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Old 09-13-2012, 08:04 PM   #1
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This is my third 02 WRX, my prior one I had one of them 100$ Cheapo HID kits from one of those (InsertHeadlightRelatedWebsite.com). Now that I have a better job and make good money I dont want to make the mistake I made last time where ultimately 8 months down the road they stopped working and weren't very good in the first place. I've seen and read a lot of posts about Retro-Fitting and such, but my question is, Is there any Proven,Tested, Great quality complete Hid/xenon Hi/low headlight assembly's made well where I can just take mine out buy them and wire up OEM Later model ballast's Or some extremely good quality ballast/headlight combos without having to retro fit and gut my current headlights?
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:08 PM   #2
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No there is not.

www.theretrofitsource.com

Has all the information you're looking for
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:14 PM   #3
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Already was reading threw that website. Couldn't find any info on whether or not they actually made a somewhat OEM/aftermarket set of headlights. So it looks like the best option is to get the Morimoto mini stage III Kit and follow a write-up on here?





Do they make a 3k HID Fog light kit/ Any recommendations on what people have used/Preference on which are the best quality.

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Old 09-13-2012, 08:26 PM   #4
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Already was reading threw that website. Couldn't find any info on whether or not they actually made a somewhat OEM/aftermarket set of headlights. So it looks like the best option is to get the Morimoto mini stage III Kit and follow a write-up on here?

Do they make a 3k HID Fog light kit/ Any recommendations on what people have used/Preference on which are the best quality.
There's a search function built into this website. Search for recommendations and you'll find everyone's opinions. This topic has been covered ad nauseam
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:34 PM   #5
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There are several aspects to a retrofit. The main one (imho) is function. The next big thing in people's mind is the aesthetics.

Morimoto Mini H1 is a popular choice due to the tradeoff between output performance, small size, and relative ease of retrofit. While the low beams are quite decent, the high beams are supposedly a bit lacking. Plus the use of H1 means that you won't be able to use most quality oem HID capsules.

Morimoto Mini D2S is similar in size, but may produce poorer low beams out the box (but better high). But they take D2S, which means that you can later on use quality OEM D2S capsules.

And so on.

Headlight housing choice (e.g. oem reflector, JDM projector, or the various aftermarket models) is not only an aesthetic choice, but may also impact function. For example, some options make it practically impossible to consider projectors with 3" lenses (the Minis are 2.5"), or the crazy Infinity Q45 multiple lens low beam HID projector.

Other than the EDM projector with built-in HID, there will be no plug-and-play solution for the bugeye.

If you go with the retrofit option and take your time gathering information, you can pretty much spec it to however you want.

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Old 09-13-2012, 09:48 PM   #6
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The EDM projector with built-in HID, Where would I find that? Tried google nothing came up i'd rather drop 600$ on a quality set, than my hackjob attempt to retrofit lol.
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:01 AM   #7
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On second thoughts, maybe the EDM didn't come with an HID option; just the JDM, which is obviously doesn't have the right cutoff shape for north america. There are RHD-LHD shield conversion kits sold out there, but I recall someone stating that it's not necessarily fool proof.

Retrofit isn't that hard. If you start with an inexpensive aftermarket pair, there's always the second retrofit. Browse around HID planet to see what others have done. That's how I convinced myself to go the DIY retrofit route.

If that still doesn't convince you, at least it will give you a good idea of what you specifically need, and who to pay to do a retrofit for you... there are professional retrofitters and habitual retrofitters you can find in that forum that may just do a retrofit that best meets your requirements.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:38 AM   #8
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Thanks a bunch for the info satrya. I'll Def be going that route then, I've always had no problem doing anything mechanical but the thought of gutting a headlight in most of these walkthroughs is a little intimidating lol.
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:56 AM   #9
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Then don't gut your original pair. If you really want to retrofit the JDM projectors for example, either have it retrofitted by someone, or better yet, get an oem reflector knockoff (sells around $140 these days in eBay), buy a used set of biX projectors from someone in HIDP (some of them go for a very good price, thanks to the habitual DIYers that accumulate parts), and try it out yourself.

My reasoning is that if you really want to be satisfied with what you want, even when paying someone to have it done, your own DIY experience helps solidify what you really need. In my case, I'm up to my 2nd retrofit for my bugeye, having used the first one for a while and then realizing how certain aspects matter more than others etc. If I had asked someone to do it for me, I'd end up wanting to open it up again and spec it slightly differently anyway, and that would've cost me up to 2 retrofit jobs done by a pro. While the pros definitely do a good job in spite of the cost, it would be annoying to have spent all that money and then realize it isn't quite what you wanted.

There's a thread in HIDP that talks about the lowest price of entry for retrofits, and you'd be surprised how low it is (although it's not as low as buying the PnP kits of course).

So, having done 2 rounds of retrofit myself, my suggestion would be:
(1) Get an inexpensive aftermarket headlights or used oem that has good potential (in terms of proper fit and finish) ~$140-250, and get a good harness (say, from TRS). Get a pair of used biXenon projectors (~$70-100), and a budget priced HID capsule-ballast set. For the latter, TRS (& potentially other vendors) occasionally offer sale of lightly used items etc. Or you might get a ballast-HID capsule set from DDM tuning (~$30?). Don't expect it to perform very well nor last long though.
(2) After driving with your retrofit for a while, you can get a better sense if you'd prefer a projector with better high beam, or a wider low beam coverage, or better distance, or more purple banding, or less foreground light, etc. The many different projectors and the possible mods to them will allow you to customize the extent of these many aspect. Which HID color (I personally prefer OEM-ish 4200 to 4300K), which wattage (35W is oem standard), which brand (Osram, Phillips, ....), and many more.
(3) With a much more appreciation of what those aspects mean to you, you can then either have a very nice pair of headlights retrofitted by someone, with a much more detailed spec you can give to them, or just enjoy the retrofit yourself.

I used to think that headlights are just headlights. That changed after driving my family car with oem HIDs and comparing it to my bugeye's oem reflector. The first retrofit felt like a great improvement, but then I started noticing my specific preferences in terms of the many different aspects I mentioned above. That was time for the 2nd retrofit. It could be a slippery slope from there though, as many HIDP forum members realize.

If you're concerned about melting the headlights during baking (I've done that on the filmsy wrc replica that Zowie Auto studio sells), for most butyl sealed headlights, you can open it up with a good application of a heat gun. On the aftermarket headlight donor I used, a household hair dryer at high setting was more than enough. Everything else is not hard, but might require patience.
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:12 PM   #10
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I went to the junkyard and picked up a pair of e46 projectors for $50 and made them work. If you're mechanically inclined and creative you can make things work, if there's enough physical space. I cut down the e46 shrouds (2.5") and used them with some trs e55 (3") shrouds. Some creativity and home depot parts allowed me to seal the back end up water tight .
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:31 PM   #11
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Look what this dude did to his 04..
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2405436
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