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Old 08-28-2012, 07:22 PM   #1
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So I just moved back to AZ from the east coast. My car is registered in NC and I have a NC license. While driving cross country I got stopped for speeding in VA. A week later I picked up a AZ license.
Will this ticket follow me some how? I'm about to mail in payment but just curious.
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:27 PM   #2
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I got one in Tenn on a Nevada DL, coming cross country. I called to pay it after my move and because it was after 14 days they charged me an extra $100, so I told them to pound it. I picked up an AZ license a month or so later. That was three years ago, and I haven't had any issues.

You would likely have a warrant in VA if you ever go back, that could cause you some hassle. But as far as your DL I wouldn't see it causing you any issues. It will sit in the VA system, then go to warrant for non pay. They will send a letter to NJ License Division, and most likely that is as far as it will go. NJ will see that you aren't licensed there and there is nothing to suspend or follow up on, so it likely won't go any farther. It's just a speeding ticket, so I wouldn't stress it.

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Old 08-28-2012, 11:06 PM   #3
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FYI some states will honor other states suspension of your driving prvileges and suspend your license there. I'd just pay it and move on.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:24 AM   #4
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Also just an FYI..... If you havea warrant out of another state you will have about a zero percent chance of ever being let go on a traffic stop without a ticket. Many cops havent decided if they are going to write a ticket or just do an educational stop when they pull someone over. A lot of that decision is based on how you act and present yourself during the stop. But when the officer runs you through NCIC and finds you have a warrant you most likely are gonna get a ticket.

Also there is a 99 percent chance that VA wont extradite you over a traffic ticket. But its not unheard of for them to accidentally put in that they will. You wont actually get extradited, most likely, if that happened but it sure would waste a lot of your time while they figured that out.

Also in the state of Arizona getting caught driving on a suspended license will get your car impounded for 30 days. Its the law. The only way you would be able to keep your car is if you had a crazy circumstance like a baby in the car, were far from home, and no one could pick you up. Even then a supervisor would have to approve that decision and could easily say tow it anyways. Average storage fees for the tow is over 800 bucks.

On top of that driving on a suspended license is a criminal ticket which means there is a good chance you will go to jail on top of the thousand(ish) dollar fine.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:45 AM   #5
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Spoken like a true professional.

I'd personally just pay it and move on.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:44 PM   #6
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Just an additional thought...make sure you send the payment through a traceable means (UPS, return receipt, etc) and guaranteed funds.

Make sure that you keep the record of payment. Clerical errors can happen and having proof-of-payment is always a good idea.
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Old 08-29-2012, 04:24 PM   #7
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Also just an FYI..... If you havea warrant out of another state you will have about a zero percent chance of ever being let go on a traffic stop without a ticket. Many cops havent decided if they are going to write a ticket or just do an educational stop when they pull someone over. A lot of that decision is based on how you act and present yourself during the stop. But when the officer runs you through NCIC and finds you have a warrant you most likely are gonna get a ticket.

Also there is a 99 percent chance that VA wont extradite you over a traffic ticket. But its not unheard of for them to accidentally put in that they will. You wont actually get extradited, most likely, if that happened but it sure would waste a lot of your time while they figured that out.

Also in the state of Arizona getting caught driving on a suspended license will get your car impounded for 30 days. Its the law. The only way you would be able to keep your car is if you had a crazy circumstance like a baby in the car, were far from home, and no one could pick you up. Even then a supervisor would have to approve that decision and could easily say tow it anyways. Average storage fees for the tow is over 800 bucks.

On top of that driving on a suspended license is a criminal ticket which means there is a good chance you will go to jail on top of the thousand(ish) dollar fine.
This is not necessarily true. Traffic and Misdemeanor Warrants are only held in the State Wide Warrants Database, they are only submitted to NCIC in very rare instances (never for traffic). I have seen some instances where officers have been lazy and overlooked the NCIC check and let wanted Felons go because they came back negative on a state wide search.

There is also a ZERO percent chance that VA would extradite anyone over a moving violation, unless a serious clerical error was made, and even then it would be caught well before it became an issue.

Don't get me wrong, the easiest thing to do, as well as the morally correct thing to do, would be to just man up and pay the ticket.
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:52 PM   #8
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This is not necessarily true. Traffic and Misdemeanor Warrants are only held in the State Wide Warrants Database, they are only submitted to NCIC in very rare instances (never for traffic). I have seen some instances where officers have been lazy and overlooked the NCIC check and let wanted Felons go because they came back negative on a state wide search.

There is also a ZERO percent chance that VA would extradite anyone over a moving violation, unless a serious clerical error was made, and even then it would be caught well before it became an issue.

Don't get me wrong, the easiest thing to do, as well as the morally correct thing to do, would be to just man up and pay the ticket.
Well you and I must have different experiences then. I have run people who have shown up with out of state misdemeanor warrants. Maybe I was wrong with them being in NCIC but they do show up outside of ACIC.

Edit: When I was talking about VA extraditing I did say that a clerical error could say it was. He wouldnt get extradited, but it sure would be a waste of time for him while the officers figured that out.
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Just to be clear we are talking about a worst case scenario here. But I live my life by the motto "Prepare for the worst and hope for the best".

Its a good motto to live by, you'll live longer.
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Well you and I must have different experiences then. I have run people who have shown up with out of state misdemeanor warrants. Maybe I was wrong with them being in NCIC but they do show up outside of ACIC.

Edit: When I was talking about VA extraditing I did say that a clerical error could say it was. He wouldnt get extradited, but it sure would be a waste of time for him while the officers figured that out.
Yeah, I am sure each agency and state have their own systems and protocols. I just remember being told a few years back, that due to the amount of misdemeanor warrants, that each state was going to have to track them independently and that the justice courts (usually the ones who handle misdemeanors and traffic) were not able to submit traffic or misdemeanor warrants to NCIC.

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Just to be clear we are talking about a worst case scenario here. But I live my life by the motto "Prepare for the worst and hope for the best".

Its a good motto to live by, you'll live longer.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:03 PM   #11
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Will this ticket follow me some how? I'm about to mail in payment but just curious.
Pay it.

Not just because of the good reasons above think about things OUTSIDE of DMV too. My vendor status at a large company means having a background check once a year. Guarantee you that a warrant WILL show up and could very easily put my job at risk ( no site access ).

Information age = Nowhere to hide anymore.
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:20 AM   #12
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Also just an FYI..... If you havea warrant out of another state you will have about a zero percent chance of ever being let go on a traffic stop without a ticket. Many cops havent decided if they are going to write a ticket or just do an educational stop when they pull someone over. A lot of that decision is based on how you act and present yourself during the stop. But when the officer runs you through NCIC and finds you have a warrant you most likely are gonna get a ticket.

Also there is a 99 percent chance that VA wont extradite you over a traffic ticket. But its not unheard of for them to accidentally put in that they will. You wont actually get extradited, most likely, if that happened but it sure would waste a lot of your time while they figured that out.

Also in the state of Arizona getting caught driving on a suspended license will get your car impounded for 30 days. Its the law. The only way you would be able to keep your car is if you had a crazy circumstance like a baby in the car, were far from home, and no one could pick you up. Even then a supervisor would have to approve that decision and could easily say tow it anyways. Average storage fees for the tow is over 800 bucks.

On top of that driving on a suspended license is a criminal ticket which means there is a good chance you will go to jail on top of the thousand(ish) dollar fine.

Are you talking out of your ass, or from personal experience?

I was driving on a suspended license which was dui related. I got pulled over my MCSO in a friends car initially for the window tint. I was with others in the vehicle. I was never handcuffed, the vehicle was not impounded (nor did a supervisor come out), and lastly I was not taken to jail, I was released with a summons to appear. Upon going to court for the ticket, I received an additional one year suspension (less if non-dui related), NO jail time, and a $490 fine.

Don't feed others incorrect information, as it sounds like you have no previous run ins with this type of matter.

To the OP...just pay the ticket. I found out when I went to re-instate my AZ license back in 2010 that I somehow managed to have an unpaid speeding ticket from New Hampshire from all the way back in 2004. Apparently my at the time MA license was suspended in NH, which is reciprocal with MA. When I went to the DMV here, they would not re-instate my license until I cleared my default with NH, which being reciprocal, meant I also had to pay MA to reinstate it as well. So due to this unpaid speeding ticket from 6 years prior, I had to pay 3 different states to re-instate my license.
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Are you talking out of your ass, or from personal experience?

I was driving on a suspended license which was dui related. I got pulled over my MCSO in a friends car initially for the window tint. I was with others in the vehicle. I was never handcuffed, the vehicle was not impounded (nor did a supervisor come out), and lastly I was not taken to jail, I was released with a summons to appear. Upon going to court for the ticket, I received an additional one year suspension (less if non-dui related), NO jail time, and a $490 fine.

Don't feed others incorrect information, as it sounds like you have no previous run ins with this type of matter.

To the OP...just pay the ticket. I found out when I went to re-instate my AZ license back in 2010 that I somehow managed to have an unpaid speeding ticket from New Hampshire from all the way back in 2004. Apparently my at the time MA license was suspended in NH, which is reciprocal with MA. When I went to the DMV here, they would not re-instate my license until I cleared my default with NH, which being reciprocal, meant I also had to pay MA to reinstate it as well. So due to this unpaid speeding ticket from 6 years prior, I had to pay 3 different states to re-instate my license.
Sounds like you got lucky. Really I think it's at the officers discretion, driving on suspension in AZ is a Class 2 Misdemeanor and is an arrestable offense.
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument....28&DocType=ARS

As stated above all of these are worst case scenario's, there are a lot of other things to factor in. Attitude, criminal history, lazy officer, etc...
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Are you talking out of your ass, or from personal experience?
I'm pretty sure he knows what he's talking about, I would trust his advice.
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Are you talking out of your ass, or from personal experience?
Yeeeeaaa man, I'm also pretty sure he knows at least a lil bit of what he is talking about.
Are you afraid he'll make a stink?
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:27 AM   #16
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Are you talking out of your ass, or from personal experience?
Might want to check his sources before you jump to conclusions.

Also, cool story about having a DUI, ballin.

To the OP, I just had a friend who was pulled over, had a ticket from Cali, (he says he forgot about, in a rental car). They told him the his license was suspended, and they towed his vehicle. A few hundred dollars later, including reinstating his CA license, and a week in the impound, he was solid again.

Just my .02.
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:45 PM   #17
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Are you talking out of your ass, or from personal experience?

I was driving on a suspended license which was dui related. I got pulled over my MCSO in a friends car initially for the window tint. I was with others in the vehicle. I was never handcuffed, the vehicle was not impounded (nor did a supervisor come out), and lastly I was not taken to jail, I was released with a summons to appear. Upon going to court for the ticket, I received an additional one year suspension (less if non-dui related), NO jail time, and a $490 fine.

Don't feed others incorrect information, as it sounds like you have no previous run ins with this type of matter.

To the OP...just pay the ticket. I found out when I went to re-instate my AZ license back in 2010 that I somehow managed to have an unpaid speeding ticket from New Hampshire from all the way back in 2004. Apparently my at the time MA license was suspended in NH, which is reciprocal with MA. When I went to the DMV here, they would not re-instate my license until I cleared my default with NH, which being reciprocal, meant I also had to pay MA to reinstate it as well. So due to this unpaid speeding ticket from 6 years prior, I had to pay 3 different states to re-instate my license.
Yep you are right. I dont know anything about Az law. I just troll around and make stuff up.

But maybe you should brush up on your Arizona Revised Statutes?

Particularly ARS 28-3511A. It reads:

A. A peace officer shall cause the removal and either immobilization or impoundment of a vehicle if the peace officer determines that a person is driving the vehicle while any of the following applies:1. Except as otherwise provided in this paragraph, the person's driving privilege is suspended or revoked for any reason. A peace officer shall not cause the removal and either immobilization or impoundment of a vehicle pursuant to this paragraph if the person's privilege to drive is valid in this state.

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatD...8&DocType=ARSI

I dont know the reason why the MCSO deputy didn't tow the car you were driving. Maybe just laziness. Or maybe he did in fact contact his supervisor and informed him of the situation and the supervisor made the call. I never said the supervisor has to come to the scene. Modern technology lets people communicate in various ways over long distance.

Also just because your court case went well and you got off easy doesnt mean that happens to everyone. Your punishment is determined by the judge and can differ between each case.
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:56 PM   #18
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A few of these stories convinced me to just send in the payment. The situation I was in just made me wonder how it would all play out. In the long run I can't afford to take the risk. The type of work I do requires clean records and background. Thanks for all the input.
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Well you and I must have different experiences then. I have run people who have shown up with out of state misdemeanor warrants. Maybe I was wrong with them being in NCIC but they do show up outside of ACIC.

Edit: When I was talking about VA extraditing I did say that a clerical error could say it was. He wouldnt get extradited, but it sure would be a waste of time for him while the officers figured that out.
Any time I have run people during traffic stops or contacts, if they have a warrant it always comes back irregardless of state.

But unlike what C-Grunt stated, if I stopped them for something along the lines of wide turn, lights, etc. I will pull them from the car, inform them about the warrant and cut a warning. Rarely do I cite unless I feel the driving infraction is warranted (i.e. running a red light).

AWDTOY, you can contact the court and see if there is an online class you can take. Saves you from getting points if you are worried about that.

Now another question, if you have a ticket in one state, does that go against you in insurance?
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Any time I have run people during traffic stops or contacts, if they have a warrant it always comes back irregardless of state.

But unlike what C-Grunt stated, if I stopped them for something along the lines of wide turn, lights, etc. I will pull them from the car, inform them about the warrant and cut a warning. Rarely do I cite unless I feel the driving infraction is warranted (i.e. running a red light).

AWDTOY, you can contact the court and see if there is an online class you can take. Saves you from getting points if you are worried about that.

Now another question, if you have a ticket in one state, does that go against you in insurance?
Are you talking out your ass? LOL

I'm with you on the ticketing part. I write very few tickets outside of wrecks but I give a lot of warnings and educational stops.

I'm glad you have seen out of state warrants too. I thought I might have been going crazy there for a bit.
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btw, just so most of you guys know a red light ticket is 8 points on the license.

If there is a sign that says "no turn on red", that's a red light ticket even if you stop but proceed on red.

Camera redlight tickets are 8 points also.

I had heard flciking a cigarette out your window *could* get you 6 months in tent city, not sure about that
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btw, just so most of you guys know a red light ticket is 8 points on the license.

If there is a sign that says "no turn on red", that's a red light ticket even if you stop but proceed on red.

Camera redlight tickets are 8 points also.

I had heard flciking a cigarette out your window *could* get you 6 months in tent city, not sure about that
wtf?


http://www.azdot.gov/mvd/driver/driverimprovement.asp


http://www.dmv.org/az-arizona/point-system.php
The Motor Vehicle Division (MVD) assesses points against your permanent driving record each time you are convicted of, or forfeit bail for, a moving violation.

DUI (blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of 0.08% or higher, 0.04% if commercial vehicle): 8 points
Extreme DUI (BAC of 0.15% or higher): 8 points
Reckless driving: 8 points
Aggressive driving: 8 points
Leaving the scene of an accident: 6 points
Running a traffic signal or stop sign or failing to yield, thus causing death: 6 points
Running a traffic signal or stop sign or failing to yield, thus causing serious injury: 4 points
Speeding: 3 points
Driving over an area where one or more of the lanes diverge to go in a different direction (gore area): 3 points
All other driving violations: 2 points
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wtf?


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http://www.dmv.org/az-arizona/point-system.php
The Motor Vehicle Division (MVD) assesses points against your permanent driving record each time you are convicted of, or forfeit bail for, a moving violation.

DUI (blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of 0.08% or higher, 0.04% if commercial vehicle): 8 points
Extreme DUI (BAC of 0.15% or higher): 8 points
Reckless driving: 8 points
Aggressive driving: 8 points
Leaving the scene of an accident: 6 points
Running a traffic signal or stop sign or failing to yield, thus causing death: 6 points
Running a traffic signal or stop sign or failing to yield, thus causing serious injury: 4 points
Speeding: 3 points
Driving over an area where one or more of the lanes diverge to go in a different direction (gore area): 3 points
All other driving violations: 2 points
whoops, okay, I either misunderstood the traffic school teacher lady or she was wrong.

I think I misunderstood.

This is all new to me, back in the day there was only ONE driving school that was 8 hours and like $85, now I guess there's two different courses.

I think now a 4 hour class for speeding tickets which is $185~ and such and a traffic survival school which is $65~ but 8 hours long.

IF you get 8 points, you have to take tss. BUT you also have to take it if you get a redlight ticket. I could've sworn the instructor lady said red lights were 8 pnts, I guess not.

She was also saying that if you took tss, you were on a one year probation and after which you would lose your license for any violation.

I dunno, probably my fault, I was half awake when I took the damn thing, az is full of all these crazy laws and penalties we never used to have and it's getting worse. We also have way more drivers here and they are getting worse too.

Just don't do anything anymore, sit at your house and twitter your facebook while on xbox live, you can't get any tickets that way.
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