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Old 09-20-2012, 01:33 PM   #51
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It is fairly simple. They are doing this again because it helped the ratings for both of their shows the last time they did it and they can make a good amount of money off of doing it again.

Neither of these guys are stupid, but they are in the business of making themselves money. Once you accept that neither of them are "news" people it makes everything much easier to stomach. O'Reilly can be quite entertaining after a few drinks. Stewart I actually enjoy only because he is more low key in his approach.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:24 PM   #52
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I wouldn't be too sure. Both are very intelligent people, but in completely different ways. Both will prepare like madmen for this, and have their facts and stats correct. Should be interesting, and Stewart fans will claim he won and O'Reilly fans will claim he won.
I guess your right. I'm definitely biased. But I don't blindly accept things. Except when people tell me to.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:48 PM   #53
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I guess your right. I'm definitely biased. But I don't blindly accept things. Except when people tell me to.
What about his left?
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:53 PM   #54
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:54 PM   #55
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Son of a ****, I'm slipping lately.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:54 PM   #56
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I think it's going to depend on which persona O'Reilly decides to wear that day. He's a psychopath on his show, but I also saw him on a special a few years ago where he was talking to a group of college students and fielding questions, and he can be surprisingly rational and sounds pretty intelligent when he wants to. That persona doesn't sell ratings the same way as the ranting lunatic, though, so he knows which one to play most of the time.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:59 PM   #57
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Tonight's the night ! Sure to be worth the money. This week's TDS with O'reilly was epic.
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:23 PM   #58
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I don't claim to have perfect recall, but O'reilly guesting on TDS has been relatively restrained, either because he's not at home base or because he knows Stewart can take him apart, seemingly effortlessly. He (Jon) has done it so many times that it does make you wonder why O'reilly would subject himself to further abuse. Usually it's to promote a book or something...
ding! we have a winner, O'reilly just released Killing Kenedy (tittle), will not read.

Also his previous book was Killing Lincoln, I am sensing a theme, I wonder if Obama will have even finished his second term before O'Reilly releases the inevitable 'Killing Obama' book.
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:01 PM   #59
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ding! we have a winner, O'reilly just released Killing Kenedy (tittle), will not read.

Also his previous book was Killing Lincoln, I am sensing a theme, I wonder if Obama will have even finished his second term before O'Reilly releases the inevitable 'Killing Obama' book.


Are you predicting something more sinister than you realize?

Those two books are meant to be historical examinations of those president's assassinations.

Also, I bet your post just got you placed on an NSA watch list.
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:44 AM   #60
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So, was this entertaining?
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:02 AM   #61
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Infinitely better than the presidential debate:

But their hosting company screwed the pooch bigtime. The Twitter feed was going crazy with people who couldn't stream it, and my Paypal payment still hasn't gone through. I'll be filing a dispute when and if it does.
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:22 AM   #63
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Because looking one post up is too much effort.

How's life on Bull**** Mountain?
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But their hosting company screwed the pooch bigtime. The Twitter feed was going crazy with people who couldn't stream it, and my Paypal payment still hasn't gone through. I'll be filing a dispute when and if it does.
I was able to watch it streaming at around midnight last night. It stumbled a few times but not bad. Up until midnight it appeared they were trying to fix a server issue. Maybe the servers broke again after that.

It was wonderful, though, a great show. I liked when Stewart brought up Levittown.
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As expected, both were far more normal. Like I said, O'Reilly isn't stupid, but his "character" on Fox is designed to bring in viewers and money. He is still probably one of the smartest people on the Republican side.
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Are Conservatives really still that fired up about Sandra Fluke? Every time that O'Reilly brought her up as an example of the entitlement generation it made me think less of his arguments in general.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:08 PM   #67
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O'Reilly just likes to beat a dead horse. That, and I think that is being kept as a major issue not so much about birth control but "religious freedom" and anti-abortion group mentality.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:40 PM   #68
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God, I used to buy what Stewart was selling, but i've come to realize he is just the polar opposite of the far right., and PEOPLE EAT IT UP!

I'm no fan of O'Reilly either I think the whole two party system is a complete failure, because everyone just tows party lines instead of making their own decisions based on what the candidates are offering.
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God, I used to buy what Stewart was selling, but i've come to realize he is just the polar opposite of the far right., and PEOPLE EAT IT UP!

I'm no fan of O'Reilly either I think the whole two party system is a complete failure, because everyone just tows party lines instead of making their own decisions based on what the candidates are offering.
I disagree. When the Dems do something ridiculous he's just as likely to jump their isht as he is when the right does it, maybe even more so. Is he a liberal? hell yes, but he's just as likely to call out absurdity no matter which side of the aisle it occurs on.
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God, I used to buy what Stewart was selling, but i've come to realize he is just the polar opposite of the far right., and PEOPLE EAT IT UP!

I'm no fan of O'Reilly either I think the whole two party system is a complete failure, because everyone just tows party lines instead of making their own decisions based on what the candidates are offering.
Polar opposite? You're retarded. Stewart is as much of a radical as Obama is - which is to say, not at all.
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Are you predicting something more sinister than you realize?

Those two books are meant to be historical examinations of those president's assassinations.

Also, I bet your post just got you placed on an NSA watch list.
I am predicting nothing sinister, but you do miss the point, the books are less about the history of the assassinations as they are about the subsequent dismantling of their legacies as president.

I have worked with them (NSA) before, so I was already on said watch list, also I discus in email Nuclear weapons proliferation and production and reactor design, none of it rated secret in any way but it can be very technical, with a friend on average a couple times a year and usually include a note or a wave for the NSA employee forced to read it for no good reason. All part of being a physicist that used to work in military intelligence. meh.

Edit: Good debate, I think John crushed him on many points but Bill'O was more reasonable on a number of things than I expected and I think that he actually believes what he said.

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I disagree. When the Dems do something ridiculous he's just as likely to jump their isht as he is when the right does it, maybe even more so. Is he a liberal? hell yes, but he's just as likely to call out absurdity no matter which side of the aisle it occurs on.
O'Reilly does the same thing. I catch him when I'm at my parents' house and he calls out right wing idiots regularly.
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:46 AM   #73
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God, I used to buy what Stewart was selling, but i've come to realize he is just the polar opposite of the far right., and PEOPLE EAT IT UP!

I'm no fan of O'Reilly either I think the whole two party system is a complete failure, because everyone just tows party lines instead of making their own decisions based on what the candidates are offering.
where are they towing it?
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:00 AM   #74
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I watched the first 30minutes, plan to finish the rest today at lunch or tonight. It's so amazing to me how much of the debate is over semantics.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:29 AM   #75
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Is it just me or was Stewart surprisingly and blatantly wrong on the whole Clinton/national debt thing?
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