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Old 04-02-2014, 08:32 PM   #1
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Default Forget the tune?!

So I just recently purchased a '13 hatch with the warranty... Obviously the dealer told me I can't tune it as it will wipe the serial. Is there any point of me getting a CAI when I can't even tune my car? Besides the sound, will I see any gains?

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Old 04-02-2014, 08:33 PM   #2
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Btw

The dealer claims the car will tune itself to these aftermarket parts. I'm skeptical
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:35 PM   #3
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It's a trap unless it's SPT... AFAIK.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:35 PM   #4
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Dealer is wrong. These cars need to be tuned for anything besides a catback really. Plus any mods will most likely void your warranty
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:35 PM   #5
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Considering that a tune is a MUST, to run an aftermarket intake, what do you think?
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:35 PM   #6
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So get the SPT?
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:38 PM   #7
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Intake by itself does nothing. Save your money, or say **** it to your warranty.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:38 PM   #8
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YES!/thread... :|
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:38 PM   #9
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thanks for the input friends. Guess ill just save whatever I can for the classic q300
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:40 PM   #10
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If you have some money burning a hole in your pocket, why not get a nice kartboy shifter and bushings?
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:43 PM   #11
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Yeah that's on the list. Ill get the shifter since install is easy but ill have to see what I can do for installing the bushings..
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:37 AM   #12
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No SPT Intake for the 08+ by the way. And an accessport won't automatically void your warranty, but they could deny power train repairs if they find out the ECU was altered beyond stock.
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Old 04-03-2014, 04:38 AM   #13
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They don't make an spt intake for your car. Even if they did you'd need a tune. All of this is covered in multiple stickies.

A tune/mod will not void a warranty but can lead to warranty claim denial.

An intake is simply a noise maker, again with research you would have realized this.
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Old 04-03-2014, 06:35 AM   #14
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^ not entirely true. Look for a intake that states in writing that it will not void your warranty such as k&n typhoon, now Cobb on the other hand email them about the warranty and see what they say or AEM or whoever. You do not have to run a tune with the k&n either, it states it in their paperwork, I've had mine on my car for a year now. You will not get the most out of it until lit is tuned of course. The only difference is the flow rates on the elements, the round flows almost double what the drop in element does. Now does your car need all this probably not but it does make the cfm that it wants to pull easier to pull.
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Old 04-03-2014, 06:47 AM   #15
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^ not entirely true. Look for a intake that states in writing that it will not void your warranty such as k&n typhoon, now Cobb on the other hand email them about the warranty and see what they say or AEM or whoever. You do not have to run a tune with the k&n either, it states it in their paperwork, I've had mine on my car for a year now. You will not get the most out of it until lit is tuned of course. The only difference is the flow rates on the elements, the round flows almost double what the drop in element does. Now does your car need all this probably not but it does make the cfm that it wants to pull easier to pull.


Yes, anytime you change an intake on an 08+ you need a tune. Doesn't matter what K&N claims. Testing and research shows that even a drop in filter can require a tune.
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Old 04-03-2014, 06:48 AM   #16
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^ not entirely true. Look for a intake that states in writing that it will not void your warranty such as k&n typhoon, now Cobb on the other hand email them about the warranty and see what they say or AEM or whoever. You do not have to run a tune with the k&n either, it states it in their paperwork, I've had mine on my car for a year now. You will not get the most out of it until lit is tuned of course. The only difference is the flow rates on the elements, the round flows almost double what the drop in element does. Now does your car need all this probably not but it does make the cfm that it wants to pull easier to pull.


Wow. So very wrong.
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Old 04-03-2014, 07:37 AM   #17
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You do not have to run a tune with the k&n either, it states it in their paperwork
Do you believe everything an aftermarket parts company says in their paperwork is accurate? Hint: They'll tell you whatever they need to sell parts.
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Old 04-03-2014, 07:37 AM   #18
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^ not entirely true. Look for a intake that states in writing that it will not void your warranty such as k&n typhoon, now Cobb on the other hand email them about the warranty and see what they say or AEM or whoever. You do not have to run a tune with the k&n either, it states it in their paperwork, I've had mine on my car for a year now. You will not get the most out of it until lit is tuned of course. The only difference is the flow rates on the elements, the round flows almost double what the drop in element does. Now does your car need all this probably not but it does make the cfm that it wants to pull easier to pull.
They are right like hinshaw said it doesn't void your warranty if the differential or tranny go they can be fixed. Lol. But will get a denial on the engine
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Old 04-03-2014, 07:49 AM   #19
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Thing is with paper work and how sue happy our country is these days. You better believe their paperwork is accurate because now they just became liable, and you have a paper trail to follow. K&N is the only product out there that is willing to put this in writing I encourage you to call or email the other companies and watch them talk in circles. Just my advice, do with it what you want.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:07 AM   #20
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Thing is with paper work and how sue happy our country is these days. You better believe their paperwork is accurate because now they just became liable, and you have a paper trail to follow. K&N is the only product out there that is willing to put this in writing I encourage you to call or email the other companies and watch them talk in circles. Just my advice, do with it what you want.


Keep telling yourself.

AEM, and countless other intakes say this, but damn near every intake states for "off road use only."

But why trust the community that deals with this when a company that likes to make money of idiots says on a piece of paper work?

Edit: I bet you also believe you're getting a 14.48 WHP increase right?
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It's been proven time and time again any intake (including a drop-in) requires a tune. For the love of god do some research and ye shall be educated.
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:13 PM   #22
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^ not entirely true. Look for a intake that states in writing that it will not void your warranty such as k&n typhoon, now Cobb on the other hand email them about the warranty and see what they say or AEM or whoever. You do not have to run a tune with the k&n either, it states it in their paperwork, I've had mine on my car for a year now. You will not get the most out of it until lit is tuned of course. The only difference is the flow rates on the elements, the round flows almost double what the drop in element does. Now does your car need all this probably not but it does make the cfm that it wants to pull easier to pull.

I am you father now listen up. While you probably can drop in one of these aftermarket intakes and run them for 1000's of miles without noticing an issue; it does not mean that they are not doing harm. Subarus, particularly the turbo models are very sensitive to mods and pretty much require a tune on just aboue everything, but an air freshener and a fart can. Plus, there is no reason to add a CAI onto these cars until you are really pushing the hp/tq numbers because the OEM is just fine.
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:40 PM   #23
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The stock intake is good to many WHPs AFAIK, as well.
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Old 04-03-2014, 01:14 PM   #24
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^ not entirely true. Look for a intake that states in writing that it will not void your warranty such as k&n typhoon, now Cobb on the other hand email them about the warranty and see what they say or AEM or whoever. You do not have to run a tune with the k&n either, it states it in their paperwork, I've had mine on my car for a year now. You will not get the most out of it until lit is tuned of course. The only difference is the flow rates on the elements, the round flows almost double what the drop in element does. Now does your car need all this probably not but it does make the cfm that it wants to pull easier to pull.
The only thing from K&N that they claim won't impact your warranty is a drop in filter. The paperwork for the Typhoon is quite different and only stays anything about a warranty as it applies to the Typhoon itself.
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^ not entirely true. Look for a intake that states in writing that it will not void your warranty such as k&n typhoon, now Cobb on the other hand email them about the warranty and see what they say or AEM or whoever. You do not have to run a tune with the k&n either, it states it in their paperwork, I've had mine on my car for a year now. You will not get the most out of it until lit is tuned of course. The only difference is the flow rates on the elements, the round flows almost double what the drop in element does. Now does your car need all this probably not but it does make the cfm that it wants to pull easier to pull.
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