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Old 09-15-2012, 12:42 AM   #1
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I'm looking at buying 17's 5 lug universal, I have goodyear tires pretty new, and I know they need to be stretched to fit. can someone explain stretching? can any garage do it? is that considered a big stretch? dangers of it? etc? any information really.

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Old 09-15-2012, 01:16 AM   #2
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I'm looking at buying 17's 5 lug universal, I have goodyear tires pretty new, and I know they need to be stretched to fit. can someone explain stretching? can any garage do it? is that considered a big stretch? dangers of it? etc? any information really.

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What? You make absolutely 0 sense.

And there is no such thing as "5 lug universal".
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Old 09-15-2012, 01:23 AM   #3
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that's what I thought! until I looked it up..there's 4 lug universal and 5 lug..the holes in the rims match up specific ways if you look at them. but I'm not here to argue. just wanted information, I know nothing about stretching or sizing at all
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Old 09-15-2012, 02:00 AM   #4
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We can't tell you anything about stretching, other than going too far is really dumb, because you haven't told us what size tire on what wheel size.

And there's really no way to have a "universal" 5 lug wheel, it's probably drilled with 5x100 and 5x114.x
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Old 09-15-2012, 02:48 AM   #5
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that's what I thought! until I looked it up..there's 4 lug universal and 5 lug..the holes in the rims match up specific ways if you look at them. but I'm not here to argue. just wanted information, I know nothing about stretching or sizing at all
you haven't provided ANY information.

and there is no such thing as "universal" fit wheels. period.

if all you want to know is pros vs cons of stretching a tire (there are 0 pro's other than it being needed for certain wheel fitments), you can use google.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:59 AM   #7
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I'm not one to typically rag on folks but if you look at his post history, its a string of fail. ....remember the his "blue headlight" dilemma?
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Old 09-15-2012, 02:43 PM   #8
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I'm looking at buying 17's 5 lug universal, I have goodyear tires pretty new, and I know they need to be stretched to fit. can someone explain stretching? can any garage do it? is that considered a big stretch? dangers of it? etc? any information really.

thanks
Stretching is exactly how it sounds, you stretch the sidewall of the tire to force it to fit a larger width wheel than the tire was designed for, the ONLY reason to stretch tires is for fitment purposes and there are zero benefits as it is considered unsafe on our vehicles since the contact patch of the tire (the only part of the car that touches the ground) is reduced depending on how much of a stretch you do

Bottom line, its stupid and your car will ride like a hunk of ass and a toyota prius would handle better than it, but if you wanna look all "cool" and mad tyte hellaflush be my guest, just don't post about it or any problems you end up having as it will be open season on your ass
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:39 PM   #9
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thanks brew you answered exactly what I was wondering, as for these other guys ragging on me because I'm new to a lot of stuff and this is the only way I figure stuff out.
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You still haven't told us what tire size on what wheel width so we can help with the "will it blen- stretch" question.
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:59 PM   #11
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I'm looking at buying 17's 5 lug universal, I have goodyear tires pretty new, and I know they need to be stretched to fit.
How do you know they need to be stretched to fit?

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is that considered a big stretch?
Is what a big stretch? You haven't told us what size the wheels are, nor have you told us what size the Goodyear tires are. (Goodyear makes more than one size, if you weren't aware.) You've provided absolutely zero information to allow anyone to give you answers.

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any information really.
None that I've noticed.
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:51 PM   #12
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Im new to all this(obviously) I haven't even looked at the rims yet(buying used) all I know about them is they are 17inch and will fit 5 lug, on my tires all it says is the brand and max psi the tire can hold, my tires are goodyear eagle p205/555R15 on the stock 07 impreza 2.5i rims. hopefully that helps somewhat
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:01 PM   #13
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I[']m new to all this[ ](obviously)[.] I haven't even looked at the rims yet[ ](buying used)[.] [A]ll I know about them is they are 17inch and will fit 5 lug[.]
Do yourself a favor and go to Tire Rack's Tire Tech page and Wheel Tech page and start reading. I understand you're new to this, but the questions you're asking and the comments you're posting make it sound like you've never even seen a wheel and tire, let alone driven a car equipped with 4 of them.

As others have already pointed out, there's no such thing as a "universal 5-lug". There are all sorts of 5-lug bolt patterns - 5x100, 5x114.3, 5x120, 5x4.75", 5x5", etc etc. Your car has 5x100mm hubs. You need to buy 5x100mm wheels.

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[O]n my tires all it says is the brand and max psi the tire can hold[.]
Actually, they say a helluva lot more than that. The Tire Rack Tire Tech links will help you figure that out.

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[M]y tires are [G]oodyear [E]agle [P]205/555R15 [] on the stock 07 [ I]mpreza 2.5i rims. hopefully that helps somewhat
The stock '07 2.5i wheels are 16", so your tires should be 205/55-16. The Tire Tech links will tell you what those numbers mean, and based on that knowledge, you'll immediately realize that your 16" tires are not going to fit on 17" wheels.

As brew02wrx explained earlier, the "stretching" you asked about is a width thing. It's impossible to stretch the diameter of a tire to fit a larger diameter wheel.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:22 PM   #14
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Im new to all this(obviously) I haven't even looked at the rims yet(buying used) all I know about them is they are 17inch and will fit 5 lug, on my tires all it says is the brand and max psi the tire can hold, my tires are goodyear eagle p205/555R15 on the stock 07 impreza 2.5i rims. hopefully that helps somewhat
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ya need ta make all friends like with somebody local to you that can help ya out with yer car and ****

see if there are any 'meets' in your area and go to them

or this may---WILL.... end up being a VERY painful and co$tly learning experience for you
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:44 PM   #15
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Tires cannot be stretched to fit a different diameter wheel. Like Pat said, read the Tire Tech section on Tire Rack, it's a great resource, as are meets in your area.
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Old 09-17-2012, 01:02 PM   #16
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since I live in the middle of no where there really aren't any local meets, I have a lot of friends who have subarus but only some of them know what they are talking about. ill go on tirerack and wherever else to look
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