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Old 11-05-2012, 02:07 PM   #126
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don't think so, you'd have to order two kits. I didn't think to try and fit the front flares on the rear arches so i can't comment on that possibility.
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:54 PM   #127
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Sorry for all the annoying questions, does anyone know how these compare to the karlton flares? I know they're a lot cheaper but im curious about the size difference, front and rear.

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Old 11-05-2012, 04:16 PM   #128
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I believe Karlton flares are significantly wider. Here's my project. These are flares for a Lexus IS300 but I assume there close to shape and size of Karlton flares.

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Old 11-05-2012, 07:10 PM   #129
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The dichotomy is that on a wagon with my ride height, in order to even remotely fill those wheel wells, i'll have to cut out the fenders. Obviously has no aesthetic impact at this point, but it's hard to stomach!
This was my question too. How do I put wider/more aggressive wheels on if the original fender remains untouched? I am sitting on a 1 finger gap all the way around and the idea of going wider than 8.5" is appealing, but I don't see how its possible if the original fender is still in the way of proper fitment.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:55 PM   #130
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This was my question too. How do I put wider/more aggressive wheels on if the original fender remains untouched? I am sitting on a 1 finger gap all the way around and the idea of going wider than 8.5" is appealing, but I don't see how its possible if the original fender is still in the way of proper fitment.
I'm going to do it eventually. Flares are the gateway drug to the angle grinder.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:58 PM   #131
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I just wish the rears could be modified without having to hack apart the unibody.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:02 PM   #132
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I just wish the rears could be modified without having to hack apart the unibody.
How aggressive do you think you have to get? i did some preemptive investigation when i was putting the flares on, it looked like i could get another couple inches of space if i chop out ~10 inches from center in each direction of fender circumference. Was there something more substantial in there i missed?
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:07 PM   #133
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I believe Karlton flares are significantly wider. Here's my project. These are flares for a Lexus IS300 but I assume there close to shape and size of Karlton flares.
Where did you get those from? Did the rears come cut for the door already?

I asked Karlton about the flares on the wagon, and he thought it would be really difficult as there would be huge gaps everywhere since they are designed for the sedan fenders.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:09 PM   #134
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I was more referring to swapping sedan fenders as a whole. I'm not sure how these flares are set up, but I would be wary hacking away at sheet metal with only ABS plastic in its place.

I think this is an awesome idea, but so far it strikes me as an aesthetic mod.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:10 PM   #135
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I was more referring to swapping sedan fenders as a whole. I'm not sure how these flares are set up, but I would be wary hacking away at sheet metal with only ABS plastic in its place.

I think this is an awesome idea, but so far it strikes me as an aesthetic mod.
Ah, gotcha. yeah. It will be quite some time before i can justify dropping the $$$ on new wheels and tires, so it's certainly going to remain an aesthetic mod for the time being.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:12 PM   #136
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I've got some white Rays for sale for the right price in the classifieds

The white on white would be sexy.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:15 PM   #137
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I've got some white Rays for sale for the right price in the classifieds

The white on white would be sexy.
hahaha thanks, maybe i'll take a look
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:15 PM   #138
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Where did you get those from? Did the rears come cut for the door already?

I asked Karlton about the flares on the wagon, and he thought it would be really difficult as there would be huge gaps everywhere since they are designed for the sedan fenders.
I bought these from chaser Aero dynamics. They were intended for the rear but they fit almost perfectly up front. They do make the rear flares for the IS300 that are 4 piece which I "assume" would be cut for the rear door. I plan on purchasing them but I'm in the process of doing a turbo swap so funds are tight. They're walker flares. Here's a couple more pics


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Old 11-05-2012, 08:31 PM   #139
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Nice job mecha! Flared wagons FTW.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:58 PM   #140
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That wagon actually looks great with them black, Me like I think this looks way better than having the seda fenders on the front and the regular wagon body lines in the rear...much more classy good work guys, it is always nice when parts not meant to go, just go so ****ing well lol
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:19 PM   #141
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That wagon actually looks great with them black, Me like I think this looks way better than having the seda fenders on the front and the regular wagon body lines in the rear...much more classy good work guys, it is always nice when parts not meant to go, just go so ****ing well lol
Thank you very much! I absolutely agree- i'll add some more pics after i give it a bath tomorrow, but the transition from the fender to the flare is far smoother than i anticipated. At this point i'm afraid they would go largely unnoticed if they were body-colored...maybe that's something i'll be interested in in the future, we'll see how we get along.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:47 PM   #142
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you guys have it on with RA mudflaps?

looks very good.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:50 PM   #143
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yep i do. I'll try and take some more pics tonight.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:00 PM   #144
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Just a personal opinion mecha, I think a bottom line side skirt kit, or whatever there called, from charge speed would look pretty cool with the black flares and front lip.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:01 PM   #145
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Just a personal opinion mecha, I think a bottom line side skirt kit, or whatever there called, from charge speed would look pretty cool with the black flares and front lip.
Thanks for the tip!!! I will definitely look into it.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:02 PM   #146
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thanks mecha.

do you think you can get some pics of the ends of the flares. i got and '07 with the same side skirts i believe. thanks.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:20 PM   #147
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so if I remembered right one of the problems associated with going uber wide wheels was more of an issue with the wheels coming contact with the strut in the rear. how are ya'll going to deal with this? spacers?

Or am i just completely wrong and this is a non issue?
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:23 PM   #148
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so if I remembered right one of the problems associated with going uber wide wheels was more of an issue with the wheels coming contact with the strut in the rear. how are ya'll going to deal with this? spacers?

Or am i just completely wrong and this is a non issue?
If you're wheels are rubbing on your struts, your offset is wrong. You need lower offset wheels when you go wider.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:26 PM   #149
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The flares would look great painted mecha. I thought I liked mine in black until I painted them, then I liked them even more.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:38 PM   #150
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This looks horrible.
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