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Old 09-26-2012, 10:41 PM   #1
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Hey guys I Have a 09 wrx currently stage 1 torque performance tune with k&n cai and a magnaflow catback i already have a full perrin suspension and also ebc slotted rotors with hawk pads i would like to get to 350-360whp but was wondering if thats safe being on stock motor and tranny

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Will this set up be safe??? I plan on getting a road tune to get me through the winter and then get it dyno tuned in the spring

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Old 09-27-2012, 12:57 AM   #2
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Ditch the bov, could be safe depends on the tune.
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:37 AM   #3
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well fir the motor it depends if ur doggin ur car everywhere u go. if u get on it a few times a week i say u shoukd be fine. as for the transmission u have, ud blow something if ur not always easing it but then at those levels jus flooring it in one gear, it will eventually give out. unless u have one strong transmission which ive seen a couple on this forum that had crazy power but it "eventually" blew. theres 4k right off the bat depending which course u take
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:01 AM   #4
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+1 on ditching the BOV. Go for a full recirculating BPV. Have you upgraded your intercooler yet? That is #1 on your list before even thinking of slapping that turbo on your car. I would also skip the up pipe. Your car already has a catless up pipe, so you are practicality spending money on the same exact thing that will net you zero gains.

Ultimately, you need to talk to your tuner. Tell him your goals. He will work up a parts list for you to go by. E-mail him now.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:15 AM   #5
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+1 on ditching the BOV. Go for a full recirculating BPV. Have you upgraded your intercooler yet? That is #1 on your list before even thinking of slapping that turbo on your car. I would also skip the up pipe. Your car already has a catless up pipe, so you are practicality spending money on the same exact thing that will net you zero gains.

Ultimately, you need to talk to your tuner. Tell him your goals. He will work up a parts list for you to go by. E-mail him now.

This does not answer his question "if this would be safe on the stock motor and transmission"
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:47 AM   #6
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Oh i forgot to mention about the tranny i plan on having a blast shield put in the tranny to make it stronger so thatll help with the tranny

And as for the intercooler like i said i planned on getting a perrin fmic

I heard that most bovs leak for the execption of tial and go fast bits

This is would be a daily driver for now

Thanks for the answers so far
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:30 AM   #7
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Get the Forge BPV. Great oem replacement. Doesn't leak if installed properly with the gasket.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:41 AM   #8
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1000s seem a bit large unless your running e85
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:42 AM   #9
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So 850s would do instead?
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:52 AM   #10
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I wouldn't screw with a bigger turbo without building the motor on a daily driver, but that's me. I don't like walking or waiting for a tow truck.
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Ditch the bov, could be safe depends on the tune.
Get a Meth kit and you will be set
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:42 PM   #12
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Safe is dependent on your tuner, your driver skills and the quality of parts that are making the equation work. This is the tuner industry and there really is no way of saying "safe" as you can blow a completely stock car if you drive it the way a performance car SHOULD be driven (IMO there is no safe...drive it like you stole it everywhere and Subaru can even deny the claim saying it was abuse which I will never understand).

You want safe and reliable, something that starts up and drives every morning with the knowledge that it will last you for pretty much ever??? get a Honda! Something that you can have some fun in while getting around town??? You've already chosen a perfect platform...now it's just to get it where you want it.

TRQ (and high pressure clutches) will kill your trans, and everything else in the car...but to be an idealist, the FMIC, aftermarket turbo and supporting mods will get you to where you want to be, as long as you have an appropriate tuner that will support YOUR goals. The tuner, should be a realist in those matters...which may be someone who you'd like to speak with.

1000cc injectors, far to large for the power output your attempting to achieve, that can be done on 650's.

The Tial can be finicky at part throttle operations but can be tuned in to run like a champ with the proper tune.

The FMIC will deter you from some trq on a smaller frame turbo but with the lack of heatsoak it'll compensate for the lesser boost.

The guys mentioned some great points about the BPV, spending money on the catless up pipe, meth...I'm not to keen on that but that's preference, and with those mods, you can get there, will it be reliable...like it was stated by many...speak with your tuner for YOUR goals, and know that something will break along the way, that's 100+hp/trq being added to the car, remember that.

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Old 09-27-2012, 01:31 PM   #13
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Safe is dependent on your tuner, your driver skills and the quality of parts that are making the equation work. This is the tuner industry and there really is no way of saying "safe" as you can blow a completely stock car if you drive it the way a performance car SHOULD be driven (IMO there is no safe...drive it like you stole it everywhere and Subaru can even deny the claim saying it was abuse which I will never understand).

You want safe and reliable, something that starts up and drives every morning with the knowledge that it will last you for pretty much ever??? get a Honda! Something that you can have some fun in while getting around town??? You've already chosen a perfect platform...now it's just to get it where you want it.

TRQ (and high pressure clutches) will kill your trans, and everything else in the car...but to be an idealist, the FMIC, aftermarket turbo and supporting mods will get you to where you want to be, as long as you have an appropriate tuner that will support YOUR goals. The tuner, should be a realist in those matters...which may be someone who you'd like to speak with.

1000cc injectors, far to large for the power output your attempting to achieve, that can be done on 650's.

The Tial can be finicky at part throttle operations but can be tuned in to run like a champ with the proper tune.

The FMIC will deter you from some trq on a smaller frame turbo but with the lack of heatsoak it'll compensate for the lesser boost.

The guys mentioned some great points about the BPV, spending money on the catless up pipe, meth...I'm not to keen on that but that's preference, and with those mods, you can get there, will it be reliable...like it was stated by many...speak with your tuner for YOUR goals, and know that something will break along the way, that's 100+hp/trq being added to the car, remember that.

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Thanks i will be speaking to my tuner next week thanks for all the input guys
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:11 PM   #14
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as for the record if u decide to go meth/alcohol its hard to do 50/50 or even 70/30 because jus trying to get the right portions is hard to do. even the slightest over do like 72/28 could throw it off cuz its tuned for 70/30 or however its setup. great to keep detenation free almost but can instantly blow ur motor if its daily driven
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as for the record if u decide to go meth/alcohol its hard to do 50/50 or even 70/30 because jus trying to get the right portions is hard to do. even the slightest over do like 72/28 could throw it off cuz its tuned for 70/30 or however its setup. great to keep detenation free almost but can instantly blow ur motor if its daily driven
I have been running meth for 25,000 miles in my DD. Mix it myself 80 / 20. Not one problem.
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I've run 60/40 mix by me eyeballing it for 30k daily driven lots of wot pulls. Not 1 issue. I have aquamist hfs6 if that matters. Lol people worry way to much. Just don't do hard pulls if the low level light is lit up otherwise you'll have some issues.
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well fir the motor it depends if ur doggin ur car everywhere u go. if u get on it a few times a week i say u shoukd be fine. as for the transmission u have, ud blow something if ur not always easing it but then at those levels jus flooring it in one gear, it will eventually give out. unless u have one strong transmission which ive seen a couple on this forum that had crazy power but it "eventually" blew. theres 4k right off the bat depending which course u take
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as for the record if u decide to go meth/alcohol its hard to do 50/50 or even 70/30 because jus trying to get the right portions is hard to do. even the slightest over do like 72/28 could throw it off cuz its tuned for 70/30 or however its setup. great to keep detenation free almost but can instantly blow ur motor if its daily driven
What in the hell are you talking about? Are you 14yrs old?


OP: An 18g isn't going to get you to 350whp without E85 or race gas.
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What will it get me too then???
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I just want more hp and be able to have more fun i plan on doing TT bext years and maybe some dragstrip days but still be reliable enough to be a DD
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What in the hell are you talking about? Are you 14yrs old?

OP: An 18g isn't going to get you to 350whp without E85 or race gas.
why u asking if im 14? cuz the way im typing douchebag? oh how about this, take a **** an shove it up ur ass n keep ur mouth shut. I think i made my opinions clear enough for the average person to understand so why ask "what the hell are you talking about?" u must be stupid to even ask such a dumb question. why dont u elaborate for me for which part u dont comprehend? yes my opinion about meth or alcohol might be "stupid" i guess but going from reputable shops with the information i put out must really ****ing stupid. am I right about motor n trans? i believe so. dont dog it everywhere u go n the motor should be fine at those levels. transmission will jus explode "eventually." you pick up on that? "eventually" want me to say it again? e.v.e.n.t.u.a.l.l.y.
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op: if u do an 18g make it an 18g xt. you will net in the ballpark give or take on dyno's.
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op: if u do an 18g make it an 18g xt. you will net in the ballpark give or take on dyno's.
BrO, he alrdy haz da trbo.

Go through EFIs dyno database and look for ones with similar mods and compare them. What octane gas is available to you? The difference between 91 and 93 is fairly substantial.
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I have 93
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why u asking if im 14? cuz the way im typing douchebag? oh how about this, take a **** an shove it up ur ass n keep ur mouth shut. I think i made my opinions clear enough for the average person to understand so why ask "what the hell are you talking about?" u must be stupid to even ask such a dumb question. why dont u elaborate for me for which part u dont comprehend? yes my opinion about meth or alcohol might be "stupid" i guess but going from reputable shops with the information i put out must really ****ing stupid. am I right about motor n trans? i believe so. dont dog it everywhere u go n the motor should be fine at those levels. transmission will jus explode "eventually." you pick up on that? "eventually" want me to say it again? e.v.e.n.t.u.a.l.l.y.
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BrO, he alrdy haz da trbo.

Go through EFIs dyno database and look for ones with similar mods and compare them. What octane gas is available to you? The difference between 91 and 93 is fairly substantial.
didnt read he already purchased the 18g. My fault. 93 oct
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