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Old 08-31-2012, 08:18 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I've been out of commission for a few days.. my car won't start. Won't even crank.

Tried jumping the car, no go. Tried a new starter, no go either. The car doesn't crank... all you hear when you flip the ignition switch is a click click click that slowly fades away and a crickle sort of electric sound. I've called a mechanic friend of mine and he said to check the clutch foot pedal switch to see if it was fine. It is. I have No idea what else it could be. He's coming over tomorrow. Any ideas?

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Old 08-31-2012, 10:47 PM   #2
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If the clutch safety switch was bad, there would be no current to the starter. Check your battery-to-starter cables, sometimes they corrode from the inside. Wiggle them around. Check voltage at the starter. Could be the starter solenoid died, I've read that you can tap the starter lightly with a hammer. Not sure what that does, but some have said it works. I have never needed to do that, so take it for what it's worth.
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Old 08-31-2012, 11:31 PM   #3
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If the clutch safety switch was bad, there would be no current to the starter. Check your battery-to-starter cables, sometimes they corrode from the inside. Wiggle them around. Check voltage at the starter. Could be the starter solenoid died, I've read that you can tap the starter lightly with a hammer. Not sure what that does, but some have said it works. I have never needed to do that, so take it for what it's worth.
Thanks, I already tried hitting the starter a little bit and doesn't really work. But I'll try the wiggling of the cables tomorrow see if it works... any other ideas?
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Old 08-31-2012, 11:55 PM   #4
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If the clutch safety switch was bad, there would be no current to the starter. Check your battery-to-starter cables, sometimes they corrode from the inside. Wiggle them around. Check voltage at the starter. Could be the starter solenoid died, I've read that you can tap the starter lightly with a hammer. Not sure what that does, but some have said it works. I have never needed to do that, so take it for what it's worth.
Wouldn't be a starter sol since he put a new starter on. By taping on out while cranking it'll free up a failing/sticking starter.

Question...when you turn your key on(dont actually try to start it.) Did all your bells and whistles come on as they should? If not then it's a problem with your battery or wiring. Let us know....
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:05 AM   #5
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Wouldn't be a starter sol since he put a new starter on. By taping on out while cranking it'll free up a failing/sticking starter.

Question...when you turn your key on(dont actually try to start it.) Did all your bells and whistles come on as they should? If not then it's a problem with your battery or wiring. Let us know....
Everything works like normal, windows, radio, lights, etc. When I turn the key, the cluster does its normal opening ceremony whoosh... when I go to turn it on... it goes click click click...and then slowly fading away until it stops clicking.... somebody mentioned to me if I heard the FI system wiring up when I turn the key.... and I dont remember if my car used to make the wreeeeeeeeeeeeee when prepping the car....
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:18 AM   #6
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Here's a video of it... the more you try the more fade it goes... but then after 10 mins itll return to normal and same thing...


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Everything works like normal, windows, radio, lights, etc. When I turn the key, the cluster does its normal opening ceremony whoosh... when I go to turn it on... it goes click click click...and then slowly fading away until it stops clicking.... somebody mentioned to me if I heard the FI system wiring up when I turn the key.... and I dont remember if my car used to make the wreeeeeeeeeeeeee when prepping the car....
That's normal noise. If your pump was out it would try to crank just not fire. I'm on my phone so I can't tell but is it a auto or manual? Double check your connections at the starter.
Just to make sure I understand...it was doin this same thing before you changed the starter right.
Now I do work at a parts store and its rare but I have seen new starters be bad. Check wire and power first. If all is good take the starter out and take in to test it. If you do that have them test it more than once if it passes.
Hope this helps some good luck
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:21 AM   #8
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That's odd and def not normal. Try disconnecting your battery for 10 min then try again

Edit...you don't have a remote start on it do you
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:24 AM   #9
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manual and here's the youtube link:

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Old 09-01-2012, 12:25 AM   #10
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manual and here's the youtube link:

Video Link: http://youtu.be/DYBP55EyopE
Thanks...got it to work...

From my experience you def have electrical prob. If you cannot get it straight tonight, I got a couple ppl I can ask tomm. I'm in mi so it's 1230am right now
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:27 AM   #11
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That's odd and def not normal. Try disconnecting your battery for 10 min then try again

Edit...you don't have a remote start on it do you
No I do not... It is the oddest thing that has happen to me in a car...
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:29 AM   #12
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Thanks...got it to work...

From my experience you def have electrical prob. If you cannot get it straight tonight, I got a couple ppl I can ask tomm. I'm in mi so it's 1230am right now
Im in FL, it's also 12:30... it's just frustrasting... my baby is in a coma to think I was beating porsches at autox and speedtrials three weeks ago and now it wont even start... :/

and I'd appreciate your help
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:34 AM   #13
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Im in FL, it's also 12:30... it's just frustrasting... my baby is in a coma to think I was beating porsches at autox and speedtrials three weeks ago and now it wont even start... :/

and I'd appreciate your help
Lol I kno the feeling of your car not working. Have patience. For tonight disconnect the battery and meter the wire if you can. If that doesn't work give her a hug, tell her it'll all be ok and go to bed. Haha I've found if you sleep on it you'll figure out the prob the next day quick and easy. Frustration makes you miss little things.
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:35 AM   #14
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Lol I kno the feeling of your car not working. Have patience. For tonight disconnect the battery and meter the wire if you can. If that doesn't work give her a hug, tell her it'll all be ok and go to bed. Haha I've found if you sleep on it you'll figure out the prob the next day quick and easy. Frustration makes you miss little things.
I dont have a meter on me, but I'll get one in the morning. I'll disconnect the battery and try again in the morn. I'll hit you up through here and let me know if you find anything out. thanks again for the help
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I dont have a meter on me, but I'll get one in the morning. I'll disconnect the battery and try again in the morn. I'll hit you up through here and let me know if you find anything out. thanks again for the help
Not a prob. G ood luck
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Not a prob. G ood luck
I'm going outside to reconnect the battery and cable. See if anything changes. Any hints or updates from your side?
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Old 09-01-2012, 11:52 AM   #17
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Have you tried disconnecting both battery cables, holding the positive and negative together to remove any residual power from the system (which should reset the PCM, BCM ect.)? Could also be an ignition switch problem, stop me if I'm wrong about any of this people.. I worked on GM's for four years professionally until the economy collapsed and I just got my OBS last month so I'm not too familiar with the electrical systems on these. But holding the battery cables together for 10 secs is where I'd start.
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Have you tried disconnecting both battery cables, holding the positive and negative together to remove any residual power from the system (which should reset the PCM, BCM ect.)? Could also be an ignition switch problem, stop me if I'm wrong about any of this people.. I worked on GM's for four years professionally until the economy collapsed and I just got my OBS last month so I'm not too familiar with the electrical systems on these. But holding the battery cables together for 10 secs is where I'd start.
I would not touch them together. No need for that. Just disconnect is all.

OP... Driving now to see my dad. Gonna let him watch the video. Let you know
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Hey my dad watched the video. Hrs thinking you got something computer related going on. Your ecm let's you try to start it a few times but then shuts the car down for a.while when it doesn't start. He's saying be real careful with how many times you try to start it. Ive asked others just waiting to hear back
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Based on the video and your description you have poor connections at the battery and possibly a bad battery/dead cell. There is also a small chance a shorted rectifier in the alternator has run the battery down but that is fairly rare.

Take your terminals off the battery and clean both the battery posts and the inside the terminals. Clean any crud off the terminals and make sure the nut on the + terminal wires are tight. Reconnect the terminals and tighten until you cannot twist the terminals on the battery post by hand.

Try to jump the car and see if it will start. If it still won't turn over replace the battery. Either way once you get it running have someone run a full battery, charging, starting diagnostic to make sure your ok.
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Op here ready to return the fix.

Ready for this? Starter was fine, battery and cables were fine.

Took the battery to auto zone, had it checked and The battery was suddenly so low that it would only give charge to the accessory that needed the less energy. Battery was at 102ccai and its suppose to be at 500ccai.

Charged it fully with a supreme charger, put it in, car roars. Works like miracle.

The guy at auto zone says that it was so low that it would have taken 3 cars jumping to get it to work. Ask glory goes to God. Thanks everyone
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Op here ready to return the fix.

Ready for this? Starter was fine, battery and cables were fine.

Took the battery to auto zone, had it checked and The battery was suddenly so low that it would only give charge to the accessory that needed the less energy. Battery was at 102ccai and its suppose to be at 500ccai.

Charged it fully with a supreme charger, put it in, car roars. Works like miracle.

The guy at auto zone says that it was so low that it would have taken 3 cars jumping to get it to work. Ask glory goes to God. Thanks everyone
Congrats man glad ur back up and running.
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Based on the video and your description you have poor connections at the battery and possibly a bad battery/dead cell. There is also a small chance a shorted rectifier in the alternator has run the battery down but that is fairly rare.

Take your terminals off the battery and clean both the battery posts and the inside the terminals. Clean any crud off the terminals and make sure the nut on the + terminal wires are tight. Reconnect the terminals and tighten until you cannot twist the terminals on the battery post by hand.

Try to jump the car and see if it will start. If it still won't turn over replace the battery. Either way once you get it running have someone run a full battery, charging, starting diagnostic to make sure your ok.
Well one he already said it wont jump start. And two if it was a battery the bells and whistles and chimes wouldn't come on.
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Based on the video and your description you have poor connections at the battery and possibly a bad battery/dead cell. There is also a small chance a shorted rectifier in the alternator has run the battery down but that is fairly rare.

Take your terminals off the battery and clean both the battery posts and the inside the terminals. Clean any crud off the terminals and make sure the nut on the + terminal wires are tight. Reconnect the terminals and tighten until you cannot twist the terminals on the battery post by hand.

Try to jump the car and see if it will start. If it still won't turn over replace the battery. Either way once you get it running have someone run a full battery, charging, starting diagnostic to make sure your ok.
Well one he already said it wont jump start. And two if it was a battery the bells and whistles and chimes wouldn't come on.
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You still haven't fixed the original issue, what caused your battery to die in the first place?
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