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Old 08-27-2012, 09:42 PM   #1
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Default Narva Bulbs (+50, etc.)

I'm sure I'm either getting the Narva Range Power +50.... or the Narva Range Power White for my H1 low beams.

Daniel Stern recommends the Range Power +50 rated at about 1750 lumens. I can't find a damn thing about these Range Power White's. Not anything on lumens at least.

What's the difference?

+50:
http://www.motivemods.com/NARVA-Rang...ar-rp50-h1.htm

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http://www.motivemods.com/NARVA-Rang...nar-rpw-h1.htm
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:45 AM   #2
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bump... anyone?
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:37 PM   #3
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I would ask any lighting question I have to Daniel Stern himself, he always responded to me with very helpful and detailed answers. You can ask about difference between the 2 bulbs. Ask if there is any coating on the white ones. Also ask if there is a life difference. If neither have a coating, at same wattage, chances are the bulb with shorter life is more overdriven thus producing more lumens. Also whiter light without any coating indicates the filament is likely more overdriven (true HIR being an exception). I doubt daniel stern would sell any bulb with a coating anyways as it goes against lighting performance. Except for maybe those blue tipped bulb where most of the bulb is stransluscent (the sides, where most of the light is emitted), this tip only coating probably gives a very low lumen drop while upping the kelvin rating.

On a side note, I feel (this is my opinion only, might not be true) the bulbs makers do not always publish the actual lumen output of their bulbs. Bulb model xyz is rated at x lumens, this is nt decided by the bulb maker, it is how the bulb must be. They can't exceed that otherwise it would not be approved for this bulb model. So sometimes I feel like the lumens rating of a given bulb should be taken with a grain of salt.

Also if a bulb actual lumen output is borderline low to meet the spec, they might still publish the typical lumen output of this bulb type and call it a day. As long as it is inside of the accepted range. I'd like to be able to provide the source where I read this, I think it was on candlepower or hidplanet forums. Please dont quote me on these 2 last paragraphs as I am not quite sure if I havent confused thing because its been a while since I read on that.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:52 PM   #4
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Thanks, at least that's something.

I actually did some more searching... just went to google images (durrrr). The 'white' ones are blue tinted it appears.

I'd love to know the lumen output of the 'whites' just as a comparison. Who knows if they're just a standard 1550 lumen bulb that's tinted, producing ~1300 lumens of actual light. They could be overdriven like the +50 at 1750, with the tint, producing around stock... but white.

At this point, I'm heading towards the +50.. but I'd really like some more whiteness to them.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:05 PM   #5
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i'd ask daniel stern if the +50 are whiter than regular bulbs (I would think so). But if the whites are coated I would definately go with the +50 anyway.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:24 PM   #6
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Daniel's response:

Quote:
> Daniel,
>
> I've read over your guide multiple times top to bottom and
> was set on the Narva Range Power +50's for my 2004 WRX...
> then I came across the Narva Range Power White's for the
> same price.

Don't. You want the RP50s.

> The lumen power you have listed for the +50's is 1750. I'm
> trying to find out if the Range Power White's are also 1750,

No.

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Old 08-29-2012, 02:45 PM   #7
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I think he is being that concise because there probably isnt much more to say.

I'd do what he says, and also I'd buy them from him good advice is worth something.

What I like of his website is he only carries what is best. If one can't find what you are looking for on his site, chances are someone is doing it wrong.
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:51 PM   #8
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I agree, he probably is right. I'd love that clean white look, but hey, they aren't HIDs.

I've had Nightbreaker H4's in the past and they were a nice upgrade... figured I'd go with something different this time.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:05 PM   #9
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Yep the official web site says it all. That's a "look at my HID" kind of halogen bulb with a big blue coating. You end up with the nice color but no light on the road. I would'nt touch that with a pole, especially if you care about lighting performance.

http://www.narva-light.com/en_en/tec...ge_power_white
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