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Old 04-06-2001, 03:17 AM   #1
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Post How to buy tools for my modifications...?

I am thinking about doing the mods myself. Jack and jack stands are pretty standard. But what do I look for when I select my mechanic tools?

I am not planning on doing engine mods. But just about everything else...

<FONT COLOR="Red">I went to Sears and saw a Craftsman 101 pc. Mechanic Tool Set. This set includes 3 quick release ratchets (1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 in. drive sizes), 93 standard and metric sockets, 4 open-ended wrenches and carrying case. Is this good enough for me to mod my RS?</FONT c>

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Old 04-06-2001, 04:06 AM   #2
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I only use Craftsman tools from Sears. They are high quality tools and they don't cost that much either.

The only thing I don't have that are not Craftsman is a pair of locking pliers and a pair of jackstands.

The main things you need to do mod by yourself are ratchets, sockets, open-end wrenches, locking pliers, screwdrivers, etc etc.
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Old 04-06-2001, 05:18 AM   #3
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I have Craftsman tools too. A big plus is that they are warranteed for life, so if something breaks just bring it back and they will replace it for free. A suggestion to when you are buying things in general is to get the set rather than just the wrench of socket you need unless it is an oddball size. Although it is more expensive in the first place, it is a much better value. For wrenches I got the 12 point set instead of th six. It gives you a little more flexibility in wrench placement, but gives up a little strength-again I have never broken one yet.
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Old 04-06-2001, 05:24 AM   #4
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You want something that is warrenteed for life and the Craftsman stuff is good for that because they don't ask questions when your bring in a 19mm long socket that has been split down its length from trying to unpry the bolts off the suspension.

You will also want a GearWrench set, also from Sears. Invaluable tool for hard to reach Subaru areas, like the rear tops, links, etc.
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Old 04-06-2001, 05:35 AM   #5
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Oh yeah, always get 12 point sockets rather than 6. 12 point has more grip and it doesn't wear down the edge of the bolt.
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Old 04-06-2001, 06:01 AM   #6
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I disagree with you, tmat3. Six-point wrenches and sockets grip nuts and bolts much better, and are less likely to round them off. But as Nat said, twelve-pointers are a little easier to use.
Given the choice, I'd get six-point sockets and twelve-point wrenches.
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Old 04-06-2001, 06:23 AM   #7
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I am and will always be a life long customer for Craftsman hand tools but don't but their power tools. The reason Sears hand tools are so good is that you are paying for the name Craftsman. All of the hand tools are actually subcontracted to other tool makers like Husky or Snap-On. Sears doesn't manufacture any of their hand tools. However, they do make and manufacture their power tools. They don't have the research $$$ or facilities that companies like Dewalt, Porter Cable, etc.... have.

I highly suggest getting a good floor jack too. I think mine is a 2-ton floor jack. They are extremely helpful and you don't have to keep taking out and putting back that wimpy little Subaru jack.
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Old 04-06-2001, 06:29 AM   #8
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craftsman is good stuff...
have quite a bit of their stuff and it's held up fine so far... the warranty is nice..

try www.harborfreight.com

if you need BIG stuff that wont break your pocket book.. some good deals there... and the tools are decent...

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Old 04-06-2001, 06:36 AM   #9
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Sears has a semi-permanent sale on a 3 ton floor jack/jackstands combination for ~$99. The jack is a real step up from the tiny jack a lot of guys take to autocrosses.

Also, Sears has some great deals on compressors if you wait for a sale.

For working on a Subaru, you'll end up needing assorted extensions, wobble extensions, etc. to get in the smaller spaces. Nothing sucks worse than having the right socket but you can't fit the ratchet down there. Also, I'd suggest at least one REALLY good fine tooth ratchet, for when you only have 10 or so degrees of motion to tighten a nut.
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Old 04-06-2001, 07:31 AM   #10
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Ramps are also quite handy also for anything you need to get under the car for and don't need to take off a wheel. Around $50.

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Old 04-06-2001, 05:51 PM   #11
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<FONT COLOR="Red">I went to Sears and saw a Craftsman 101 pc. Mechanic Tool Set. This set includes 3 quick release ratchets (1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 in. drive sizes), 93 standard and metric sockets, 4 open-ended wrenches and carrying case. Is this good enough for me to mod my RS?</FONT c>
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Old 04-06-2001, 06:20 PM   #13
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All the tools you really need to user to do Mod on your RS are ..


A big screw driver (the 2ft kind)
Alot of Duck-Tape
A pair of good vice grips.
A big o'rock (to bang either the screw driver or vice grips with)

And ... a empty 7-11 Big-Gulp cup to spit your tobackie in.



couldn't resist. Sorry

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Old 04-06-2001, 06:47 PM   #14
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^HEHEHE^

Yes the jack stands and jacks that you can buy from wall-mart are small, but you are working a small import, not a 2 Ton chevy.

For $40 I got 2 jack stands, and a jack that came in a nice canvas bag.

Add to your list:

-Black eletrical tape (to put on flat head)
-flash light + one that can go on a head band(korny yes, but saves you a lot of frustration)
-creaper
-oil filter wrench
-rubber gloves
-rags
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Old 04-06-2001, 07:06 PM   #15
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i used to work at sears in the hardware department no less. usually the stuff that goes on sale is the SAME as the regular stuff. what i mean is there's an item called a special purchase. they just slap a different model number on there and maybe throw in a few extras and reduce the price.
don't ever go for their regular stuff unless u need to. there's always some special purchase going on. but yeah, the best part about craftsman tools (non-powered hand tools) is the lifetime warranty. broken? rusted? bring it back and we'll replace it. we even did trade-ins and charged u the diff for better tools if that's what u wanted. but i don't think it ever went the other way around.
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Old 04-06-2001, 07:22 PM   #16
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I use a lotta Craftsman stuff, just because I got it. Remeber, though... most of the car is metric, so don't lack on that stuff.
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Old 04-06-2001, 07:30 PM   #17
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Just a note on getting a 3-ton jack. Easier to lift, yes, but if your car is much lower than stock, you may have trouble getting a larger jack under there. 2-ton jacks are no problem.

As everyone seems to agree, Craftsman is good for general tools. And like Bottom Feeder said, 6-points are better, but 12-points are somewhat easier. One last thing -- in my opinion, get the biggest set you can afford. Nothing more frustrating than finding out at 1am that you're missing that particular deep metric socket. Plus, it'll be cheaper in the long run (assuming you use your tools often enough).

Okay, one more thing -- get some vise-grips. Very handy.
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Old 04-06-2001, 07:40 PM   #18
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I generally only use a 12-sided socket when I come across a 12-sided bolt.

If you have a garage big enough, Harbor Freight can sell you a wide variety of cheap, replaceable stuff. Their large, low profile floor jacks are cheap, their air tools are cheap, their presses are cheap.

Don't buy a welder at harbor freight though. With some things, the extra money is well spent.
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Old 04-06-2001, 09:28 PM   #19
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I generally only use a 12-sided socket when I come across a 12-sided bolt.
Well...I don't know if I'd go that far. Certainly if I have both I'd use the 6-point, though. Problem is, the kits from Sears generally have 12-points, then 6-points for selected ranges. Like I said, get a big kit -- it'll come with more 6-pts.

Re HarborFrieght -- thanks for the URL, SubieGal and ColinL. Didn't know about them.
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Old 04-06-2001, 10:02 PM   #20
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No one has mentioned the one of the most important tools (sort of) that you should have...

!!! Safety Glasses !!!

Take it from my experience as a professional mechanic; you are only lucky enough to be given a set of eyes once!! I would doubtless be blind in both if not for my safety specs.
Trust me, they'll pay for themselves the first time something decides to fly in your face!

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Old 04-07-2001, 02:25 PM   #21
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I got a tool set that is similar to the one your getting. It will get you started. When you get more money buy a set of screw driver with Torx, standard and Phillips drives, A metric set of deep sockets if your kit dosen't have it and a set of pliers. I have a standard plier and a set of small pliers that are really good for wiring. I would get the kit your looking at, it's a really good deal and its nice to work on your car and house with quality tools.

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Old 04-07-2001, 06:00 PM   #22
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All,
I got the Craftsman floor jack, jack stand, wheel chocks, and 101 pc. tool set for total of $127. I guess it's pretty good deal. Thanks for all your help!
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Old 04-08-2001, 12:00 AM   #23
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thanks guys! a lot of good tips and ideas! i'll let you guys know how my first mod goes!
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