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Old 03-17-2011, 01:57 AM   #1
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Arrow Prova (yellow) mirror overlays installed! (pics)

I have been thinking about getting these for over two years now... I always wanted convex mirrors and especially loved the yellow ones that prova made.
That being said though I have read MANY many reviews about how people are just digusted that they put the mirror overlays on, and then come out and find that the damn mirror is on the ground broken... Prova only uses a patch of foam double sided tape which when I looked at it, really does look like butt... I can't even imagine it holding one summer when it peaks over 90 degrees...

So I dug around and came across a jdm power folding mirror how to.. Pretty much he used a heat gun to take the mirror off. I said wow, this is genius... I will do the same with the prova.

Anyways, I was not happy with how they looked on the stock mirrors because they stuck out... and fitment is kinda crappy to me like that: See pic for reference *Not my car but this is what made me want to get the mirrors:


You can see the entire edge in that picture... especially if you point the mirror you can see that it's doubled up... On top of that the design is bad because you have double sided tape in the MIDDLE so that means dirt, dust, water, will go ALL around the prova mirror and start to affect the double sided tape... thus ending in a broken mirror or having the freaking thing fall off when you are on the highway... Sorry but 130 for mirrors is expensive to me and I don't want them to fall off.

So I found the follow pics:




Here are my pics:



Stock mirror held in place because in this picture I already took the mirror out.


Stock back plate, CLEAN VERY WELL before attaching new mirror!!


Here is mirror in the base, but not held in with any windo weld urathane.


Looks factory now:


So in closing... if you are going to get these mirrors I HIGHLY recommend removing the old mirror first then using 3m window urathane to secure in place.. it won't move or fall out and you can rest asure that it's in there. (plus I like the reassurance that some douche wouldn't try taking a credit card and try to detact the prova from the stock mirror, which you could do...)

It was not hard at all to use a heatgun to lift the stock mirror out... start in the center of the mirror and then just keep the heat gun moving, as soon as you are able to get a plastic piece ( I used a plastic squeegy that came with my headlight armor jdm fog overlays from 2007..lol, and SMALL, blunt (NON SHARP) plastic tool will work, even a plastic throw away spoon would work in this case.) into the corner you just start pushing a little more on the plastic piece and the heat is making the mirror come off... took me 10 mins on the driver side and it too me 2 mins on the passenger side since I knew what I was doing... overall very very pleased that I found the one how to, because, these look SOOO much nicer in the stock housing than just slapped on the stock mirror. Plus as you can see in the last picture the subaru "lip" that surrounds the mirror does in fact surround the prova so that means less dirt and grime will get back there... Will try and get some day time pics in the morning!

Note when using the 3m windo weld, DONT gob that stuff everywhere because it's hell to clean it off, plus I don't know if it would damage or ruin the coating on the front mirror... Just use a little at the mounting points that you see on the stock backing plate.. then once you push the mirror into place and get it where you want, I highly recommend using blue painters tape and TAPING the mirror and secure it so that the windo weld has time to cure for 24hrs or at least OVERNIGHT.. then in the morning take the tape off and never have to worry about the mirror "dropping" off.

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Old 03-17-2011, 02:12 AM   #2
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Nice work.
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:15 AM   #3
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Nice write up mate, very well done
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:55 AM   #4
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Very nice!

OP, what are the perceived benefits of changing to a yellow-tinted mirror-glass? Meaning, other than looks, does having them have any advantages such as cutting down on headlight glare at night, etc?

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Old 03-17-2011, 09:24 AM   #5
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OP, what are the perceived benefits of changing to a yellow-tinted mirror-glass? Meaning, other than looks, does having them have any advantages such as cutting down on headlight glare at night, etc?
They look great. But, I'm with Big-E. Any benefit?
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:28 AM   #6
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Where did you order these?
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Old 03-17-2011, 10:37 AM   #7
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That looks sharp! I presume the yellow is intended to cut down on nighttime glare and not just to look...yellow, right?
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:02 AM   #8
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also interested in where you get these at
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:19 AM   #9
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Prodrives description says blue is more for anti-glare and yellow is for night time driving
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:31 PM   #10
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sexy, These caught my eye when i saw them, solid how-to.
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:58 PM   #11
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Got them from rallysportdirect...seems to be the place other than japanparts that carries them.

Yes yellow cuts down on the night time blinding glare... plus I love how the yellow looks, it's freaking awesome. I don't drive a vw, bmw, or lesus so I think blue looks weird because it doesn't fit with the japanese theme.. but that's me..lol

The driver side is convex so it's a little to get used to and adjustment wise.. the passenger side mirror is already convex and the prova actually fits in the houseing a little bit better due to the plastic tray being convex as well... overall though very happy with these with the above modifications done... I'd never just stick these on the stock mirrors, I'd always be afraid one day that that's the day they are on the ground broken...

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Old 03-17-2011, 03:33 PM   #12
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I found them on fast wrx as well http://www.fastwrx.com/prcosimile.html

However, it looks like they are much cheaper on rallysportdirect.

I think i'm going to get a set!

Do you have a picture from a few feet away?
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:51 PM   #13
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I found them on fast wrx as well http://www.fastwrx.com/prcosimile.html

However, it looks like they are much cheaper on rallysportdirect.

I think i'm going to get a set!

Do you have a picture from a few feet away?


I emailed Dan to see if they would price match since he's like 15 mins away... he simply replied sorry we don't have these in stock, and completely ignored my other question... oh well. But yea their prices are always higher for some reason... I think I stopped going to their site after they quoted me $150 to drill and tap my header for my defi EGT gauge.. Ended up getting it done at a machine shop for $15.

I will get some pics up here shortly.

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Looks great! I'm curious, is this possible with heated mirrors?
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:26 PM   #15
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If the heating element is on the base and NOT in the mirror then I would imagine these would work.. if the heating element is in the actual mirror then then probaby won't work.

Some outside pics.. it's super bright so pics aren't that great.

Don't mind the towel, I had it cure overnight but just a precaution I put the towels there..lol Hasn't been 24hrs yet...








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Looks awesome man. I'm sold. Thanks!

I was mostly curious because i have an 06 Aspen white. Knowing what these look like on another aspen white subaru has sold me.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:49 PM   #17
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I REALLY like this. Looks great.
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Old 03-17-2011, 10:21 PM   #18
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I am just about ready to click on the order button
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Old 03-22-2011, 02:29 AM   #19
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Figured I'd update.

Night driving is freaking awesome, no more is there light that blinds you in the mirrors... I now wish I didn't have the auto dimming rear view mirror as I'd get the yellow prova for that as well...

It is taking some time to adjust to the CONVEX driver side mirror.. you really hhave to turn over your shoulder ( I did anyways ) and make sure that the car is not right behind you since the mirror makes it appear that they are further away... with that being said there are zero blind spots now, which is awesome!..

Very pleased with these!

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Properly adjusted mirrors eliminate glare from following drivers as well as blind spots. Overlays aren't necessary unless you like how they look.

Mirror Adjustment

I've been driving with my mirrors adjusted this way for YEARS. After a short adjustment period, I'd never drive with mirrors adjusted any other way...unless towing, but that's another topic altogether.

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Old 03-22-2011, 08:41 AM   #21
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Figured I'd update.

Night driving is freaking awesome, no more is there light that blinds you in the mirrors... I now wish I didn't have the auto dimming rear view mirror as I'd get the yellow prova for that as well...

It is taking some time to adjust to the CONVEX driver side mirror.. you really hhave to turn over your shoulder ( I did anyways ) and make sure that the car is not right behind you since the mirror makes it appear that they are further away... with that being said there are zero blind spots now, which is awesome!..

Very pleased with these!

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Looks very good!

I have been reading that in some European countries that they have decided to go with convex mirrors for both sides so that you don't end-up backing over someone such as a child; this is for overall safety for those outside of the vehicle.

As correctly stated one must realize that while a convex mirror provides a wider range of vision, it effectively distorts the image in making it appear farther away than it actually is. So as Nigel said, you must take this into account and look over your shoulder much more instead of just relying on [looking into] the mirror itself.

Hmmm, a new mod for my Subie perhaps? I think I will consider this along with a RHD RH door mirror to get an even wider plane of vision - I'm tall and the RH mirror is maxed out and does not give me what I need in terms of outer-most vision setting.

Again, looks great! I'll PM you one day soon if I need some install tips.
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Properly adjusted mirrors eliminate glare from following drivers as well as blind spots. Overlays aren't necessary unless you like how they look.

Mirror Adjustment

I've been driving with my mirrors adjusted this way for YEARS. After a short adjustment period, I'd never drive with mirrors adjusted any other way...unless towing, but that's another topic altogether.

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Seems similar to my method, except I visit my local shopping center and look for a parking space that I can drive thru onto the other side with cars on either side. Once found I pull in and adjust my mirrors so I can see the two cars in my side mirrors and as much of the rear window as possible thru the rear view mirror. I then roll forward and back until I minimize any blind spots from the sides. Once set, off I go... Hasn't failed me yet. After an initial adjustment you can fine tune if necessary...
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I went back and reread your post because I have ordered my RHD RH mirror from Japan Parts and want to do this conversion with the Prova yellow lenses.

So to summarize and please edit if incorrect or unnecessary:
*To remove OEM glass, heat mirror-base edge with heatgun/hair-dryer
*Use non-sharp plastic tool to pull OEM mirror-glass off of mirror-base
*Remove mirror-base from mirror-head to properly clean; clean and then reinstall
*Prep new Prova mirror glass (make sure it is clean)
*Heat mirror-base
*Install suitable adhesive (e.g. 3m Window Weld) to Prova mirror or mirror-base? NOTE: this is to prevent the glass from falling off or being stolen?
*While mirror-base is still warm, install Prova mirror glass
*Hold Prova glass in place while mirror-base cools
*Use automotive masking tape to hold glass in place/onto mirror-base
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Seems similar to my method, except I visit my local shopping center and look for a parking space that I can drive thru onto the other side with cars on either side. Once found I pull in and adjust my mirrors so I can see the two cars in my side mirrors and as much of the rear window as possible thru the rear view mirror. I then roll forward and back until I minimize any blind spots from the sides. Once set, off I go... Hasn't failed me yet. After an initial adjustment you can fine tune if necessary...

Oooo I like it. Much more efficient than my method. I'm going to have to give this a try tomorrow.
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Old 03-23-2011, 06:55 PM   #25
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That looks great! But geez, $150 for some overlays? For that price you would think it would include the whole backing so you can just pop off the old mirror and put on the new one.
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