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Old 02-07-2015, 12:40 AM   #1
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I own a 2004 WRX (stage 2) with 165,000 miles. I just bought this car about 7-8 months ago and now i am compensating whether it was a good idea or not. It is having boost fluctuation issues, eating oil, and is just plain scary sometimes. Sell it or rebuild it? I would love to rebuild it but i am in high school still so it would be tough. I was just wanting to hear what you guys would do and why.
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Old 02-07-2015, 08:05 AM   #2
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Well, you're in high school. And likely don't have the money for a rebuild, so that would make your decision pretty easy. That said, we don't really make these decisions for people. You're not me. I love the 04/05 body style. And if it were me and had the money, I would rebuild. But I also make a hell of a lot more than you do, what with having been working a full time professional job as opposed to being in high school.

Why don't you ask your parents what's more fiscally responsible. And/or ask them if they'll pay for it. And the latter happens, don't tell us.
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Old 02-07-2015, 08:18 AM   #3
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Sell it and buy an 06-11 Civic Si.

It's just as fast, handles better, and you'll never have reliability problems again.
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Old 02-07-2015, 09:53 AM   #4
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Since you are in high school, see if you could make a deal with your parents to match what you will put down on a brand new car when you graduate?
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Old 02-07-2015, 09:55 AM   #5
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Or just grow the hell up and buy your own sh**
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Old 02-07-2015, 10:03 AM   #6
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Or just grow the hell up and buy your own sh**
Easy there, sunshine.

OP is in High School, he is not supposed to be a full blown adult yet.

And you have no idea how he paid for his car. The fact that he's being responsible and realistic about the repairs suggests your hate filled comments are extremely misplaced.

Furthermore, I, and most other people, don't see anything wrong with parents buying a cheap, 10+ year old car for their high schooler.
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Old 02-07-2015, 10:21 AM   #7
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...now i am compensating whether it was a good idea or not...
I love that sentence.


And no, a 06-11 Civic SI is not "just as fast" as a stage 2 WRX unless the latter has performance problems.

That being said, I don't think you can buy a fairly modified, 10+ year old car with 165k miles on it and expect it to be trouble free... if you can't afford to maintain the car, you can't afford the car - my advice would be to sell it and get something more in line with what you really want.
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Old 02-07-2015, 10:30 AM   #8
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The 06-11 Si weighs like 200-300lbs less, and with equal mods (I/H/E/T), makes the same whp as a stage 2 2.0L.

Stock for stock is the same deal.

There is no question, it is absolutely as fast. And it is in fact faster in every way but launching.
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Old 02-07-2015, 10:36 AM   #9
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AWD or RWD all day....

I've had a fair amount of FWD cars and once you go RWD or AWD, then you really never want to go back...but that's just me.

First car was an 99 Acura Integra RS, then a 92 Civic, then a 90 Civic, then a 03 S2000, then a 05 G35, and now a 04 STi, and hopefully a 2015 (maybe 2016) STi when I graduate and get my bachelor's in October.

See the trend
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Old 02-07-2015, 10:48 AM   #10
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Easy there, sunshine.

OP is in High School, he is not supposed to be a full blown adult yet.

And you have no idea how he paid for his car. The fact that he's being responsible and realistic about the repairs suggests your hate filled comments are extremely misplaced.

Furthermore, I, and most other people, don't see anything wrong with parents buying a cheap, 10+ year old car for their high schooler.
You may be completely right and he bought it on his own dime but I highly doubt it. No high schooler has 5k sitting around for a beat up wrx. My bet is that the parents paid for it and now he's regretting his purchase because the po beat the cap out of it. And your version of a cheap car and mine are completely different. I bought my first car with my own money for 600 bucks and it ran perfectly. It's all about the give me attitude of today. People see something that they want and just say give me that now. I will slow my role when parents treat there kids the way they should.
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Old 02-07-2015, 10:57 AM   #11
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You may be completely right and he bought it on his own dime but I highly doubt it. No high schooler has 5k sitting around for a beat up wrx. My bet is that the parents paid for it and now he's regretting his purchase because the po beat the cap out of it. And your version of a cheap car and mine are completely different. I bought my first car with my own money for 600 bucks and it ran perfectly. It's all about the give me attitude of today. People see something that they want and just say give me that now. I will slow my role when parents treat there kids the way they should.
Not all kids are like that. Some parents don't mind supporting their children as long as their children don't act like immature douchebags and as long as their children are doing something with their life instead of just wasting it.
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Old 02-07-2015, 11:00 AM   #12
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Not all kids are like that. Some parents don't mind supporting their children as long as their children don't act like immature douchebags and as long as their children are doing something with their life instead of just wasting it.
And I understand that.
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Old 02-07-2015, 11:02 AM   #13
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I own a 2004 WRX (stage 2) with 165,000 miles. I just bought this car about 7-8 months ago and now i am compensating whether it was a good idea or not. It is having boost fluctuation issues, eating oil, and is just plain scary sometimes. Sell it or rebuild it? I would love to rebuild it but i am in high school still so it would be tough. I was just wanting to hear what you guys would do and why.
WAT?

Contemplating, not compensating.

Ask your parents what to do. The internet cannot tell you what to do.
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Old 02-07-2015, 11:03 AM   #14
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And I understand that.
Yet at the same time you say you know that isn't the case with OP, and that he abused his car and wants instant gratification.

You're certifiably crazy.
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:03 PM   #15
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Yet at the same time you say you know that isn't the case with OP, and that he abused his car and wants instant gratification.

You're certifiably crazy.
Um if you learned to read and comprehend you would see that I said po (previous owner) not current owner. Him being the current owner.
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:10 PM   #16
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WAT?

Contemplating, not compensating.

Ask your parents what to do. The internet cannot tell you what to do.
Why can't he get advice on the internet? I keep seeing the mods say this, and lock threads for no good reason.

A huge group of car guys, with a ton of mechanical, financial, and life experience are exactly who you want to discuss this sort of thing with.

It's not like he's asking us to pick a color, or what wheels he should buy.

He's listed a clear set of circumstances with two potential routes, and asked for advice.
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:22 PM   #17
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I own a 2004 WRX (stage 2) with 165,000 miles. I just bought this car about 7-8 months ago and now i am compensating whether it was a good idea or not. It is having boost fluctuation issues, eating oil, and is just plain scary sometimes. Sell it or rebuild it? I would love to rebuild it but i am in high school still so it would be tough. I was just wanting to hear what you guys would do and why.
Sell the car. You have the first signs of a car that's been abused in the past and is about to hit that "wall of expenses" where it is screaming at you "if you don't have $10k to throw at me, get rid of me now". You will be contemplating whether the car should be cut up for scrap or sold whole to the junk yard if you wait.



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Why can't he get advice on the internet? I keep seeing the mods say this, and lock threads for no good reason.

A huge group of car guys, with a ton of mechanical, financial, and life experience are exactly who you want to discuss this sort of thing with.

It's not like he's asking us to pick a color, or what wheels he should buy.

He's listed a clear set of circumstances with two potential routes, and asked for advice.

No need to close this. I might delete half your posts.....like I often do....
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Old 02-07-2015, 03:05 PM   #18
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Stock for stock is the same deal.
Oh - so you meant go buy a modified Civic SI, but didn't say that so I was supposed to use some sort of ESP to sort that out - gotcha.

I think if you can't afford to fix things when they break, don't buy a high mileage modified car (or even just a modified car, for that matter...)
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Old 02-07-2015, 03:09 PM   #19
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Oh - so you meant go buy a modified Civic SI, but didn't say that so I was supposed to use some sort of ESP to sort that out - gotcha.

I think if you can't afford to fix things when they break, don't buy a high mileage modified car (or even just a modified car, for that matter...)
No, I don't recommend buying any car that's been modified.
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Old 02-07-2015, 04:28 PM   #20
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High school huh? Go pick up a manual and take that sucker into your autoshop and get to work. Have mom and dad help out with the cost of parts and your autoshop teacher SHOULD be knowledgeable enough to make sure you don't completely eff up your car.


Unless you don't have an autoshop class?
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Old 02-07-2015, 04:44 PM   #21
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High school huh? Go pick up a manual and take that sucker into your autoshop and get to work. Have mom and dad help out with the cost of parts and your autoshop teacher SHOULD be knowledgeable enough to make sure you don't completely eff up your car.


Unless you don't have an autoshop class?
^^ Agreed
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Old 02-07-2015, 04:55 PM   #22
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High school huh? Go pick up a manual and take that sucker into your autoshop and get to work. Have mom and dad help out with the cost of parts and your autoshop teacher SHOULD be knowledgeable enough to make sure you don't completely eff up your car.


Unless you don't have an autoshop class?

That is a good point. OP.... Google is your friend and there are plenty of DIYs you can find online. That's what I did when I worked on my G35 at the base auto hobby shop since I didn't want to pay a ridiculous amount on labor.
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Old 02-07-2015, 06:17 PM   #23
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You may be completely right and he bought it on his own dime but I highly doubt it. No high schooler has 5k sitting around for a beat up wrx. My bet is that the parents paid for it and now he's regretting his purchase because the po beat the cap out of it. And your version of a cheap car and mine are completely different. I bought my first car with my own money for 600 bucks and it ran perfectly. It's all about the give me attitude of today. People see something that they want and just say give me that now. I will slow my role when parents treat there kids the way they should.
I wouldn't be too sure about that. By the time I was a senior I had over 40k saved up. Most of it was put towards tuition for University and had some left over to budget for my first car (08 2.5i). The car was more than i wanted to pay for my first car (my father wouldn't let me get something over 5 years old and over 100k km for some reason), but I was able to pay for it myself (he did pay taxes for me because my marks in high school were good and I thanked him profusely for it). I am extremely lucky I work in the field I do because I would never be able to pay for school or a car if I didn't, but all I'm trying to say is don't assume things about people. Everyone assumed that since I had a newer car in HS my parents bought it for me, but in reality I busted my ass off to be able to pay for it. I feel OP could've done the same unless he says otherwise, just don't make assumptions about people you know nothing about.
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Old 02-07-2015, 06:32 PM   #24
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I wouldn't be too sure about that. By the time I was a senior I had over 40k saved up. Most of it was put towards tuition for University and had some left over to budget for my first car (08 2.5i). The car was more than i wanted to pay for my first car (my father wouldn't let me get something over 5 years old and over 100k km for some reason), but I was able to pay for it myself (he did pay taxes for me because my marks in high school were good and I thanked him profusely for it). I am extremely lucky I work in the field I do because I would never be able to pay for school or a car if I didn't, but all I'm trying to say is don't assume things about people. Everyone assumed that since I had a newer car in HS my parents bought it for me, but in reality I busted my ass off to be able to pay for it. I feel OP could've done the same unless he says otherwise, just don't make assumptions about people you know nothing about.
I understand where you are coming from but think about it. 9 times out of 10 the kids get the parent to pay for a new/new to them car. In your situation it's completely different but it rarely happens. Props to you for having the self discipline that it takes to save money at that age.
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Old 02-07-2015, 07:07 PM   #25
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I don't get some of you. I see some of you complaining in other threads that some WRX owners are kids who don't know the value of money and they parents buy them these fancy cars, etc and here we have a teenager who's posting here asking for advice (even if it's difficult to answer) and you still give him hell? C'mon guys.
I applaud Tannerberg3 for his honest post.
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