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Old 10-02-2012, 11:32 PM   #1
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I am hitting a point where I am considering a change in my career direction.

I graduated high school 7th in my class, was accepted into a top tier university, have received the equivalent of an associates and then went part time working and career exploring and eventually declared a mechanical/manufacturing engineering major this last semester. I found myself more and more not liking where I was, but this is the only option that even remotely appealed to me. I am married, and I just found out my wife is having a baby. I have been re-thinking my whole life philosophy and trying to decide what is really more important to me

If I had all the money in the world, I would just be a car mechanic. I didn't grow up around cars, but I am very mechanically minded, can fix just about anything, and these are the things I do for fun in my spare time. My only experience has been in the last couple of years mainly with my subaru, but more recently taking on just about anything with friends and family vehicles. But cars are really my passion. At 16 I could tell you stock HP and performance numbers of 90% of the cars on the road, I used to spend hours in my 1988 oldsmobile (yeah, it was a V6 ) that I drove in high school just fixing the crap that was all falling apart, even with making custom wood interior trim for the arm rests and center console. Learning all this on my own.

My wife and I were talking about how much I hated school, and she told me that I should just be a mechanic. Honestly, I never considered it as an option because a 4-year or more degree was what was expected. Realistically, I would probably have to attend a a trade school of some sort to get to the point where I would be wanted, because there is a whole lot I don't know. But is that the only way? How many mechanics are trained in this way or do you just get a job at a shop and get training there? These weren't the kind of jobs that my high school/ college exploration classes covered.

I am pretty sure I am not just hitting a rough spot that will go away, but do I just push myself through school anyway and live my life for a paycheck doing something I might not enjoy? Would it be "throwing away my potential" to do something that I really want to do?

Mostly, I am looking for other people who went through something similar, maybe dropped out of college or stuck through it and have some advice to give.

Flame me all you want and just tell me to quit b****ing if you really think that's what I need to hear too.

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Old 10-02-2012, 11:33 PM   #2
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:39 PM   #3
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Fixing cars for a living will make you hate it and, it doesn't pay unless you open your own shop/station.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:44 PM   #4
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What are you doing right now?

You can use your good mechanical abilities to fix big expensive machines and make the big bucks later on. I dropped out of a 5 year program (sort of), and got an Associates and a cert in nanofabrication. School sucks, but my biggest regret is not just changing my major and finishing up my BS. I am now looking at programs to better fit what I am passionate about.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:47 PM   #5
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Its great to follow you're dreams, but you should keep in mind that you're having a baby soon and those things aren't cheap. Stay where you're financially secure, and if you're not now then get there.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:48 PM   #6
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I'm in a similar situation, but I'm choosing to stick out school. I basically chose my major by looking at the list of offerings and picking the one that was "good enough." The school I'm at is great, the professors are great, the program is great...and I do like it and I am doing well. That said, I've never felt cut out for school and desk jobs in general because my brain works quite slowly and I get easily overwhelmed when I have to think about more than one thing at once. It actually gets to the point where my brain might lock up and I get angry. I'd much rather get a job entailing manual labor...as bad as that may sound. Give me a choice of a shovel and a computer screen...I'll go dig all day. But for whatever reason, that's not how I chose my future. Ah well, I'm 20.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:50 PM   #7
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What are you doing right now?

You can use your good mechanical abilities to fix big expensive machines and make the big bucks later on. I dropped out of a 5 year program (sort of), and got an Associates and a cert in nanofabrication. School sucks, but my biggest regret is not just changing my major and finishing up my BS. I am now looking at programs to better fit what I am passionate about.
My family owns a restaurant that I manage, so I do this full time and still working on school part time. They both suck, but it pays the bills and tuition.

And you mean BS programs? Or other certs?

And a quick google search took me to a neighboring university (some of my friends go there and like it) with an automotive technology 4 year degree. This might be my best option right now.
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Let me ask you this question

1. Would doing what you love, meet the life style you want to have?

If no, well then you need to suck it up and get that nice piece of paper, network the **** out of yourself and find a job that will support the lifestyle you want. I wanted to be a high school or college history teacher and I still do. However this will not pay for the life style I want or have been accustomed to.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:54 PM   #9
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I'm in a similar situation, but I'm choosing to stick out school. I basically chose my major by looking at the list of offerings and picking the one that was "good enough." The school I'm at is great, the professors are great, the program is great...and I do like it and I am doing well. That said, I've never felt cut out for school and desk jobs in general because my brain works quite slowly and I get easily overwhelmed when I have to think about more than one thing at once. It actually gets to the point where my brain might lock up and I get angry. I'd much rather get a job entailing manual labor...as bad as that may sound. Give me a choice of a shovel and a computer screen...I'll go dig all day. But for whatever reason, that's not how I chose my future. Ah well, I'm 20.
Although I am very handy with computers as well and can program/network just about anything, definitely give me the shovel. And I think I was in your shoes last year and picked the best one, but it still isn't cutting it?
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Fixing cars for a living will make you hate it and, it doesn't pay unless you open your own shop/station.
This is what I hear too. Makes me glad I didn't try to do it for a career.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:58 PM   #11
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Let me ask you this question

1. Would doing what you love, meet the life style you want to have?

If no, well then you need to suck it up and get that nice piece of paper, network the **** out of yourself and find a job that will support the lifestyle you want. I wanted to be a high school or college history teacher and I still do. However this will not pay for the life style I want or have been accustomed to.
I grew up in a comfortable home, but far FAR from wealthy. My parents knew how to budget and we made by. And my wife and I are ten times more financially stable than her parents... Although having 80k/year as an engineer is something that sounds nice, I think I honestly am comfortable with 50k, which really isn't much more than we make now. We have been considering buying a (small) house, I have some money put aside for emergencies, and I have a little play money for my car. Granted babies are going to probably change that...
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:59 PM   #12
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Fixing cars for a living will make you hate it and, it doesn't pay unless you open your own shop/station.
Do you know from experience...? I don't know any mechanics personally to ask them.
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I grew up in a comfortable home, but far FAR from wealthy. My parents knew how to budget and we made by. And my wife and I are ten times more financially stable than her parents... Although having 80k/year as an engineer is something that sounds nice, I think I honestly am comfortable with 50k, which really isn't much more than we make now. We have been considering buying a (small) house, I have some money put aside for emergencies, and I have a little play money for my car. Granted babies are going to probably change that...
Okay, but is that the lifestyle YOU WANT? Or, do you prefer to have a life style that gives you a little bit more of a cushion in your retirement, more play money, more money to set aside, etc. Things you really need to consider.

Short term pain, long term gain.
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I am hitting a point where I am considering a change in my career direction.

I graduated high school 7th in my class, was accepted into a top tier university, have received the equivalent of an associates and then went part time working and career exploring and eventually declared a mechanical/manufacturing engineering major this last semester. I found myself more and more not liking where I was, but this is the only option that even remotely appealed to me. I am married, and I just found out my wife is having a baby. I have been re-thinking my whole life philosophy and trying to decide what is really more important to me

If I had all the money in the world, I would just be a car mechanic. I didn't grow up around cars, but I am very mechanically minded, can fix just about anything, and these are the things I do for fun in my spare time. My only experience has been in the last couple of years mainly with my subaru, but more recently taking on just about anything with friends and family vehicles. But cars are really my passion. At 16 I could tell you stock HP and performance numbers of 90% of the cars on the road, I used to spend hours in my 1988 oldsmobile (yeah, it was a V6 ) that I drove in high school just fixing the crap that was all falling apart, even with making custom wood interior trim for the arm rests and center console. Learning all this on my own.

My wife and I were talking about how much I hated school, and she told me that I should just be a mechanic. Honestly, I never considered it as an option because a 4-year or more degree was what was expected. Realistically, I would probably have to attend a a trade school of some sort to get to the point where I would be wanted, because there is a whole lot I don't know. But is that the only way? How many mechanics are trained in this way or do you just get a job at a shop and get training there? These weren't the kind of jobs that my high school/ college exploration classes covered.

I am pretty sure I am not just hitting a rough spot that will go away, but do I just push myself through school anyway and live my life for a paycheck doing something I might not enjoy? Would it be "throwing away my potential" to do something that I really want to do?

Mostly, I am looking for other people who went through something similar, maybe dropped out of college or stuck through it and have some advice to give.

Flame me all you want and just tell me to quit b****ing if you really think that's what I need to hear too.

CN: 4-year education or do what I love?


Graduate 7th in high school, go to top tier university?

Get associates?

Having a kid?

Want to go to trade school?

something doesnt add up.
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Graduate 7th in high school, go to top tier university?

Get associates?

Having a kid?

Want to go to trade school?

something doesnt add up.
Let me some it up for you.


He was probably raised in Utah and went to the University of Utah for engineering.

I could be wrong. But just a guess. If im right, it adds up.
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Let me some it up for you.


He was probably raised in Utah and went to the University of Utah for engineering.

I could be wrong. But just a guess. If im right, it adds up.
very plausible. Top tier not found in that case.

also when did OP get the 09 car?
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Okay, but is that the lifestyle YOU WANT? Or, do you prefer to have a life style that gives you a little bit more of a cushion in your retirement, more play money, more money to set aside, etc. Things you really need to consider.

Short term pain, long term gain.
At what point does that statement make not make sense though? Working 70+ hour weeks is not really the way I would live my life even if I was making over a million a year. That is an extreme, but really to what extent should being happy now take priority?

What realistically would a good mechanic make in a year anyway?
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Graduate 7th in high school, go to top tier university?

Get associates?

Having a kid?

Want to go to trade school?

something doesnt add up.
no it doesn't even come close to adding up... unless he means accepted to a top tier university, but can not afford top tier university and opted for associates degree from lower tier school
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Let me some it up for you.

He was probably raised in Utah and went to the University of Utah for engineering.

I could be wrong. But just a guess. If im right, it adds up.
Actually BYU. Number 40 for highest paid entry level jobs and somewhere in the top ten for grad school acceptance rates. I would call that top tier...

But you're pretty good.
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Actually BYU. Number 40 for highest paid entry level jobs and somewhere in the top ten for grad school acceptance rates. I would call that top tier...

But you're pretty good.
But maybe that is part of the problem... I dislike 90% of BYU students...
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also when did OP get the 09 car?
About three weeks before I found out my wife was pregnant...
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Actually BYU. Number 40 for highest paid entry level jobs and somewhere in the top ten for grad school acceptance rates. I would call that top tier...

But you're pretty good.
that sounds about right. 82nd in engineering (out 1,400).

http://news.byu.edu/archive11-sep-usnews2012.aspx

I would suggest you think about the bigger picture... you're not finding a career just for yourself... you have a wife and are about to have a child... the choices you make now have a very real effect on the three of you... don't pick short term happy. Pick long term career and opportunity. You can always retire to play with cars later and still do so on the weekends.
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Just out of curiosity, but how old are you, and how long were you going to college before deciding it was not for you. Its easy to get burned out when going. I just keep telling myself 1 more year, 1 more year.
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Just out of curiosity, but how old are you, and how long were you going to college before deciding it was not for you. Its easy to get burned out when going. I just keep telling myself 1 more year, 1 more year.
24. And I have been going for 3 years, starting my fourth, somewhere in the middle of my junior year. I spent a lot of time deciding a major...
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Just out of curiosity, but how old are you, and how long were you going to college before deciding it was not for you. Its easy to get burned out when going. I just keep telling myself 1 more year, 1 more year.
especially while working full-time, go to school part-time, and have wife and baby.
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