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Old 04-01-2014, 08:44 PM   #1
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Road and dyno tuning by STi Mikey. Dyno tuning preferred.

When:
Saturday May 31st - starts at 9am

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Road tune = $300 per car. Dyno tune = $395 per car.

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Please paypal your $100 non-refundable deposit to Mike Botti (Attn: Chicago Tuning Trip) mikey84botti@gmail.com

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at least 6 cars are required for the trip to happen. And at least 6 cars are needed to rent the dyno for the day.

TO BE CLEAR IF U DONT SHOW UP FOR TUNE U DO NOT GET UR DEPOSIT BACK!!!

If the trip does not happen, everyone will get their deposit back.
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Old 04-01-2014, 10:28 PM   #2
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Whats more preferred road tune or dyno tune? Also, I'm possibly looking for dual maps for 93 and E85 is that doable?
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:02 PM   #3
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Whats more preferred road tune or dyno tune? Also, I'm possibly looking for dual maps for 93 and E85 is that doable?
I'll speak on behalf of Mikey since i'm the person that usually organizes the tunes. I think in all fairness of the shop and other people, pump gas tunes can be done on the dyno and E85 tunes be completed on the street later on. Draining fuel while on the dyno can be time consuming/messy if not done properly. Each person that pays a deposit/dyno tuning should get an equal amount of time necessary for tuning. Last time we rented the dyno, some cars had issues and took up way too much time on the dyno when other cars could of been tuned. I think Proformance will charge an extra $50 to pull a car off the dyno and set it back up later on for tuning if any issues come up.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:20 PM   #4
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I'll speak on behalf of Mikey since i'm the person that usually organizes the tunes. I think in all fairness of the shop and other people, pump gas tunes can be done on the dyno and E85 tunes be completed on the street later on. Draining fuel while on the dyno can be time consuming/messy if not done properly. Each person that pays a deposit/dyno tuning should get an equal amount of time necessary for tuning. Last time we rented the dyno, some cars had issues and took up way too much time on the dyno when other cars could of been tuned. I think Proformance will charge an extra $50 to pull a car off the dyno and set it back up later on for tuning if any issues come up.
I re-read your statement about draining fuel so revised this post. I'll PM you.

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Old 04-02-2014, 10:22 PM   #5
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Dyno tuning is preferred. As Ian already stated dual fuel tunes are not really preferred on the dyno since its time consuming and a pain to drain and store the fuel.

Also, be aware that if you're running e85 you should get an e85 tester...a simple google search of "e85 tester" will yield a plethora of $10 options. Its really necessary to test the fuel since its practically impossible to drain all the gas, so whenever you switch fuels you will be running a mix of e85 and 93. Or if you're a baller you can get the zeitronix gauge for $400.

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Old 04-03-2014, 01:19 PM   #6
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I'll be making my payment in a few weeks. Need to sort out a few things on my build first.
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Old 04-03-2014, 02:31 PM   #7
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Thanks Ron! The more the merrier obviously, the shop we rent the dyno from might lower the price a touch depending on how many cars we get confirmed with deposits. They started renting it for $50/car which was almost unfair to them because of the hours we were there. Naturally, some changes had to be made, cutoff time will be 8pm for dyno tuning.
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:29 PM   #8
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Paid my deposit
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:37 PM   #9
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$395 includes the dyno rental, or $395 for the tune and additional for the dyno?

Also, who will be doing the work, and any references for them? There was a fairly infamous session where a tuner flew in for a rented shop, and the rented shop not knowing Subarus was strapping them down by the rear lateral links, and bent almost everyone's.
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Old 04-04-2014, 02:59 PM   #10
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$395 includes the dyno rental, or $395 for the tune and additional for the dyno?

Also, who will be doing the work, and any references for them? There was a fairly infamous session where a tuner flew in for a rented shop, and the rented shop not knowing Subarus was strapping them down by the rear lateral links, and bent almost everyone's.
STIMikey is doing the tuning, if you search his name I'm sure you'll find him he's pretty famous in the tuning world I guess. 395 is the dyno tune.
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:00 PM   #11
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I get that STI Mikey is doing the tuning - he has good references, but generally the tuner is not running the dyno, strapping down the car, etc. I'm curious who that will be, and their references. Also, it's pretty normal for minor issues to get dug up (or happen) during tuning, so having/knowing the mechanics at hand and what they can do is important.

Sucks to burn your dyno time/deposit because of something silly like having a turbo inlet that won't stay on, but not having the necessary tools/clamps/etc at hand to take care of it.
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:23 PM   #12
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ah I see, in that case I'm not sure. but I'm sure someone will be on hand for that stuff. I'll ask subian
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:35 PM   #13
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$395 includes the dyno rental, or $395 for the tune and additional for the dyno?

Also, who will be doing the work, and any references for them? There was a fairly infamous session where a tuner flew in for a rented shop, and the rented shop not knowing Subarus was strapping them down by the rear lateral links, and bent almost everyone's.
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I get that STI Mikey is doing the tuning - he has good references, but generally the tuner is not running the dyno, strapping down the car, etc. I'm curious who that will be, and their references. Also, it's pretty normal for minor issues to get dug up (or happen) during tuning, so having/knowing the mechanics at hand and what they can do is important.

Sucks to burn your dyno time/deposit because of something silly like having a turbo inlet that won't stay on, but not having the necessary tools/clamps/etc at hand to take care of it.
I thought Ron make the post pretty clear. $300 is Mikey's flat-rate for tuning, $95 is the dyno rental fee that gets paid at the end. Proformance will have a tech on hand to strap the cars on/off the dyno. Mikey will be in the driver's seat for the tuning. We've used Proformance a few times in the past with no issues on their end. You should come prepared to a dyno tuning day with no mechanical issues/leaks.

If for some reason something were to happen while the car is on the dyno that couldn't be easily fixed (Turbo inlet coupler) they'll have to pull the car off the dyno and get it addressed. Don't assume that they'll do the work free of charge since we're renting the dyno. They're usually pretty accommodating to us in the past about borrowing tools, but they will charge $50 to re-strap the car back on the dyno to finish tuning.

Usually the owner Ted will be there with another tech to help him out as well. They're more involved in the domestic performance market, but also have a Subaru shop car.
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:43 PM   #14
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No, of course you should bring the car in without mechanical issues to the best of your knowledge. We all know that tuning likes to discover lots of little anomalies though, just the nature of the beast.

Of course it wouldn't be expected to be diagnosed/repaired for free, but we all know there's little things that can/do go wrong regularly while a car is on the dyno. Having it at a reputable Subaru shop that knows the ins and outs of annoying Subaru bits like turbo studs when pulling a downpipe because a wastegate is misbehaving, or the signs of an inlet that is only leaking under pressure, etc can be important if you're putting down non-refundable moneys. Especially for a tuner who is only in for a weekend, and you can't exactly just bring it back next week.

Have you considered talking to one of the local shops and seeing if one of their mechanics would like to come hang out? I've never been to a dyno day where someone hasn't had something repairable fail. Pretty safe bet for making some side $.

$0.02 - I'd really like to get a tune done for the spec.B, but I'm overly picky with who I trust to work on it.
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The only issue i've seen since we've been using their shop was one car with spark plug blowout from old plugs. That was one instance where the car was stuck on the dyno waiting for the plugs to be changed. We can't really have that happen again this time around. Like I said before, the shop is VERY familiar with forced induction vehicles and they have a Subaru shop car. Here's a link to their facebook page, you can e-mail/call the shop with any questions. They also make you sign a waiver while your car gets strapped down on a dyno.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Profo...44545578936170

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So, it looks like if I give every car a two hour block of time, we only have 2 dyno spots available. The shop will stop dyno tuning at 8pm. We might be able to squeeze more cars in depending on the amount of time needed for each car. (Some cars will obviously take longer to tune than others) One more deposit is needed for Mikey to book his flight.

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Are you requiring an AP or can you do opensource?
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Are you requiring an AP or can you do opensource?
For your car, you really should get an AP. The older wrx's can get away with an opensource tune.

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We have six people on the list, just waiting for one deposit. If the last dyno slot doesn't get filled, I'll use it for my car.
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Signed up. I should be sending mikey a deposit within the week. If someone else sends one in for a dyno spot then no big deal! I'll still get road tuned!
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Signed up. I should be sending mikey a deposit within the week. If someone else sends one in for a dyno spot then no big deal! I'll still get road tuned!
Thanks Benny, should be a good time
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Looks like the dyno slots are filled for the day, if anyone still needs a tune from Mikey, it'll probably have to happen on the street later in the evening.
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Let me know if anyone backs out.
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Let me know if anyone backs out.
I'm assuming you're not comfortable with a road tune?
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We'll be working with anyone who'd like to come in and get some pre-tune services done.

Our facility is around 15-20 minutes (with traffic) from the tuning facility and due to the amount of people getting tuned not everyone will have time to get things straightened out if there's an issue...that's where we come in!

Services will start at 60 from 1-3 persons, 50 for 4-6 persons and 45 for 6+ persons.

For more details and to schedule in a date for pre-tune checkups feel free to message us and we'll be able to help you out.

Pre-tune service dates are available immediately, people from sign up will not require proof of payment, all others will require proof of scheduling and payments (unless updated prior to service).

Thank you and best of luck on your tuning ventures!

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