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Old 09-01-2008, 11:11 PM   #1
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Default another bugeye ebay dual beam retrofit- poorman's jdm

i felt bad uglying up brcewane's thread with my progress, so go here to see an awesome retrofit:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=962510

here's what i've been doing.

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front element from OEM lights
ebay dual beam lights
06 wrx projectors
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silicon sealant
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shroud materials of your choosing

what i did to start:

-paint the ebay dualbeam headlight housing to your liking
-trim the clear covers so they will fit over the ebay housings


-take the glass off of the hi-beam, since it will be covered by the oem housing cover.
-install and seal cover with silicon.
-install some low beams. i was in a hurry to get them together so i put in sealed h3 fog lights and wired them to my low beams on my previously made relay harness.
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obviously, fog lights don't work for low beams and i only did it because i was pressed for time. so, back in:

i took 06 wrx h7 projectors and made brackets for them, also put on shrouds made from a chrome plastic bracelet i cut in half and an stovetop grease trap bezel thingy.


the tough part of this is mounting the large projector(most projectors are too wide for the ebay housing tunnels) to the headlight housing. for this, i am using L brackets, JB weld, and bolts.

the shroud will go into the tunnel and the mounting plates will be outside of it on the tabs. we'll see how it works soon. i'm guessing not well. aiming these is going to be near impossible.

I also hated the look of the lights so to JDM them up i put electrical tape on the front. this is the poorman's version so i don't mind if they look ghetto. that's actually the point for my purpose- perform like stock or better and look like ass.

so i put the black tape on and am anxiously awaiting putting the lo-beams in.

here's where i'm at:



they will not be sealed unless i can figure some way to enclose the projector from the back. that's the big question. i've thought of using abs plumbing pipe, abs gardening pipe, and making a box from scratch with scrap plastics. i don't know what i'll do. there's not a lot of room to work with since there's not a lot of room behind the driver's side light.

the reason i am not trying to make these as awesome as brcewane has is because i have real JDM's. i'm just doing this so my beam pattern will be proper USDM LHD and my **** won't get ****ed with. without the real jdm's, my car doesn't look impressive. it looks stock with holes in the trunk

anyway, i bought all of these things used so the materials have been under 100 dollars. they won't win any beauty contests and they won't fool anyone, but at least they're not koji-modded and at least they light up the road well.
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Old 09-01-2008, 11:16 PM   #2
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i was thinkin this needed its own thread, i dono if i can resist pickin up a set of these and seeing what happens
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Old 09-01-2008, 11:18 PM   #3
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yeah i hate to have lots of different threads for what's essentially the same kind of project... but my crap is waaaay too ugly to be in bruce's thread.
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Old 09-02-2008, 12:24 AM   #4
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just wondering whats the point of owning a set of jdm lights if you dont use them
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Old 09-02-2008, 01:59 AM   #5
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i'll use the jdm lights, i just want to have this set for on street parking and other situations.

that and i'll hang them from the ceiling and pleasure myself to them every night.


here they are with the lo beams somewhat ghetto-mounted:





i will need to figure out the mounting so they're secure and more aimable, as well as a backing, but for now they work when it's dry out and nothing goes wrong.

yes, that's tape on the grill inserts too

i don't know why, but these have a fuzzier cutoff and dimmer beam with brighter distance than the jdm h1's. i think part of it is the condition of the cover, and part of it is the fresnel projector lens.

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Old 09-02-2008, 04:48 AM   #6
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without the real jdm's, my car doesn't look impressive. it looks stock with holes in the trunk
dont forget about your awesome prodrive front lip

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Old 09-02-2008, 04:54 AM   #7
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i got all excited that you had replied. i'm open to all kinds of comments and criticism.
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Old 09-02-2008, 05:04 AM   #8
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i fixed my original post. hahaha

Although, i would love to try this if i knew where i was going with my car.I think you did a fantastic job. If those were flat black and you could figure out some sort of chrome-ing for the upper light they would look sellable lol. Make me a set
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Old 09-02-2008, 05:22 AM   #9
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ah yes. my prodrive lip is awesome.

and yeah, the paint can i used had a chrome cap, but as you can see it's just silver

if i were doing it again, and even for the stuff that i still have to do... i'd do what this guy does:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg_C_...eature=related
(ignore the annoying techno and just watch until 1:20 or so, or the whole thing...)

and make my own plastic to cover **** with. i'd use some foil to make a better reflector for the turn signal and mold that plastic stuff over it. i'm already thinking i might have to do something similar to seal up the back of the housing.

and the best part about this is that it's all redoable. i can go back in and muck with it whenever i want because i don't really care about these lights much.

i'm just using them until i have a garage and enough money to put the tsx projectors into the jdms and buy lenses and bulbs/ballasts for it.
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Old 09-02-2008, 09:11 AM   #10
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man that guy did an incredible job at those retrofits. neat.
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:09 AM   #11
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:14 PM   #12
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here's where they're at now:







you can see, they're not aimed right. gotta put more tabs in to keep them where i need them.
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:14 AM   #13
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Old 09-03-2008, 01:21 AM   #14
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lol, buy some prodrives
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In those black and white pics and from a distance they look pretty ballin'. if someone followed these steps but took the time to make it look good ie. making vinyl cutouts/painting instead of doing the trim in electrical tape I think you'd have a unique and pretty decent looking set of lights for the money.
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Old 09-03-2008, 02:30 AM   #16
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definitely.

i aimed them, added more tabs so i can get better level, and they're awesome now. i can see great with them.

i'm thinking of making the rear cover and the black front bezel guards from moldable acrylic, a' la post number nine's video.


if you haven't watched it...

WATCH AT 1:20!!
stuff is awesome.

this will of course require some (more) money. but as it stands i really got these together for maybe, i dunno, 150? buying all parts used.

i'm sure the people who junked their stock projectors and ebay lights and koji modded lights weren't anticipating this as what would come of their lights three years after storage.
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:01 AM   #17
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awesome!
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:52 AM   #18
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wow, that is some really good stuff
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Old 09-03-2008, 04:09 AM   #19
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these are spare grill inserts i painted with cans too so i'll try to cut those vents into them for real. the moldable acrylic should make a good bezel. the ebay ones are probably not big enough for these optics, otherwise i'd use that. but for now, i'm surprised how good the tape looks.

honestly i'm surprised more people don't do this.

the regular light retrofits, like lightwerkz, not only have to use bixenon(super expensive) but will never not look like the car just took a redeye flight and a few shots of coke.

i'm not pretending these lights are better than an expensive retrofit, or even better than an 06 wrx... but they are something i'm surprised more people haven't tried. i remember a few people using ebay lights and putting covers on them, but no one ever tried to make them like this, with real DOT/NHSTA optics.
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Will TSX projectors fit in the ebay knockoffs without much cutting? If not, is there any HID OEM projector that will fit?
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Will TSX projectors fit in the ebay knockoffs without much cutting? If not, is there any HID OEM projector that will fit?
well the short answer is no. all projectors will require cutting except very small ones, like the ones the newer ones come with and hella 50mm.

tsx, and all HID projectors, are larger than the housings and will not only require cutting, but also require extremely weatherproof seals all around the housing. there's no easy solution for this because what makes the lamp placement easy about this is that it doesn't use the stock housing. you have to fabricate your own rear housing, and as difficult as that is your HIDs will fail if it's not done properly.

or not, i dunno. but i'm not going to spend 300 dollars just to have it all fail in the first rain i drive in.

halogen rocks. i have driven in hid cars and it's great but it's totally not necessary. halogen lights are fine for most people and HID is one of those "if i have the extra money" things. honestly i'm too broke to be spending my time doing this project in the first place. but i'd steer anyone away from HID unless they have a very good plan on sealing the back of the housing once the projector is bolted on.
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Hey good job man. I think I might pick them up and play around with them too.
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well the short answer is no. all projectors will require cutting except very small ones, like the ones the newer ones come with and hella 50mm.

tsx, and all HID projectors, are larger than the housings and will not only require cutting, but also require extremely weatherproof seals all around the housing. there's no easy solution for this because what makes the lamp placement easy about this is that it doesn't use the stock housing. you have to fabricate your own rear housing, and as difficult as that is your HIDs will fail if it's not done properly.

or not, i dunno. but i'm not going to spend 300 dollars just to have it all fail in the first rain i drive in.

halogen rocks. i have driven in hid cars and it's great but it's totally not necessary. halogen lights are fine for most people and HID is one of those "if i have the extra money" things. honestly i'm too broke to be spending my time doing this project in the first place. but i'd steer anyone away from HID unless they have a very good plan on sealing the back of the housing once the projector is bolted on.
Ok, are the Hella 50mm any better/worse than the other 90mm ones? I think they are 90mm, can't remember.
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Those don't look toooo bad. Good idea!
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50mm are more expensive because they only come in hid. they're way too much money for something like that. 90mm are better.

in terms of light output, bigger is almost always better.
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