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Old 10-31-2013, 01:07 PM   #1
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Default Subaru Levorg Wagon

For those that don't venture into News & Rumors (my playground), Subaru is unveiling a new wagon concept. It has similar styling to the 2015 WRX Concept. I personally hope it comes to light as a proper WRX hatch/Legacy GT wagon replacement since it would kill two birds with one stone (assuming you already know that they've said "No WRX hatch for 2015+"). Anyways, here's all the teaser and news. I'll update as I can. I thought I'd make a new thread since Alaskans are heavy on utility and I thought this kind of exciting!

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The name "LEVORG" comes from a combination of the words "LEGACY", "REVOLUTION" and "TOURING" to represent the car which carries on Subaru's great heritage while pioneering a new age of touring car with innovation.


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Exhibition Outline of the 43rd Tokyo Motor Show 2013

<SUBARU LEVORG>
LEVORG features an exquisite and stylish design with a sports car feel. It offers the best in driveability, safety and environmental friendliness, combined with the practicality of a touring car. It is a new type of sports tourer targeting the Japan market.
LEVORG employs the most advanced technologies. For instance, the powertrain contains the newly-developed 1.6-liter Horizontally-Opposed direct injection turbo "DIT" engine which embodies both superb driving pleasure and extraordinary environmental performance. Also included is the next-generation EyeSight with many added safety functions and the newly launched steering support control.
Subaru is presenting to the world the new sports tourer LEVORG which transcends categorization and actualizes "driving enjoyment and peace of mind" at a higher standard.

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http://blog-883r.jp/archives/52344620.html
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Old 10-31-2013, 01:15 PM   #2
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Looks like Subaru borrower Audi's design team
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Old 10-31-2013, 01:27 PM   #3
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I think it gives us better hints on the upcoming wrx/sti. Oh and davin posted a link in OT. NBD
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Old 10-31-2013, 01:32 PM   #4
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I think it gives us better hints on the upcoming wrx/sti. Oh and davin posted a link in OT. NBD
Yeah, but I think the hint at the return of a sporty wagon deserves it's own thread.
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:00 PM   #5
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Good god that thing looks beautiful. Hope it comes in an STI or similar package.
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:00 PM   #6
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Yeah, but I think the hint at the return of a sporty wagon deserves it's own thread.
<----- this guys agrees!

Looks like a cross between an 05-09 LGT wagon, flared body of a WRX, with a more streamlined version of current Outback lights. Does resemble an Audi wagon to a point, which I don't think is a bad thing.
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:14 PM   #7
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Being around NASIOC for a while, I tend to agree that the 05-09 Legacy was over-engineered. The interior refinement was beyond the more spartan style that Subaru is known for using. They've claimed that they want to move the WRX/STI more upscale. I joke that it just means they'll get the 05-09 Legacy interior that people miss so much. haha

I speculated Subaru making a completely separate sporty wagon that drops the WRX name. People thought I was cray, but to me it makes sense. Having a sporty wagon will capture the WRX crowd and those that enjoyed the Legacy wagon. Subaru always claimed that the Legacy GT didn't sell very well, either wagon or sedan, especially with a manual transmission. Apparently the WRX sedan outsells the hatchback, but there aren't any solid numbers on that. Up here in Alaska there are hatches all over the place, but also a good mix of sedans. In the end it's never made sense for Subaru to nix the WRX hatch/wagon completely and I think this Levorg is their answer for everything.

This wagon looks pretty good.
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Old 10-31-2013, 04:04 PM   #8
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I like this however I feel like it takes the idea of a sporty hatch off the table. This design appears to be as long as the current outback and that's not fun. The short wheelbase and small overhang is what make the hatch feel so fun. I would prefer if Subaru just scraped the n/a engines and build turbo cars
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Old 10-31-2013, 04:25 PM   #9
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Looks promising. I can't beleive car companies do this, give what the people want. Its not like the wrx wagon didnt sell. stupid move imo if they dont make this.
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Old 10-31-2013, 05:50 PM   #10
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I like this however I feel like it takes the idea of a sporty hatch off the table. This design appears to be as long as the current outback and that's not fun. The short wheelbase and small overhang is what make the hatch feel so fun. I would prefer if Subaru just scraped the n/a engines and build turbo cars
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Looks promising. I can't believe car companies do this, give what the people want. Its not like the wrx wagon didnt sell. stupid move imo if they dont make this.
Apparently this is as long as the sedan, so not every long. The sedans have been about 6" longer than hatches. Also, on a larger scale hatches are most popular in Europe. Americans don't really understand them, along with wagons. Alaska is a whole different ball game, where most prefer utility over looks. Northwest caters themselves a bit more towards style, so sedans are popular, whereas hatches are popular only relative to traveling further east.

Basically: The further north you go, the more practical the vehicle choices become.

Besides style, another reason I got a sedan for 2011 WRX was because of the extra 6" of trunk space. I saw myself filling more stuff in longways than height-wise. I would rather have an actual wagon than a hatch, if given a choice. That's why the 2005 Legacy GT wagon and 2004-2008 Forester XT hold more appeal to me.
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Old 10-31-2013, 09:10 PM   #11
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Its nice to see exciting things in the future for Subaru. Honda always failed me with their future plans.
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:16 PM   #12
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Yeah I find it kind of odd that the bigger companies make less-inspiring inexpensive models. Toyota needed the FR-S/GT-86 so they approached Subaru. Nissan's 370Z is dying and they're trying to make a return to the small sports car market. Honda missed their opportunity with the CRZ and the Si needs balls (beyond the HPT package or whatever it's called).

I just assumed companies with more production and money would take more chances. Subaru has actually been considering raising their prices to keep demand down so they can stop overproducing since they don't want to expand. That's probably another reason why their performance lines have trimmed down.

However, Subaru is seriously considering (possibly even planning to, I forget) moving Forester and Impreza production to America after their new plant is built since those cars are selling very well and the Impreza is now separate from the WRX/STI. This would basically mean that all performance Subaru would be from Japanland while America (Subaru of America) would produce the breadwinners.

Not bad for a relatively small company.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:54 PM   #13
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Thats how Honda was doing it. The Si and other performance models were manufactured in Japan while all the lower trim models were built in US.

With Honda having alot of racing heritage it is so confusing why they want to stray away from that image and be all green. I mean i think it was their heritage that made Honda so great. I guess we will see what direction they will go after the new NSX.
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New NSX will be so money!
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I have one very good question.... who the hell makes up these lacksidasical names!?
Levorg. what... the..

By the window lines it looks almost exactly like an updated, turboed outback. And the size is pretty spot on. It kind of matches the spy shots that have been floating around for the '15 outback. what the heck is Subaru up to?
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Old 11-02-2013, 04:51 PM   #16
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I have one very good question.... who the hell makes up these lacksidasical names!?
Levorg. what... the..
Haha, I just noticed it's GROVEL backwards...
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the brz is the only Subaru that looks appropriate with the below-window mounted mirrors, IMHO. looks like they're gonna eventually put that design on all of the new models though.
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Yeah, unfortunately lower-mounted side mirrors are supposed to be more fuel-efficient. The FT-86 are the only ones that look very sporty while the other ones released thus far (Forester, Impreza/Crosstrek and spyshots for Legacy, Outback and 2015 WRX) look mostly functional. There are photoshops of the next WRX with BRZ side mirrors and it is sexy! Otherwise they're more like the current Impreza side mirrors, which I hate.

Japanese people think it's fun to actually follow through with name mash-ups instead of just leaving them on the table. Since this is just a concept it's a good way to get feedback on the name. I wish they have done that with the BRZ. Everyone thought they were joking when they announced that name. "Boxer Rear-wheel Zenith". Really?
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a little side history lesson..
the "Subaru Impreza WRX/STI" used to be the longest name any automaker dared to label a USDM production car. It probably doesnt hold this record any more though.
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:07 PM   #20
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Yeah in Japan it was even worse

Subaru WRX STi RA Spec-C
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:44 PM   #21
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I do want to own a Subaru WRX STI tS RA-R spec C version II 22b GT XT Limited coupe one day.
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Now see, that's a real name. Subaru needs you, Chano!
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Word! No room on the trunk for that, though.

I'm working on the "STI GtS" emblems currently. Subaru won't give up "tS" for nothin'! Japanparts.com says, "'tS' impossible to order!"
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Levorg has the power to make driving smooth and lively. However, it carries a low displacement engine that also allows excellent fuel efficiency. The Horizontally-Opposed direct injection turbo "DIT" powertrain comes in two types; one, the newly-developed 1.6-liter DIT, and two, the 2.0-liter DIT which gives superb driving pleasure with its high output and torque.
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[Main features]
■Product concept

"Sports Tourer Innovation"
Subaru prides itself on its unique approach to sports and touring performances of an automobile.Sports performance is linked to how much the car can offer driving enjoyment while touring performance is about a practical and comfortable driving experience even on long rides. Levorg has been developed to merge the two but with both at extremely high standards so that many of the qualities that are desired in a car become attainable. It innovates the whole concept of the sports tourer.
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< Transmission >
To match the two unique types of engine, the best fitting Lineartronic is optimized and installed.The characteristic of Lineartronic, its smoothness, is of course evident but it also provides a fun sporty drive with the "SI-DRIVE".

- Lineartronic (Coupled with 1.6-liter Horizontally-Opposed DIT Engine) -

For the 1.6-liter DIT, lightweight and compact Lineartronic has been adopted. The two modes of "SI-DRIVE" realize the best gear control for fuel efficiency and driving enjoyment.
- Sport Lineartronic (Coupled with 2.0-liter Horizontally-Opposed DIT Engine) -

High output and high torque 2.0-liter DIT is matched with Sport Lineartronic to endure the high performance model's heightened power and environmental performance.
"SI-DRIVE" has "Sport# (S#) mode" in which the driver can shift between eight steps. By choosing the mode, the driver can directly feel both Lineartronic's smooth gear shifting as well as its extraordinary power. It is sure to satisfy the desire for sporty driving.

< Chassis and Body >
Sports tourers are expected to offer both sports performance (for agile and fun driving) and quality driving comfort even on long rides. These demands were met by enhancing rigidity in various parts of the chassis and body of Levorg.

The electric power steering has been optimized and the body and suspension stiffness enhanced to realize a direct and sporty steering with great responsiveness.
The D-shaped steering wheel with a small diameter and thick grip improves maneuverability and grasp response.
Body and suspension stiffness was considerably refined to allow high grade driving comfort. By realizing a linear response to the road, Levorg can make even long drives a pleasurable experience, thereby fulfilling its role as a sports tourer.
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This should be the new Crystal White Pearl, I believe.








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