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Old 01-22-2013, 07:11 PM   #1801
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I could go for the XT Premium with AWP but if it won't be available as option then I am crossing it off my list. Please God give us a Turbo XV....
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:26 PM   #1802
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I could go for the XT Premium with AWP but if it won't be available as option then I am crossing it off my list. Please God give us a Turbo XV....
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:35 PM   #1803
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What really irritates me is that the All-Weather-Package isn't an option on the XT Premium . This will probably be a deal breaker for us, as the Touring is a bit out of our price range. Our '08xt has heated seats and my wife won't go without them. Paying $5k just to get the only option that we really want is rediculous. Anyone know if we'll be able to retrofit the seat heaters into the premium?
I just noticed the XT Premium is the only trim that comes with some sort of cloth seat with sport bolstering. I'm guessing this has something to do with it. They must not be able to heat that seat easily or they just don't want to. Either way I can see how a good portion of the U.S., if not half of it has no need for the AWP. Then again if someone is looking at a car known for its AWD system I would think they would live in an area that would benefit from it. Either way, you're right it should at least be an option.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:59 PM   #1804
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Were you comparing equal trim levels? Remember the XTs come in the Touring trim the most and that will have several standard features that I am sure will increase weight(along with chassis enhancements).
About 250 lbs from Premium to XT Premium.
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:02 PM   #1805
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Yes! Aftermarket seat heaters are definitely available and can be installed by a reputable shop, even some dealerships might offer it. I haven't had it done myself but recall a friend that did it, and it's not that much money IIRC, like a few hundred dollars.
Had it done for $199 for both front seats a few years back. I'd imagine $250-$400 is a typical range for a pair of front seat heaters to be installed.

AFAIK, no good alternative for the rest of the AWP, though, so toss me into the camp that thinks it'd be ridiculous to not offer AWP on XT Premium.
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:14 PM   #1806
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I just noticed the XT Premium is the only trim that comes with some sort of cloth seat with sport bolstering. I'm guessing this has something to do with it. They must not be able to heat that seat easily or they just don't want to. Either way I can see how a good portion of the U.S., if not half of it has no need for the AWP. Then again if someone is looking at a car known for its AWD system I would think they would live in an area that would benefit from it. Either way, you're right it should at least be an option.
WRX Premium has sport cloth seats and has allowed them to be heated since MY2009.

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Had it done for $199 for both front seats a few years back. I'd imagine $250-$400 is a typical range for a pair of front seat heaters to be installed.

AFAIK, no good alternative for the rest of the AWP, though, so toss me into the camp that thinks it'd be ridiculous to not offer AWP on XT Premium.
See. How much would it cost Subaru to just include it? If someone doesn't want it, then they can just not use it. It would appeal for resale value at the very least.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:04 AM   #1807
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:18 AM   #1808
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I guess it makes sense that they stayed with that approach. I noticed that the Outback 3.6R is packaged the same way (no AWP option on the base 3.6R, but standard on the next trim up). Regardless, I'm sure my local dealers won't even receive an XT Premium . Just Touring models because "That's what everyone wants".
Exactly. We don't want premiums. Took forever to get rid of the 2 we ever got. Now, DIT may change that, but we don't care to risk it till we have requests.

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If its true that AWP is not available on XT Premium, then I will be able to cross this vehicle off my list. The new Hyundai Sante Fe GLS may be next in line...and with a better warranty for a 20kplus DD.
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That's completely insane that AWP isn't included on everything above Base. It doesn't hurt anyone to have it and surely doesn't cost THAT much. If they can put it in the Impreza/WRX/STI at Premium-type trims (standard on all STI since 2008), then I can't see why it's not on the Premium.

It wouldn't be a deal-breaker since auto-start would take care of some of the annoyance, but still, at this point it's just ridiculous not to have it on a Premium model.

I was mad that it wasn't in my 2008 Forester Sports XT. For the asking price it seems like it should've been included. It bothered me every time I looked down to see those switches blocked off from use.

Not sure when it started, but it wasn't 2008. Mine didn't have it.
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:51 AM   #1809
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Not sure when it started, but it wasn't 2008. Mine didn't have it.
Actually, Canadian-spec STI did. Upon further research, 2004+ WRX Premium sedan got it, too.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:08 PM   #1810
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If the new turbo is on par with the JDM-spec STI (maybe more tS?), this could be a big move for Subaru. Where is that track located?
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Guess again.

The 2014 Forester XT Test Drive Event for automotive journalists was held last week at INDE Motorsports Ranch in Wilcox AZ. And I thought journalists' driving impressions were still embargoed - I guess I'm wrong given the internet presence of these videos already.

http://www.indemotorsports.com/site/...MainCourse.pdf

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Old 01-23-2013, 04:22 PM   #1811
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Ok, not sure if this has been covered yet but:

What is the difference in the types of HID's I've seen on Subaru's? i.e. Current WRX/STI+BRZ vs. new Forester or Canadian XV?
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:49 PM   #1812
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Ok, not sure if this has been covered yet but:

What is the difference in the types of HID's I've seen on Subaru's? i.e. Current WRX/STI+BRZ vs. new Forester or Canadian XV?
They've typically all been 35 watt kits. The thing that changes is whether or not they're in a halogen housing or projector housing.
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:24 PM   #1813
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Guess again.

The 2014 Forester XT Test Drive Event for automotive journalists was held last week at INDE Motorsports Ranch in Wilcox AZ. And I thought journalists' driving impressions were still embargoed - I guess I'm wrong given the internet presence of these videos already.

http://www.indemotorsports.com/site/...MainCourse.pdf

The embargo is still in place (until this Friday, 25th) and journalists should not be expressing any "Driving impressions" until then, but they can still provide video of it to a point.
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Old 01-23-2013, 07:30 PM   #1814
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The embargo is still in place (until this Friday, 25th) and journalists should not be expressing any "Driving impressions" until then, but they can still provide video of it to a point.
Got it.

Here's are some blog posts that skate close to the limit.
http://www.motorwayamerica.com/news/...ng-and-tequila

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...2254992&type=1
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...2254992&type=1
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...2254992&type=1
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...2254992&type=1
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...2254992&type=1
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:54 PM   #1815
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They've typically all been 35 watt kits. The thing that changes is whether or not they're in a halogen housing or projector housing.
hmm...ook, thanks. I wonder why would they choose to use halogen housing? Is there any benefit to this?
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:23 PM   #1816
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I just checked. Colors/codes/options are are in for 2014 Forester. XTs only come with a black interior. I don't like that idea. Also, Ice Silver can have either black or gray interior on the regular Forester. Guess they don't call it platinum anymore.
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:29 PM   #1817
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I just want to know what wholesale pricing is, when they will be available, and what inventory is coming my way.
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:38 PM   #1818
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Got it.

Here's are some blog posts that skate close to the limit.
http://www.motorwayamerica.com/news/...ng-and-tequila


So much for the embargo. Idiots.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:09 PM   #1819
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hmm...ook, thanks. I wonder why would they choose to use halogen housing? Is there any benefit to this?
Halogens tend to spread out more and shoot further down the road. Projectors are just cleaner-looking, for drivers and on-coming traffic. Also more intense.

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Old 01-23-2013, 10:16 PM   #1820
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So SOA blog why no option for the AWP on the XT premium? I live in the PNW and have it on our premium Outback. If I spend the $36 large on a 2014 Forester I will then have to look at some of the other larger cars.......maybe a second outback or something with a 3rd row of seating.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:21 PM   #1821
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. If I spend the $36 large on a 2014 Forester I will then have to look at some of the other larger cars.......maybe a second outback or something with a 3rd row of seating.
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BINGO! For me, 27-28 opens up other options.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:39 PM   #1822
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BINGO! For me, 27-28 opens up other options.
Wait for the Tribeca's replacement if that's the case.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:42 PM   #1823
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Or wait for the 2015 model year as Subaru will probably change up/add features or packaging.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:46 PM   #1824
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So much for the embargo. Idiots.
Eh, did you guys read the blog? It's mostly about the resort. Mentions the Forester barely enough to be an article about it.
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:08 PM   #1825
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Or wait for the 2015 model year as Subaru will probably change up/add features or packaging.
They haven't offered AWP on the premium XT in quite a while now
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