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Old 08-29-2012, 08:47 PM   #1
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Default Stock Subaru 2.5L shortblock 1/4 mile record

There's a thread going for the fastest stock 2.0 liter shortblock and that record is a mid 11 second 1/4 mile drag time.

Does Roly still have the best claimed stock shortblock 2.5L Subaru drag time and speed? I don't know if there was any investigation into whether it was actually a stock shortblock or not and I'm not looking to get into that. I want to know if his 10.49 at 129 MPH is the best claimed stock shortblock pass.

I'm asking about a totally stock shortblock as it came from Subaru, not stock block (case halves) with upgraded pistons etc., not a stock shortblock that's been rebuilt.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:51 PM   #2
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Pretty sure roly driving someone else car has gone 10.4 or quicker with like a 136mph trap on a completely stock engine(no pistons). That pass was proly a year before his pass with a bolt on 30r that your referring too

**EDIT: AFter lots of searching Im pretty sure Ive mistaken. The 2 quick/fasestt times I know for sure are the 2 listed...o2h2o and roly

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Old 08-29-2012, 09:05 PM   #3
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Link? When I did a search on this I didn't find him going quicker than 10.49 in anyone's car with a stock shortblock.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:13 PM   #4
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That is still pretty good, I want to chase after this.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:16 PM   #5
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I've been wanting to see how fast I can go on a stock short block as well, but finding one in good shape is hard to do. Finding one people don't want a ton of money for is even harder.

Didnt George (o2h2o) go 10.7 on a stock motor?
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:23 AM   #6
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Xdrian went 10.7@134mph with his stock long block 07 Sti block.
I went 10.8@132mph with my stock 04 long block

Think Georgie (o2h20) went 10.6

Roly is somewere down in the 10.3-4 range
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:25 AM   #7
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I've been wanting to see how fast I can go on a stock short block as well, but finding one in good shape is hard to do. Finding one people don't want a ton of money for is even harder.

Didnt George (o2h2o) go 10.7 on a stock motor?

Just buy a stock block, give Dave@headgames the heads and be a happy camper.
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Old 08-31-2012, 10:28 AM   #8
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Xdrian went 10.7@134mph with his stock long block 07 Sti block.
I went 10.8@132mph with my stock 04 long block

Think Georgie (o2h20) went 10.6

Roly is somewere down in the 10.3-4 range
Is there a thread and timeslip confirming Roly ever did better than 10.49 on a supposed stock shortblock?


I made this thread when I tuned my 96 Impreza time attack build on a stock shortblock the other night. It's a totally stock shortblock from Subaru, straight out of a Subaru box, unaltered in any way. Some suspension parts we were supplied were made wrong and we have a way to go designing and making aero bits so I figured I might as well do something with the car in the meantime.

Hopefully I'll go to the strip next week. We just have some odds and ends to tie up before then. I'm not willing to do something I feel will break the stock shortblock to break the record so I stopped tuning at 21 psi. I'll be running Toyos, not slicks, so I can't expect a great 60 foot time, and I have a stock 06 STI trans. so I need to use 5 gears, but I'll give the record a shot. Then someone can take more risk and run more power on the stock shortblock, run DOT or full slicks, and bump my time (if I break the record).
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:16 PM   #9
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i went 11.2/127 in a with a stock sti clutch and shortblock, full weight no launch control, lots of camber and toe in (road race car), 360 treadware crap tires, just a 30r .82 perrin kit w supporting mods and c16

from what Ive seen, with this small of a turbo on full weight, thats pretty impressive IMO
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:43 PM   #10
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Jr, what kind of power/mph do you think the stock bottom end is capable of?

If I could figure out a way to squeeze 135mph out of one, I think I have a realistic shot of getting one into the 9's.
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Think Georgie (o2h20) went 10.6

Roly is somewere down in the 10.3-4 range

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If it's proven give us a link and some info.

Md05STI I feel I made enough power at 21 psi to trap over 135 mph. We shall see.
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If it's proven give us a link and some info.

Md05STI I feel I made enough power at 21 psi to trap over 135 mph. We shall see.
What does your 96 weight though? My car is probably around 3100 or so with me in it, im gonna assume your cars probably a little bit lighter then mine so i will have to make a little more power then you.
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Yup I'm lighter, but I'll be leaving my big wing etc. on and camber etc. will be in normal time attack mode. I made 526 wheel HP at 21 psi. I can make more at that boost level, but I left fuel and timing safe and I'd rather turn the boost up a little if I need more jam. We got most of the to do list on the car done today so I should be at the track next Friday.
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Old 08-31-2012, 04:59 PM   #15
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Yup I'm lighter, but I'll be leaving my big wing etc. on and camber etc. will be in normal time attack mode. I made 526 wheel HP at 21 psi. I can make more at that boost level, but I left fuel and timing safe and I'd rather turn the boost up a little if I need more jam. We got most of the to do list on the car done today so I should be at the track next Friday.
What turbo? Im guessing a 62mm of some sort
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Is there a thread and timeslip confirming Roly ever did better than 10.49 on a supposed stock shortblock?


I made this thread when I tuned my 96 Impreza time attack build on a stock shortblock the other night. It's a totally stock shortblock from Subaru, straight out of a Subaru box, unaltered in any way. Some suspension parts we were supplied were made wrong and we have a way to go designing and making aero bits so I figured I might as well do something with the car in the meantime.

Hopefully I'll go to the strip next week. We just have some odds and ends to tie up before then. I'm not willing to do something I feel will break the stock shortblock to break the record so I stopped tuning at 21 psi. I'll be running Toyos, not slicks, so I can't expect a great 60 foot time, and I have a stock 06 STI trans. so I need to use 5 gears, but I'll give the record a shot. Then someone can take more risk and run more power on the stock shortblock, run DOT or full slicks, and bump my time (if I break the record).

The video is on youtube, the pic of the slip and car are on here somewhere. I cant find it though.


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i went 11.2/127 in a with a stock sti clutch and shortblock, full weight no launch control, lots of camber and toe in (road race car), 360 treadware crap tires, just a 30r .82 perrin kit w supporting mods and c16

from what Ive seen, with this small of a turbo on full weight, thats pretty impressive IMO
Yea that is what Georgie was running, 30r and went 10.7 on it.

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Jr, what kind of power/mph do you think the stock bottom end is capable of?

If I could figure out a way to squeeze 135mph out of one, I think I have a realistic shot of getting one into the 9's.
600whp and 135-140mph depending on the weight of the car. I went 108 1/8th with my XT and the stock motor. The down fall will the possibility 2step and ffs cranking a ring land.

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If it's proven give us a link and some info.

Md05STI I feel I made enough power at 21 psi to trap over 135 mph. We shall see.
That thing has to be 22-2300lbs to trap 135mph with 21psi, unless you have a 42r or something big on it
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Jason's drag car weighs more than that and traps 140 at 20-22 psi. I feel I can get within a few tenths of his time at a similar boost level.

I won't be flat shifting and I'll set the 2 step for a mild fuel cut. No antilag. I agree it's not worth risking that stuff on the stock engine.

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Old 08-31-2012, 08:25 PM   #18
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Xdrian went 10.7@134mph with his stock long block 07 Sti block.
I went 10.8@132mph with my stock 04 long block

Think Georgie (o2h20) went 10.6

Roly is somewere down in the 10.3-4 range
Yea we went 10.6 at 136-138 multiple times. Untouched long block. I think it was at 530 hp. Old 35r 1000cc injectors clutch and hydra ems. We also went 10.8 with a 30r at 475hp. All that was on q16 gas.
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Yea we went 10.6 at 136-138 multiple times. Untouched long block. I think it was at 530 hp. Old 35r 1000cc injectors clutch and hydra ems. We also went 10.8 with a 30r at 475hp. All that was on q16 gas.
@ like 3400lbs
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yep georgie ran some great times and q16 was like a poor mans vp import but was still pretty impressive and expensive.
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Is there a thread and timeslip confirming Roly ever did better than 10.49 on a supposed stock shortblock?


I made this thread when I tuned my 96 Impreza time attack build on a stock shortblock the other night. It's a totally stock shortblock from Subaru, straight out of a Subaru box, unaltered in any way. Some suspension parts we were supplied were made wrong and we have a way to go designing and making aero bits so I figured I might as well do something with the car in the meantime.

Hopefully I'll go to the strip next week. We just have some odds and ends to tie up before then. I'm not willing to do something I feel will break the stock shortblock to break the record so I stopped tuning at 21 psi. I'll be running Toyos, not slicks, so I can't expect a great 60 foot time, and I have a stock 06 STI trans. so I need to use 5 gears, but I'll give the record a shot. Then someone can take more risk and run more power on the stock shortblock, run DOT or full slicks, and bump my time (if I break the record).
No better time than 10.49@129 with my STOCK LONGBLOCK If I ran that time with my daily car, engine with 88k miles on it with only 475whp on 3.0R I don't doubt that you can beat this record with any other thing
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So many different variations I don't see the point. Here you may have one car full weight and then maybe another that's a tin can doing the same.
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No better time than 10.49@129 with my STOCK LONGBLOCK If I ran that time with my daily car, engine with 88k miles on it with only 475whp on 3.0R I don't doubt that you can beat this record with any other thing

does this mean it wasn't a full weight gd sti?

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Reading some of these responses has me hungry! I just sent Junior logs of my stock longblock around 24psi gt3582/e85

*sits impatiently*
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Jason's drag car weighs more than that and traps 140 at 20-22 psi. I feel I can get within a few tenths of his time at a similar boost level.

I won't be flat shifting and I'll set the 2 step for a mild fuel cut. No antilag. I agree it's not worth risking that stuff on the stock engine.

well if your sti weighs 3300lbs+ i feel your gonna need at least 100 more hp then his gc8.
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