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Old 10-12-2012, 12:07 AM   #51
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I live in Quebec Canada

I have 4 Nokian Hakkappellita 7 205-55-16.
Best winter Tire you can have... but really expensive. (936$ can) on cheap RSSW wheel (for winter only)


Love it

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Old 10-12-2012, 12:47 AM   #52
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We had our first snow fall today (with some accumulation on roads)!
Got me thinking about getting some winter's for the new '13 Impreza Hatch.
I have the Touring (roughly the Premium in the states) with the 205/55-16 Yoko's.
Any issues going down from that to 15" steelies? I was interested in the Nokian Hakkappellita R in 195/65-15, but the shop had concerns about fitting the 15" on the Impreza.

I know the base model Impreza runs 195/65-15 wheels, so any reason the next trim level up couldn't? Caliper clearance is only based on wheel size and not specific tires right?
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:12 AM   #53
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Correct.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:48 AM   #54
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These are MSW type 14 (silver painted), they are offered on Tire Rack as the cheapest alloy option.

The set up is the Tire Rack recommended -2 selection, tires are 195/65 R15 and the rims are 15" to fit the Impreza. I didn't order from Tire Rack, though.

I bought the tires off craigslist, they were offered with steel rims but the rims would not fit my car. If the steel rims offered fit, that's what I would have used and save a whole lot of money.

I would have mounted them on new steel wheels, again to save money, but I went to an independent tire shop and they quoted me $94 to mount the tires on steel wheels, no covers (ouch)

I went to Mavis discount tire, and they ordered these MSW wheels and mounted/balanced the tires for $100 a wheel plus tax.

For black MSW wheels (painted) the cost is higher, but I think the Plasti dip is more durable and protects the original finish of the wheel, and comes off if I change my mind.

I would have sprayed them gunmetal gray but my hardware store only had black plastidip, and no auto stores near me carry plastidipp

Someone online complained about the center cap from the MSR wheels coming off -- they are plastic caps with a wire retaining ring inside the cap.

I think with the plasti dip on the sides they will stay put (I sprayed over the caps completely, then peeled just the logo area). To be sure they stay on I am going to spray a little plastidip inside the rim where the cap attaches, that should hold them on!

Overall it was a still bit expensive to buy the MSW wheels and mount the tires. I have slightly used Nordman 2 tires ($62.50 each so about $40 a tire savings over new), but the rims and mounting cost are similar to Tire Racks price, and I saved an extra $100 on shipping the tire package from Tire Rack.
I think I'm just going to craigslist some snow tires and steelies, as I have already spent a bundle on 18s and summer tires. Or maybe I'll just run my stock 17s until the Yoko's wear out and then use them for snow tires. Too bad the Yoko's are terrible though.
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:50 AM   #55
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We had our first snow fall today (with some accumulation on roads)!
Got me thinking about getting some winter's for the new '13 Impreza Hatch.
I have the Touring (roughly the Premium in the states) with the 205/55-16 Yoko's.
Any issues going down from that to 15" steelies? I was interested in the Nokian Hakkappellita R in 195/65-15, but the shop had concerns about fitting the 15" on the Impreza.

I know the base model Impreza runs 195/65-15 wheels, so any reason the next trim level up couldn't? Caliper clearance is only based on wheel size and not specific tires right?
Tire Rack recommends that you downsize the wheel/tire combo for snow tires to 15" wheels, 195/65 R15 tires

These are narrower, and taller sidewall tires (not low profile), but pretty much the same size as the combo that is on your car (because the tire is not a low profile tire, the smaller rim and tire does not lower the car much at all).

These will fit, that's what I have for my car (Sport that came with 17" wheels)
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:51 AM   #56
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Saved the spare from my '04 Forester and got three more to use my 16" snow tires from my Forester on my '12 Impreza.
Yes, looking forward to snow.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:06 PM   #57
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With going with TireRack's recommended setup will the clearance stay the same or is there a setup with no issues (rubbing, turning, etc) that will give us a bit of lift?

I have '12 Sport Limited 5-Door...
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:26 PM   #58
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Man I am so pissed off right now. I've unpackaged wheels combo I bought from Tirerack last week and they look like monkey mounted tires on them. Every single one is scratched in multiple places. WTF?! I understand that I only got steelies but if they dont want to take good care of them why offer them painted? I might have as well keep the OEM ones I already had in my basement.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:32 PM   #59
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Man I am so pissed off right now. I've unpackaged wheels combo I bought from Tirerack last week and they look like monkey mounted tires on them. Every single one is scratched in multiple places. WTF?! I understand that I only got steelies but if they dont want to take good care of them why offer them painted? I might have as well keep the OEM ones I already had in my basement.
Have you contacted their customer support?
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:00 PM   #60
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Have you contacted their customer support?
Umm no. I only suffer from mild case of petty grievance. It blows because I wanted to get another combo from Tirerack for my wife's Legacy but if they did such poor job on steelies I dare not risk buying again from them.
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:01 PM   #61
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With going with TireRack's recommended setup will the clearance stay the same or is there a setup with no issues (rubbing, turning, etc) that will give us a bit of lift?

I have '12 Sport Limited 5-Door...
Use the tire rack recommended size, it keeps the height of the wheel/tire about the same by increasing the height of the sidewall of the tire, and the narrower tire works better in snow. Having a higher sidewall also helps to protect the rims from curb damage (more likely to occur in slippery conditions)

The main clearance issue is whether the wheels clear the calipers, so make sure they sell you the correct rims.

http://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/...jsp?techid=126

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Old 10-13-2012, 03:02 PM   #62
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You can buy wheel covers for the steel rims, Tire Rack sells them as a set of 4 for about $140
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:13 PM   #63
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That would beat the point of getting steelies. I actually like that look. Oh well you live and learn. At some point I will get my own tire mounting setup.
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:24 PM   #64
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Spray them with Plasti-dip. That will cover any scratches and it looks good.
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:21 PM   #65
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Umm no. I only suffer from mild case of petty grievance. It blows because I wanted to get another combo from Tirerack for my wife's Legacy but if they did such poor job on steelies I dare not risk buying again from them.
If it bothers you enough to cause grief and keep you from ordering from them again, then call their customer service and at least give them the opportunity to make you happy. I don't swear off a company until I've given them the chance to fix a mistake, and they don't/can't.

Tire Rack has a solid reputation. Give them a chance to make you happy.
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:03 PM   #66
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That would beat the point of getting steelies. I actually like that look. Oh well you live and learn. At some point I will get my own tire mounting setup.
Rock the blue or green steelies look.
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Old 12-14-2013, 02:53 AM   #67
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How many days a year your tires will make contact with snow?! You should consider winter performance tires that are good in low temps and stick to the ground like summer performance tires in the summer! Example: Primacy Alpin PA3. They are better in snow than all seasons and one of the best on dry in low temperatures!
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Old 12-14-2013, 01:54 PM   #68
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That's one school of thought.

Another is, unless you're doing something really stupid, you won't fly off a cold, dry road even with marginal tires. When you need traction on snow and ice, you need it in the worst way.
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