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Old 09-10-2012, 03:07 PM   #1
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Hello Nasioc, long time poster and classified surfer but never posted anything about my project.

Started colecting part around 1.5-2 years ago and probably got another 2-2 months before it makeing big power

Story and boring back round stuff:
got into subarus with my first car at age 16, picked up a fun beater for 500 bucks.

That was fun and all for a year but with 250+k on it and not maintain before i got it the thing was falling apart. so i purchase a 97 lgt wagon in the silver flavor and gutted, parted out the old red.


thats it for the intro post for now. the car looked like this while i save money and bought parts till about 3 months ago when i started the tear down
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:07 PM   #2
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MY original plan was to use the motor from that red lgt and swap sti internals in it and soon found out what phase 2 and phase 1 motor did and didnt have in comom.

so 50 bucks later i have myself a phase 2 open deck from a early 2000's, probably a ej251 but who the hell knows?

and I tried something new to the subaru world, diy close deck. The honda guys been doing it to b18's for awhile now with great sucess, around 18-20 pounds on those suckers and i have only read about one wall crank that was hairline. but i call bs and blame it on to much timing and knock.

Here some snaps from that process.


ruffing up the walls and jacket

pouring the platform for the devcon

super custom tool for level and consistent thinkness of deck

you get the idea?



drilled for the block bolts

and back from the machine shop with resurface, piston matched and cleaned

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Old 09-10-2012, 03:07 PM   #3
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Browsing craiglist one day under the key word turbo i found a huge lot of parts for cheap, most new and some lightly used.


just look at that nice 84mm ebay turbo with a garret oil cooled center section!



more parts not from the lot
modded red tops, 650cc dw sidefeeds


i installed and run the pp6 for a week on my stock wagon and hated it, sold with idea to go full standalone. glad i did(more on that later)

made a laptop stand...for my laptop.


moving on

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Old 09-10-2012, 03:08 PM   #4
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That tiny ass fmic that cam in the lot was perfect for my buddys teggy build so i traded him straight up for this, which fit ****ing perfect!

lip to hood, headlight to headlight



got out the sawzall and went to town on the bumper! pretty damn straight cuts! and looks mean at a crack addict



found a new walbro 255 laying around on nasic. perfect fit!



And yes, this car was a 4eat. but its been change! 300 dollar special, everything from a 95 l wagon

first micro tear down





drive line pulled


drive line back in with a third pedal

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Old 09-10-2012, 03:39 PM   #5
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bought this lot of parts from a guy just looking to get rid of all his subaru stuff! 200 bucks for lots of shiny stuff


i end up only using the 99.5 wiseco pistons, the one sti motor mount that was in the box and a sti tranny mount. i sold the rest and made a quick profit lol.

so now i can say engine was be franked together with all this:
ej251 with diy full deck and basic machine work
rebuilt hla heads from my first car
stock cams with delta weld and grind
09 sti crank with 10 under grind, re-nitrated and balenced
10 under acl main and rod bearings
arp rod bolts
arp head studs
05 sti rods
99.5 custom order wisecos(extra thick ringlands and det groove)
wiseco orderd rings
killer b oil pickup
10mm oil pump-ported,polished, and 2 extra shims
random externals from random engines

pictures.


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Old 09-10-2012, 03:39 PM   #6
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EMS TIME! and gut


Instead of wasting my money buying brand name plug and play stuff i got a megasquirt unit. and instead of buying a prebuilt one i built my own which only makes this ems system about 50-100 more then i spent on a pp6 setup. and its 23.4 times better



moving along nice with the soldering

and done




Alot of the features of the car have been stripped, caps, removed all together. i have not hit the scale yet but i have a massive pile of everything in my basement, my father was and is still quite pissed.


and all back together and missing

heat
ac
abs
airbags
roof rake
rear wiper
doom light
tcu
cruise
any exhuast shields
and any wire that i didnt need to run the car
only interior left are dash,seat, and front door cars



and that about it for now.

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Old 09-10-2012, 04:47 PM   #7
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as it sits now, waiting for clutch and another 5 speed as i blew that **** one up real fast.
clutch was sliping,center diff was cooked, 2 gear sycncro was ****ed and bearing noise.

so i got a 2000 jdm wrx ra tranny going in this month. the 4.44 one with close ratio gears for the track.
and today i got the new bushings for shifter from mcmaster and they are an interference fit on the oem shifter that came with the 60k miles transmission.

going to finish that up right mow.

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Old 09-11-2012, 04:37 PM   #8
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ACT HDG6 setup in mail! cant wait to have this back on the road with the new transmission.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:33 PM   #9
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Neat build. I've never seen a DIY closed deck. Is it safe? I have seen DIY semi-closed deck by putting pins in the block.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:10 AM   #10
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Also I hope you don't have cooling issues since you essentially filled in the water jackets. You might need to make a few more cuts or dremel out large sections
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:44 AM   #11
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they are not filled, look at it again. its only the top 1/4 that is closed, you wash out the sugar after the decks harden. but bad news is this block may be toast because the main tunnel is way out of tolerance
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:02 PM   #12
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they are not filled, look at it again. its only the top 1/4 that is closed, you wash out the sugar after the decks harden. but bad news is this block may be toast because the main tunnel is way out of tolerance
Yeah i did notice they weren't filled but I'd still worry about restricting flow since there are only two holes. Maybe if you do another one you can look into the pins. I don't really think a closed deck is even really necessary on a dd without some kind of really high boost.

Don't get me wrong though that's cool you did that yourself.
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Old 09-15-2012, 01:12 AM   #13
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i always wondered how to do that ...im used to hearing about people filling up the bottom of the block. I say do it again and with a more in depth diy on the subject. Considering this is the first time ive seen this kind of thing done to a EJ series engine.

I would also would like to know about the water temps w/ the partial block filling.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:44 AM   #14
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well i only have the holes drilled for the main bolts right now.. once i get my head gaskets i will drill out the holes for the coolant flow into the heads.

Imho semi close decks are just to keep the cylinder from moving under high stress and causing the head gaskets to let go. the little supports keep the cylinder true and stationary so the head gasket dont blow. every ej engine has had problems with blow headgaskets. ever since the phase 1 ej25d subaru has been trying to design a better block, and they did, somewhat, the phase 2 251 were alot better but still got external leaks instead. the new FA engine may be here partly because of the headgasket issue subaru has had for 20 years.

just my opinion and felt like ranting about it.
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What size fmic piping would you use for this build.

Someone is selling a God speed it with 2.4 inch piping for a 2002 wrx for cheap so I was gonna pick it op for the pipes to mod and cut
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Old 09-16-2012, 12:29 AM   #16
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Wow.. wish I had the time on my hands like you!
Knock out man, I'm a Leggy guy myself.
My first swap was a V1 JDM Sti into a 97 OB
I recently just finished & sold my 99 LGT /Wrx swap
Currently have a 99 OB w/ a 12.5:1 comp motor,as my daily & an 02 /05 Sti swap as my toy.
Keep up the good work!
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Old 09-16-2012, 01:14 AM   #17
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Yea I got time. No school and just working. Don't head to basic training till Feb. Just out of high school
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Problems! stupid problems!

so i got the act hd plate. that was the right part.

found out that fly wheels change between pull and push setups.
and found out that proparts sent me the wrong 6 puck. they sent me the 240mm disk(06 up) i need the 224mm. so yeah... exchange in progress
and im hoping the oem tob i ordered works with the act pressure plate, though i thinking they do, i hope, i see when it gets here tomorrow..

as for other parts, got some used perrin v1 fuel rails i need to mod to fit my intake bolt pattern
along with a mint aeromotive fuel pressure regulater cause i dont trust my stock N/A reg. plus now i have a easy way to connect my fuel pressure gauge! yeah!

alos gave up on the rear subfram bushing refresh as i can not for the life of me get the spindle bolts out, you know, those massize 8 plus inch rods that run though the rear hub and lat links. so for know i just getting the front trailing arm bushings...yeah...

next up is a drive to the exhaust shop to get this exhaust fab up from the headers back.

and then im in the air with ic piping.

my intercooler has 3 inch in and outs and the turbo is 2.5 outlet

i wanted to buy a used fmic kit for a wrx and cut and fab it to fit my car. I found a kit, its a used godspeed kit i can get for dirt cheap, 200 shipped with all the piping and ic but the piping is only like 2.5 or so. is that to little? i would think ic piping smaller then your thottle body would be stupid..
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Proparts usa. Horrible, I buy an act disk right. They **** up and send the wrong one, I send it back and I except to get a refund right when they get it. No. They have to send it to act to make sure its ok so it will be another week before I can get my refund.

Is this really what I have to deal with?
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:38 AM   #20
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Back on the ground! Just need the interior buttoned up and its off to the exhaust shop.

What fluids for the 5 speed is best. Before will my old one I really didn't care and put the cheapest gear oil I could find in it
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i usually put the best synthetic oil that i can get for cheap. But Xtra-S is really good ive heard and you also got Uncle Scotty's cocktail.
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i cant get my clutch to fully disengage. and im certain its bled perfect. how much travel do you normally get on the fork? its a pull type.
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:55 AM   #23
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Man i need to work on my cold starting tune!

today was a happy day, got my clutch to work finally, stupidity removal was the answer.

got the car winterize a bit, aluminum taped the massize holes in the firewall that im not using anymore, along with random holes on the floor pan to cut down those cold drafts

started mocking up fittment of the perrin v1 rails on a phase 1 intake. pics to follow.

ordered unclescottycocktail from grimspeed
and also ordered angel eyes from lightwerkz

Still looking for the bare 2.5 block, any block.

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Old 10-03-2012, 01:18 AM   #24
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Got the angle eyes finish, the car has a look to it that you would not wanna **** with basically. ill try to get pics as its to dark for my cam right now.

cars been for a few drives. my startup enrichment is way to rich and i really need to get the COM problems fixed.
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:01 PM   #25
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can you tell me more about the 650s?
did you send in the stock 285s and have them modded?
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