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Old 02-21-2016, 03:57 PM   #1
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The Porsche 911 R has been spied testing with minimal disguise, ahead of its speculated launch at the Geneva motor show next year.

The manual-only stablemate of the GT3 and GT3 RS carries no badging in these early spy shots, although a twin central exhaust set-up, with a distinct rear diffuser but no rear wing, suggests it is the 'pure' 911 variant first reported by Autocar in June of this year. These latest spy shots also show the test mule running on the new wheels, also recently seen in spy shots of the upcoming facelifted 911 GT3.

Porsche's hardcore 911 is expected to launch early in 2017, with next March's Geneva motor show being the most likely setting for the new car to make its debut.

The new model is likely to pay tribute to the original 911 R, which celebrates its 50th anniversary in 2017. It's expected that the 911 R will be a permanent addition to the 911 family, rather than being a limited-run special edition. The new car is thought to be an entirely distinct entity from any that have been seen in the 16 years since the introduction of the original GT3 in 1999.

Porsche is putting a focus on simple driving pleasure with the 911 R, meaning it will be radically different from the track-based RS models and the standard GT cars that are designed to be usable every day.

The new car will not be engineered specifically to set competitive lap times or provide a sensible means of daily transport. Instead, it will be set up to maximise feel, response and driver interaction. Crucially, it will mark the return of the manual gearbox to the 911 GT range for the first time since the demise of the 997 generation in 2011.

As is clear from the spy shots, the new car is expected to lose much of the aerodynamic addenda that have become synonymous with GT models and come with the narrower body used by base-spec 911s, with the large rear wing of the GT models conspicuous by its absence.

It will most likely have skinnier, less grippy tyres and a chassis set-up dedicated less to generating grip and more towards providing a friendly on-limit balance.

The engine is likely to be similar or identical to the normally aspirated 3.8-litre unit used by the current GT3, despite the move to turbocharging for all non-GT 911s at the end of this year, although Porsche remains tight-lipped about the 911 R's existence, so could not confirm any details about the 911 R.


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Old 02-21-2016, 04:33 PM   #2
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Love it - any regrets on the GT4 order Avanti???
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There it is, gents.
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Is it physically possible to regret getting a GT4? Does the human body even work like that?
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Old 02-21-2016, 08:20 PM   #5
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[quote=E. Nick;44203369]Love it - any regrets on the GT4 order Avanti???[/QUOTE

Nopers , I can honestly say it is the perfect car for me anyway. That's why I was so down when I sold my old Cayman. It's wrapped around ya. Everything is fluid, SOLID, chiseled from piece of granite. Brakes, shifter, rack smooth the old extension of your body applies. Fit finish perfect for the money. Just throw brakes and tires on it and leave the rest alone well maybe exhaust down the road. Yes I am real happy. Now the Golf R, just get a GTI It cost me 40k to learn that. Z06 piece of GM ****, get a Lt1 Z51 put 40k in your pocket. S8 love it for long hauls with four fat Amricans. But if I was to do it again I would get an RS7. The M4 was a tail happy video game that didn't like mornings especially if it was below 40 out. The M2 is the buy over at BarfMotorWorks.

Forgot. Here's a link on the z06 z51 choice
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Old 02-21-2016, 10:30 PM   #6
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Nopers , I can honestly say it is the perfect car for me anyway. That's why I was so down when I sold my old Cayman. It's wrapped around ya. Everything is fluid, SOLID, chiseled from piece of granite. Brakes, shifter, rack smooth the old extension of your body applies. Fit finish perfect for the money. Just throw brakes and tires on it and leave the rest alone well maybe exhaust down the road. Yes I am real happy. Now the Golf R, just get a GTI It cost me 40k to learn that. Z06 piece of GM ****, get a Lt1 Z51 put 40k in your pocket. S8 love it for long hauls with four fat Amricans. But if I was to do it again I would get an RS7. The M4 was a tail happy video game that didn't like mornings especially if it was below 40 out. The M2 is the buy over at BarfMotorWorks.

Forgot. Here's a link on the z06 z51 choice
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2015-...term-update-5/
Cool - glad to hear. My number was finally called for the 3RS - planning on EU delivery but will likely sell it when it gets back here. This thing looks interesting though...
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Well they had to find a home for all those refurbished 9A1 GT3 engines after ze firestorms
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Cool - glad to hear. My number was finally called for the 3RS - planning on EU delivery but will likely sell it when it gets back here. This thing looks interesting though...
911R manual swap into the GT3RS
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This will be THE 911 to have. Air cooled purists have been bemoaning about the water cooled GT cars the steering feel for what a decade now. IF this car truly calls up the lineage of a good feeling air cooled car, then it will be the instant collectable no questions asked buy it now car. Trust me on this.
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This will be THE 911 to have. Air cooled purists have been bemoaning about the water cooled GT cars the steering feel for what a decade now. IF this car truly calls up the lineage of a good feeling air cooled car, then it will be the instant collectable no questions asked buy it now car. Trust me on this.
If pigs fly and they put a hydraulic rack in this, then yeah, I'd call it a direct descendant of the older 911s.
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Actually they would need a manual rack if they want to be really true, right?
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Actually they would need a manual rack if they want to be really true, right?
They won't do it - expect this to be a parts bin special, but they have a very nice parts bin to pull from, so it might be swanlike in feel regardless.
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Sometimes the whole is greater than the sum if its parts. That has proven true on many special cars of the past.
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Any 911 with a S on it is fine by me. I just wish they would pass along some savings in exchange rates now.
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True, but the steering is a very, very large part. Other than the seat, it's the only part that your body has direct contact with constantly.

I heard Porsche has stepped up their EPS compared to its initial version, but I find it hard to believe it will be as connected as a hydraulic rack. Could get "close enough" though (unless you're a stubborn purist ).
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Wonder how much they'll charge for this slower 911.
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Between the GTS and GT3? Or maybe below the GTS, since it's a narrow-body and all. But I'd expect it on either side of the GTS.

Definitely below the GT3.
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2016 Porsche 911 R: The Purist's Porsche


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Despondent over Porsche’s migration with the rest of the auto world to boosted engines and automatic transmissions? Behold this ray of sunshine: Porsche has a new 911 R that combines just what you want/need—a hot naturally aspirated engine, six shift-’em-yourself gears, and a clutch pedal all in one tantalizing package.


Half a century ago, Porsche applied this secret code (R = Racing) for a 911 aimed at rallying, Targa Florio road racing, and speed-record attempts. In the same spirit, the 2016 edition marries the lightest 911 body to the most potent non-turbo engine in inventory. Built on the outgoing 991.1 series instead of Porsche’s new-for-2017 991.2, the R is said to weigh just 3020 pounds and is armed with the 500-hp 4.0-liter flat-six from the GT3 RS. With 338 lb-ft of torque at a lofty 6250 rpm and power peaking at 8250 rpm, this is the leadfoot’s 911 with revs to burn.


Underlying the 6.0-pounds-per-horsepower achievement are some extreme weight-saving measures. The front fenders, luggage-compartment lid, and seat backrests are molded carbon fiber. The roof is crafted from a sheet of magnesium. The 20-inch wheels are forged-aluminum pieces with racing-inspired center-lock retention. The exhaust system is titanium. There’s no A/C, audio system, or rear seats (air conditioning and audio are on the options list for those who can’t bear to go without). Less than the normal amount of cockpit insulation is used here. In lieu of the GT3’s rear wing, the decklid is fitted with a lighter, aerodynamically simpler spoiler, which rises when needed to enhance stability in conjunction with a fixed undercar diffuser.

Carbon-ceramic brake rotors are 16.1 inches in diameter in front and 15.4 inches at the rear. Tire sizes are 245/35R-20 front and 305/30R-20 rear. A limited-slip differential and rear-axle steering are essential parts of this package. Porsche claims a top speed of 200 mph and 60 mph acceleration from rest in 3.7 seconds. A tight gear-ratio spread and a short shift lever are 911 R features for obvious reasons.


Decorative touches are red or green center stripes (a throwback to 1967), optional side-mounted Porsche logos, houndstooth cloth upholstery, a smaller 14.1-inch-diameter steering wheel, and fabric loops replacing the normal interior door pulls.

Only 991 examples of this instant collectible will be manufactured for worldwide consumption. The Porsche 911 R costs $185,950, and deliveries commence this summer.
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That interior.. OH man, me likey a lot. Those seats are retro modern in all the right ways.

Oh how I dread only becoming an engineer... should have studied finance so I could be a 1%er.

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No AC No audio, no back seat.. LOLOLOL... Porsche has a license to print money. Imagine how much more it would cost with no windows. More for less.

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I have no words...I love the entire design theme of this car. Well done. Makes me want to go drive NOW.
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Make those seats and that fabric an option in every model.
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It only makes sense that they would tap into this market. Singer has obviously shown there are a lot of people willing to drop $300k+ on something in this vein, why not tap into the multitudes of people who would drop $190k on something more mass market?
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