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Old 10-03-2012, 07:53 AM   #1
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Default Went from 205/55*/16 to 225/45/17 alignment now off, why?

So quick details my summer tires are the stock wheels on a 04 wrx, 205/55/16, they have continental DWs on them. My buddy with a 08 wrx sold me his snow tires on 08 stock rims, 225/45/17. I put them on properly inflated them and now the car pulls to the left slightly and I have to hold the wheel cocked a bit to keep it straight. I never had this happen before when switching out tires like this. Is it possible the larger width and rim size is getting thrown off? Or maybe his alignment was bad before and wore the tires wrong? Ideas would be awesome as I can't really narrow it down except that everyone seems to say it shouldn't mess with alignment. I am going to try to swap the front tires to the back (they are directional) and see if that helps.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:00 AM   #2
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You may try just swapping the right or left side only, front to rear. Wear could affect a pull, but the tire may have roadforce runout, on a worn tire can be difficult correct. My bet is there is a slight difference in tread left and you need to match the position they came off his car.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:07 AM   #3
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You may try just swapping the right or left side only, front to rear. Wear could affect a pull, but the tire may have roadforce runout, on a worn tire can be difficult correct. My bet is there is a slight difference in tread left and you need to match the position they came off his car.
Thank you, sir. That is my plan today. Im hoping its not a defect in the tire and just I put the Rear on the front and vice versa causing the pull
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:29 AM   #4
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Another thing is make sure that they aren't the type of tires that require you to have the tread facing a certain direction. They'll usually have an arrow on them to point the right way. Also some tires have an outside and an inside. Make sure you don't have one backwards.
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:32 AM   #5
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okay so I finally had time to swap tires. I swapped the front and read on driver side, still pulled left. So i figured, hell let me try the passenger side so i swapped those front to rear. Still pulls to the left... I dont quite understand, my only guess is the wider and lower profile tires somehow dont match up to my toe and camber??? Just a complete guess, so looking to see if anyone has some insight.
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:23 PM   #6
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i would be worried about this for about 1/2 of one second
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Why would I not be worried? Or at least concerned? My alignment managed to change after putting on different tires so I am trying to figure out if the tires are bad in which case I'll get my money back before going for an alignment and wasting money.
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your alignment did NOT change....unless they bent the car when they put it on the lift

THAT would be impossible.....and that is why i wouldnt be worried about it

and a 'slight' pull to the left that wasnt there before???

yep...about 1/2 second is all its worth
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What was your friend thinking putting 225 snow tires on. OEM 08' tire width is 205. Fat tires don't help in the snow......
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your alignment did NOT change....unless they bent the car when they put it on the lift

THAT would be impossible.....and that is why i wouldnt be worried about it

and a 'slight' pull to the left that wasnt there before???

yep...about 1/2 second is all its worth
I'm not trying to say the alignment got messed up per se, but my theory was that the wider, lower profile tire did not track the same as the thinner summer tire. Im not a mechanic hence why I asked here, no need to make me look like an idiot for not understanding that my theory didn't make sense.

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What was your friend thinking putting 225 snow tires on. OEM 08' tire width is 205. Fat tires don't help in the snow......
I know this, Im not sure why he didn't put the stock size on, but when he offered them for cheap i figured wider snow tires are better than none.
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I'm not trying to say the alignment got messed up per se, but my theory was that the wider, lower profile tire did not track the same as the thinner summer tire. Im not a mechanic hence why I asked here, no need to make me look like an idiot for not understanding that my theory didn't make sense.



i WAS just gonna call ya an idiot and be done with it......but i DID try to 'splain it

but i guess when people figure out that they dont have a clue...they get pissy



sorry d000000d...but ya might learn sumthin yet if ya stay around here for a while
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What was your friend thinking putting 225 snow tires on. OEM 08' tire width is 205. Fat tires don't help in the snow......
d0000000000000d....THAT isnt any big deal...really

REALLY

none at all
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:39 PM   #13
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I think what confuses me is I think you're being sarcastic all the time, when you're just helping. In that case thanks for the help
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I think what confuses me is I think you're being sarcastic all the time, when you're just helping. In that case thanks for the help


d000000000000d....like i said....stick around...ill learn ya sumthin

and ill let ya know when im bein sarcastic with ya
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