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Old 07-14-2012, 05:08 PM   #1
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All i know is the motor is jdm wrx Year 2000

The price im getting it for is 1450$ complete motor with turbo and downpipe and even the transmission. Let me know if this is a good deal.

Im fixing the car before i move to sweden and giving the car to my parents.

What do i need to know for this swap into my 2002 wrx. Help me please.

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Okay so i purchased the motor, its a my00 and from a wrx. I cant find anything online about this motor, I keep seeing mixed post, so someone clear this up, Jdm ej205 has higher CR then usdm, also are cams the same? Or are the pistons the same as usdm, does jdm have rod bearing issues too? Or what about rods are they the same as usdm or are they stronger.

So i did more research and found this wiki page,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_...eration)#Japan

And so i thought for some reason had a v6 engine, but then i looked at pictures and yea can you help me verify this? Here is a pic http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/003hib.jpg/ i cant add more pics since im in texas atm thanks everyone

So! I think i got hell of a deal!! 1450 for engine and tranny thats a v7! Oh and he threw in a version 6 sti intercooler for 100$ so in all i got a sweet deal! I think the reason behind the low price was that they thought it was a v6 wrx engine. Not sure
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Old 07-14-2012, 05:16 PM   #2
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you dont want to use anything but the block on any pre 2002 if your parents are using it.

you are probably working with an ej20g that will take astronomical work to get in the car cleanly, and it won't be any better for your parents than a stock engine from 2002+
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:01 PM   #3
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Actually if it's a 2000 or 2001 jdm engine it would work. 2000 you'd need to swap over the intake manifold and I think the cam and crank gears.

I'm guessing it's really older though and a G or K.
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:55 PM   #4
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Here is the best picture i could find that he sent me. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/003hib.jpg/. Oh car would get tuned if this motor goes in and wouldnt want avsc. Would it hook up to the ecu? Its been awhile since i done this research.
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Old 07-14-2012, 09:27 PM   #5
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Here is the best picture i could find that he sent me. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/003hib.jpg/. Oh car would get tuned if this motor goes in and wouldnt want avsc. Would it hook up to the ecu? Its been awhile since i done this research.
Looks like an EJ205. I can't quite tell if it has avcs from that pic. Looks like no.

At worse you would have to swap over the intake manifold if things are different. No big deal.

Better pics would help
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:02 AM   #6
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Just use the long block and swap the intake manifold from your own WRX. This is a AVCS engine, I can tell form the extra breather on the valve covers.

You can just leave the AVCS disconnected it will work fine. No need to swap crankshaft sprocket either.

Good luck!
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:51 AM   #7
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Good thing i still have my intake manifold and didnt sell it lets hope i can get it in time. Is 1450 with the intercool for this whole package with transmission a good deal? Is this transmission a direct swap or stronger then usdm wrx, also how much could i resell this transmission for?

Also for this engine would the wiring be a direct plug and play with my wiring harness? Except of coarse the avcs. Thanks for the info guys
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:53 AM   #8
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Just swap the intake manifold with the engine wiring harness still on it and everything will plug in.

I believe the transmission will be a 4.44 and not the same as your wrx. You'd have to heck the codes to be sure. If it is you'd need a matching 4.44 rear diff to use it.
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:46 AM   #9
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Awesome, i sent a email asking for block code and for transmission code also turbo. Il post them up once i get them.
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Old 07-16-2012, 05:23 AM   #10
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Transmission definately won't fit due to the different final drive ratio. 1450 seems like a good deal for the complete package.
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:33 PM   #11
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Awesome man, bank said loan should pass, do you guys happen to know how many cc the injectors are on this? Oh and Marnix il be moving to sweden so il be near you, im actually also in the market for a skyline gtr if you know a good website for it let me know. I found one that will import it and do registration but maybe you know another oh and maybe this isnt the place to be asking this but if the injectors are 550cc can i can a tune on e85? With just stock parts? Or would they be maxed out. I wouldnt want a race tune e85 just something that would be alittle better then pump stock. Get what i mean?
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Old 07-17-2012, 12:25 AM   #12
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Injectors are same as stock USDM EJ205 WRX injectors (I think 380cc).

I believe importing cars into Sweden can be VERY expensive due to local tax rules.
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i see AVCS. there is an oil hardline coming over the top of the timing belt cover, dual breathers on the valve cover, and the offset/angled flange of the oil filler neck.

as people have said, swap over the longblock and keep all our original intake/wiring/sensors. you can run the car with the AVCS disconnected with no penalty as mentioned. also i strongly recommend getting a protune since there are going to be minor differences between this engine and the stock usdm engine that you want to make sure are accounted for. hell, you could get maybe even get a few horsepower out of the deal too
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:35 AM   #14
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Injectors are same as stock USDM EJ205 WRX injectors (I think 380cc).

I believe importing cars into Sweden can be VERY expensive due to local tax rules.
Nah i checked the prices and they arnt that bad. i already know the prices just looking for websites.

And to the other guy, of coarse im getting a pro tune and from what people are telling me i only need to swap over the intake manifold which i still have. I dont have the engine wiring anymore.
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:41 AM   #15
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http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/8923/img00031p.jpg

This is a pic of the intake manifold i have i sold the wiring attached to it. Will i need it or will it still be plug and play and just leave the avc disconnected?

Update. I searched and searched and i found The question i was looking for about the engine harness. Infact the question was answered by one of you so here is my question, do i just need the engine harness or do i need the sensors that they attach to also? I believe i still have the sensors.. Il check the garage when i head over to parents house. Thanks again for everything

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Old 07-21-2012, 02:33 AM   #16
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Bump, read first post.
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:32 PM   #17
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you really should look at the valve cover engine code before you get your hopes up
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Again, it is a post 2000 GDA WRX engine with single AVCS. Compression 9:0 (piston has no dish). Due to the AVCS the cams are different. You can run the longblock on your own manifold/harness and if you sold the harness well that was a mistake. You might be able to run the JDM harness on the manifold but you will have to check wiring diagrams.

The rods, bearings are all the same for these engines so tuning it will be hairy due to the higher compression ratio. Is OK for stock boost levels but run decent fuel.
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Again, it is a post 2000 GDA WRX engine with single AVCS. Compression 9:0 (piston has no dish). Due to the AVCS the cams are different. You can run the longblock on your own manifold/harness and if you sold the harness well that was a mistake. You might be able to run the JDM harness on the manifold but you will have to check wiring diagrams.

The rods, bearings are all the same for these engines so tuning it will be hairy due to the higher compression ratio. Is OK for stock boost levels but run decent fuel.
Thank you! Anyways i already purchased a engine harness and its on its way. I bolted up the engine and everything clicked together perfect. All im waiting for is the engine harness and downpipe to turbo gasket. Already made a appointment for next week thursday to get tuned. We have 93 fuel but more common 91 here. We also have one store with 95 but its 20% ethanol.

Thank you all thou for who replied il get a video running once its done!
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usdm injectors are 440cc
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Old 08-11-2012, 01:48 PM   #21
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Do you happen to know what size are the jdm ej205?
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Same.
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Old 08-13-2012, 11:08 PM   #23
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Lots of confusing info givin here
U can run it as is, in any USDM pre 2006 wrx, harness will plug in play , the biggest obstacle will be the cam sensor signal
USDM uses the 1 on the d/s head , the JDM uses 2, 1 on the back side of each head.( avcs motors only) which this def is.
Solution : Cosworth POS cam bracket , it'll need to be shimmed to work properly .
No need to swap intake manifolds as they are both DBC
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I Wish i would of knew that before .... Would of saved the jdm harness and 50$ haha..
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