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Old 08-06-2013, 05:40 PM   #1
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I was burning up the track at this year's Ultimate Track Car Challenge!

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Old 08-06-2013, 08:22 PM   #2
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Uhhh more info?
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:39 PM   #3
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Oil fire.
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:40 PM   #4
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Yeah I read the yout00bz description.
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:56 PM   #5
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I'm kind of on the fence now about what happened but we've been racing the car hard now boosted, Hydra EMS, and E85 and winning races. We started having overheating issues amd if you look at how most of the turbo kits are for the FRS/BRZ you will not how much heat is right there next to the radiator. Street guys aren't in as much need for massive cooling like us road racers.

In any even we've been working on flow through the radiator etc but I've been finishing my timed laps with the coolant temps in the red for about 12 race sessions. I know bad but you know, I like winning. LOL! It would never have a problem on the dyno or the street only race conditions. Finally at Ultimate Track Car Challenge we had seen the water trail from what seemed like a pin hole leak. In went a bottle of radiator stop leak and I hoped for the best but I got the worst!

Now as the car overheated the Hydra would always go into limp and drop HP probably saving the motor. The leak appeared to be fixed as I finished my first lap so I stayed in it and I think the head gasket blew, hydrolock, rod through the block and then the oil fire. It just burned out of control from there.

Now I'm thinking its possibly another failure given rod 4 broke. The car has been pulling some wicked lap times given my relatively low power as our corner grip and speed has been huge. It's very possible I spun a rod bearing due to oil starvation. We'll only know when we tear things down.
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That's terribad.
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So was there ever any more info on what actually failed first? These overheating issues in the modified cars are really turning me off to this car.

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So was there ever any more info on what actually failed first? These overheating issues in the modified cars are really turning me off to this car.
So you don't want the car because people are blowing up their MODIFIED ones?
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So was there ever any more info on what actually failed first? These overheating issues in the modified cars are really turning me off to this car.
I never had any issues when the engine was NA with overheating.

I knew about the overheating issues so that's why I purchased a Full Blown Radiator before turbocharging it. We didn't have any issues when we raced at NJ Motorsports winning that race but we are confident we were overheating due to the pinhole leak in the radiator.

Never overheated on the dyno or the street but with a supercharger or turbocharger just plan on buying a larger radiator.
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So you don't want the car because people are blowing up their MODIFIED ones?
Go big or go home

Thanks Element Tuning. I keep reading about people having oil and coolant temp issues on their turbocharged setups, not necessarily on the street but even with a few laps during track days. It sounds like maybe they just aren't taking the appropriate precautions though.
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Go big or go home

Thanks Element Tuning. I keep reading about people having oil and coolant temp issues on their turbocharged setups, not necessarily on the street but even with a few laps during track days. It sounds like maybe they just aren't taking the appropriate precautions though.
Yeah the OEM radiator is tiny and not up to the task with boost!
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Go big or go home

Thanks Element Tuning. I keep reading about people having oil and coolant temp issues on their turbocharged setups, not necessarily on the street but even with a few laps during track days. It sounds like maybe they just aren't taking the appropriate precautions though.
I can respect that. haha Yeah, there's definitely issues with the stock radiator. I can't wait to see what Crawford Performance has cooked up with their larger radiator.
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:38 PM   #13
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It's all just a very tight fit in there when you try and stuff a big turbocharger up front. I ran the OEM fans but they are just about touching my turbo kit. The Full Blown radiator I believe has the thickest core out there.

Also I've experienced this in the past with aftermarket radiators and fans. Some times people get these Chinese fans that just don't supply enough CFM and the car overheats in normal driving. I'm not a Chinese parts hater by any means but know what you are buying and look at the CFM rating of the fan and make sure it's very high. It need to be higher than you think because slim fans don't often have nice and sealed shrouding like OEM.
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