10
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Hahah whoa guys! Haven't checked this recently but I think everyone's taking this thread as a "help me fix this problem".

I do install all bulbs by only touching the plastic connector piece, after wiping them down with alcohol.

The first melting connector was completely my fault for not installing ceramic connectors with the aftermarket bulbs.

I just posted this thread to share some pics and experiences with you guys because threads like these always interest me in return. I like seeing personal experiences with products.

Currently the bulbs have been switched with a new brand and I am loving them
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:07 AM   #11
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a bazillion people use Nokya bulbs and don't have problems. for a while they were likely the most popular "fashion" bulb sold through most of the country's aftermarket warehouse distributors to websites and stores.

that said...they are korean bulbs. and...they are relatively cheap. so, sometimes things happen and stuff slips through QC. sometimes things are a bit off and cause a much higher current draw that intended and, especially with fogs, it can cause issues with tiny terminals and tiny wiring...and the plastic that surrounds all of that. some cars are more sensitive to that than others - i know the fog wiring and terminals in my 2012 STI are laughable but are just enough to work well with normal OE wattage bulbs.

contamination can cause issues, as mentioned, but it seems the OP didn't have such an issue.

i am concerned about the second one - that is very interesting to me. i've seen coatings burn up and bubble, but not the whole capsule.

for what it is worth...

if you are looking for cheap yellow bulbs with decent quality, i prefer the Optilux XY from Hella. NOTHING but fantastic luck with those. korean, but still - i've never had one issue with 'em even when used as low beams such as a colleagues Mini Cooper GP he's had since 2006.

Hella makes Yellow Star bulbs in some fitments and they are definitely worth looking into - super cheap and extremely well made, but very limited fitments.

Hella also makes DOT "Xenon Yellow" bulbs in their regular retail package line. those bulbs are built extremely well and are usually priced about 30% more than the Optilux but they go through a much more stringent build process. they aren't piss yellow, a more mild yellow, but are crazy yellow when used in combination with yellow Lamin-x.
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OP : do you still have the bubbled out bulbs? I would like to see better angle pics of the filament placement. If it is as much off as it looks in your first pic, I am sure this is not caused by your handling and really by the filament placement. Anyways you did the right thing changing brand if you ask me Did you stay in yellow? What brand did you end up choosing?

Having gazzilion people buying crap does not make it any better. But I guess for fashion bulbs quality and lighting performance is not really an issue. What are fashion bulbs anyway? My guess is the vast majority of people use them on the road and not for shows. So having major design flaws is not really acceptable.
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OP : do you still have the bubbled out bulbs? I would like to see better angle pics of the filament placement. If it is as much off as it looks in your first pic, I am sure this is not caused by your handling and really by the filament placement. Anyways you did the right thing changing brand if you ask me Did you stay in yellow? What brand did you end up choosing?

Having gazzilion people buying crap does not make it any better. But I guess for fashion bulbs quality and lighting performance is not really an issue. What are fashion bulbs anyway? My guess is the vast majority of people use them on the road and not for shows. So having major design flaws is not really acceptable.
i know it doesn't make it better. i am not saying that. what i am saying is that this isn't some off brand as some people in this thread are inferring because they've never heard of Nokya. in the aftermarket automotive industry, SPW and the bulb brand Nokya are high volume and very popular. if they were riddled with these sorts of issues they would have never gotten to that point. but like i already said, things happen, esp with korean QC.

a fashion bulb is any bulb that sacrifices actual light output for light appearance. white, purple, blue, yellow...whatever. if it has a coating or does something to filter the light output, it's generally considered a fashion bulb. some are considered high performance because they are built better and they have refined the compromise between output and color, but they are still grouped in fashion. it didn't always used to be like this - cars in europe have used yellow or amber bulbs for decades, but when people started sweating the amber option fogs that people like honda access were doing for civics, it became fashionable to have yellow fogs under the guise of why people have always used them - supposed better vision in inclement weather. maybe be true, may not be, but the reason a lot of people use them now is because they mimic that japanese fog look, hence the "JDM yellow" moniker.
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To me it looks more like a bad design issue, not a "one bulb in a million" QC issue. A quick google image search shows the filament is misplaced too on all sample nokya pictures that are clear enough to see in the correct angle:












Whereas another search for philips 9006 show the filament is properly centered:







Also a search of 9012 which is the HIR variant with same filament placement show centered filament. No way you get satisfactory lighing results with filament that way off. But its ok someone produces them I guess as there is a demand for cheap and nice looking color bulbs.. In any case I think the only reason for his 2 bulbs melting like they did is the filament issue. With all due respect I do not believe the fact I did not know the brand before seeing this thread makes a difference.
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