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Old 11-01-2012, 04:18 PM   #551
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consistency....

the awe inspiring consistency....
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:19 PM   #552
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The question simply is:

can one get the 6MT with the FA20DIT engine equipped XT.

I have heard comments to the negative on that, but no documentation.

If yes: despite the horrific front bumper cover, I would have to consider it... probably the only 250+ hp CUV with a 6MT and AWD around, or at least one of very, very few choices.

If no: Just as much of a non-starter as the current SH generation XT, as it is not an improvement on looks.

If no, that leaves an underpowered 2.5X Premium SH model ('11-13 FB25+5MT is better looking than '14 with presumably the cable-shifted 6MT that was in the Legacy...)

If I have to go Automatic... I may as well get H6 power, 5x114.3 hubs, and much better amenities in an 08-current Tribeca, especially with the depreciation those take.

Or somehow find an SH XT Limited or XT touring with drivetrain damage, and swap in a Subaru manual transaxle and rear diff, similar to others who have done STI driveline swaps into SH Foresters.

I wonder if there is any chance for an XV Crosstrek with the 6MT+FA20DIT, as something sportier than the Forester XT.


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Just got this email from SOA, wonder if it will be posted on the webpage soon:

News Release Issued: October 31, 2012 10:00 PM EDT

SUBARU REVEALS ALL-NEW 2014 FORESTER CROSSOVER SUV;
NEW MODEL TO MAKE NORTH AMERICAN DEBUT AT LOS ANGELES AUTO SHOW


CHERRY HILL, NJ, Nov. 1, 2012 – Subaru of America, Inc. today released the first official photos of the all-new 2014 Forester crossover SUV, which will make its North American debut at the Los Angeles Auto Show. The new Forester combines a bolder profile than before while offering a roomier interior with virtually the same footprint as the previous model.

The fourth generation of Subaru’s popular Forester will offer a new 2.0-liter direct-injection turbocharged BOXER® engine producing 250 horsepower. The standard naturally aspirated 2.5-liter BOXER engine debuted in the outgoing Forestermodel. Fuel economy will be higher across the line with the debut of a new six-speed manual transmission and available Lineartronic® continuously variable transmissions (CVT).

The all-new five-passenger 2014 Forester preserves the optimal blend of SUV capability and car-like ride and handling that have made the Forester one of the Subaru brand’s best-selling models for the past 15 years. Refined (or New) suspension system delivers agile handling and a highly compliant ride quality. Generous 8.7 inches ofground clearance enhances off-pavement driving capability.

The 2014 Forester will offer an exceptionally roomy interior, featuring increased rear seat legroom, and an enlarged cargo area. In-demand infotainment features will be offered, including smartphone integration, navigation, rear view camera, and harman/kardon® premium audio amplifier and speakers.

Basic Vehicle Specifications
Engine types and output
2.5-liter 4-cylinder BOXER, naturally aspirated
170 hp @ 5,800 rpm 174 lb.-ft. peak torque @ 4,100 rpm

2.0-liter 4-cylinder BOXER, direct fuel injection, turbocharging, intercooler
250 hp @ 5,600 rpm* 258 lb.-ft. peak torque @ 2,000-4,800 rpm
Transmission
2.5-liter models: 6-speed manual or Lineartronic CVT
2.0-liter turbo: high-torque CVT with 6-speed and 8-speed manual modes and Hill Descent Control
Drivetrain
Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive standard for all models
Wheelbase
103.9 in.
Vehicle length
180.9 in.
Vehicle height
68.2 in (with roof rails)
Vehicle width
70.7 in.
Wheels/tires
2.5-liter: 17 x 7 in. aluminum alloy with 225/60 R17 all-season
2.0-liter turbo: 18 x 7 in. aluminum alloy with 225/55 R18 all-season
* With premium grade gasoline

About Subaru of America, Inc.
Subaru of America, Inc. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. of Japan. Headquartered in Cherry Hill, N.J., the company markets and distributes Subaru Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive vehicles, parts and accessories through a network of more than 600 dealers across the United States. All Subaru products are manufactured in zero-landfill production plants and Subaru of Indiana Automotive Inc. is the only U.S. automobile production plant to be designated a backyard wildlife habitat by the National Wildlife Federation. For additional information visit http://www.subaru.com.

“Subaru”, “BOXER”, “Forester”, all model names, and the Subaru logo are registered trademarks of the Subaru subsidiary of Fuji Heavy Industries, Ltd, Japan.
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Become fan of Subaru on http://www.facebook.com/subaruofamerica and follow @subaru_usa.


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No XT 6MT for the launch.

My question was whether once the WRX/STI are released if maybe then they would release a 6MT XT since they would have a transmission that could handle the power. But apparently that won't happen.
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:22 PM   #553
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When Impreza added the CVT, it dropped HP but maintained similar performance. 2014 Forester adds the CVT but maintains the same HP... I think even the 2.5 could be fairly spunky, power-wise! Should out-perform existing model. Excited to see fuel economy numbers and weight. This is looking like a winner to me.
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When the new FB25 came out last year, everyone was ok with the power being the same as the old EJ25. most people were expecting more power with the new Forester. Looks like that's not happening.
Same HP but at lower RPM and more torque. Also at lower RPM. The 2010 Outback gained weight over the '09 yet was about a second quicker 0-60 over the 4EAT. I think the CVT on the Forester with the same engine will be nice.


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If I'm not mistaken, the stock Yokohama Geolandars are pretty crappy, right?

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The C lights up! Thanks for the video. We have only seen the count down clock with the container sitting in the desert.
Are those lit up? They just look frosted to me.
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Old 11-01-2012, 06:25 PM   #554
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For the record, here's a link to SOA's 2014 Forester press release on its media website:
http://www.media.subaru.com/pressrel...-crossover-suv

And here's a link that downloads a .zip file containing hi-res versions (3600 x 2700) of the two photos which accompany the press release:
http://www.media.subaru.com/ms-media...,1321,&size=hi

The picture of the turbo model has some interesting info imbedded within it:
Date Taken: 10/23/2012 4:02 PM
Camera maker: Phase One
Camera model: P45+
F-stop: f/16
Exposure time: 20 sec.

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Old 11-01-2012, 06:34 PM   #555
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Documentation?





No XT 6MT for the launch.

My question was whether once the WRX/STI are released if maybe then they would release a 6MT XT since they would have a transmission that could handle the power. But apparently that won't happen.
That would be nice! It would help with fuel economy which is the overall goal over the next 13 years so it would be nice to start now with such things.

I think I'll wait it out and see what the new one will have in store...
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:01 PM   #556
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So the Legacy 2.0GT DIT has a high torque CVT as well and the VTD system. Think this XT will also or keep the current Active system?

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The [Legacy 2.0GT DIT's] new Lineartronic (CVT) was applied for higher torque of the newly developed 2.0 liter Horizontally- Opposed direct injection turbo engine. Some parts such as the torque converter and chains were modified to endure the high performance of the direct injection turbo engine.

● The torque distribution is controlled appropriately for sporty driving due to the VTD-AWD system which was combined for the first time with the Lineartronic (CVT). As a result, both excellent traction performance and vehicle stability were achieved.
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:10 PM   #557
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The base model looks a little rav4ish but the XT version adds some spice. I just hope it decreases its MSRP to below 30k for a equipped XT
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:29 PM   #558
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Edited. I was speed reading while driving.

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Old 11-01-2012, 08:32 PM   #559
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Because this!

2.0-liter turbo: high-torque CVT with 6-speed and 8-speed manual modes and Hill Descent Control

It has both 6-spd and 8-spd modes for the CVT.
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I believe that is somewhat of a typo. The manual mode is 6 speed. It also has an automatic mode that will simulate an 8 speed automatic without the aid of the paddle shifters.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:56 PM   #561
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I believe that is somewhat of a typo. The manual mode is 6 speed. It also has an automatic mode that will simulate an 8 speed automatic without the aid of the paddle shifters.
I would much rather it rather it behave like a regular CVT, and sit in the powerband, than mimic an automatic.
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It's not a typo.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:09 PM   #563
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Really? Is this 6-speed and 8-speed mode also exist on the Impreza and XV CVTs?
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Nope. It's specific to MY14 Forester XT's.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:14 PM   #565
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I would much rather it rather it behave like a regular CVT, and sit in the powerband, than mimic an automatic.
I assume it would when in auto and you accelerate. Why wouldn't it? Cruising might be different as well as manual mode.
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So the Legacy 2.0GT DIT has a high torque CVT as well and the VTD system. Think this XT will also or keep the current Active system?
Oooh, good question, Snow Drift. I had just assumed DIT would continue being paired with VTD, but it's in a new model and a new market, so...

Gosh, hope it's VTD.
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Anyone seen any shots of the moonroof yet? Were they able to keep it panoramic, or did they return to standard size like Legacy/Outback did?
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The legacy dit has SI-drive.
I see no mention of it on the Forester. Could the hill descent control replace that feature on the Forester.
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No DI in the 2.5. Get with it Subaru. Maybe the 15 Outback/Leg will get it. the 2.5 needs 185 hp
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So the Legacy 2.0GT DIT has a high torque CVT as well and the VTD system. Think this XT will also or keep the current Active system?
I think it will. Sounds like a sophisticated system and it has 250hp. Has Subaru had anything with that much power and not be VTD?


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Anyone seen any shots of the moonroof yet? Were they able to keep it panoramic, or did they return to standard size like Legacy/Outback did?
I heard it still has our big friend. Hope they weren't wrong.

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The legacy dit has SI-drive.
I see no mention of it on the Forester. Could the hill descent control replace that feature on the Forester.
I thought I heard SI-Drive on Forester for USDM.

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No DI in the 2.5. Get with it Subaru. Maybe the 15 Outback/Leg will get it. the 2.5 needs 185 hp
I am putting money on '15 Legacy/Outback getting it.
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:05 PM   #571
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Hmm...SI drive on the Forester that would be something special for sure..
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:19 PM   #572
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People seemed to hate it before. Why would it be special now?
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I think it will. Sounds like a sophisticated system and it has 250hp. Has Subaru had anything with that much power and not be VTD?




I heard it still has our big friend. Hope they weren't wrong.



I thought I heard SI-Drive on Forester for USDM.



I am putting money on '15 Legacy/Outback getting it.
What, are you trying to get elected?! There's nothing committal but I still like all of your answers!
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:50 AM   #574
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2013 Forester
103.0" Wheelbase
179.5" Length
70.1" Width
66.9" Height

2014 Forester
103.9" Wheelbase
180.9" Length
70.7" Width
68.2" Height
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