*** Phatbotti Tuned 2003 STi: EJ207 TS20g TBE TMIC EBCS Five-0 1000cc E85 400whp ***

PhatBotti Tuning TKR · 01-11-2013, 01:23 AM

Event: E-Tuning
Location: CaL E Forn IA
Ambient Temp: 80
Elevation: 0
Weather: sunny
Car: 2003 ej207 STi
Tuner: Phatron of PhatBotti Tuning
Tuned With: OS
Dyno Info: VD
Transmission: 6spd
Gear: 3rd
Peak HP at RPM: 400
Peak Torque at RPM: 370
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: 215/215
Target Boost: 22 psi tapering to 18psi
Target AFR: 11.5
Fuel: e85

Engine/Power Modifications:
TBE
AEM Intake
TS20g
Five-0 1000cc
EBCS
TMIC

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Zee Biker · 01-11-2013, 08:01 AM

Who's 20g is this car running?

scoobystas · 01-12-2013, 09:20 AM

300lbs of torque above 7k...nice!

twin scroll 20g?

207STi · 01-12-2013, 05:43 PM

Any reason it doesn't go all the way out to 8k?

Phatron · 01-12-2013, 06:29 PM

traffic

207STi · 01-12-2013, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phatron

traffic

Fair enough.

K1WRC · 01-12-2013, 11:22 PM

I'm sure its fun after 5k rpm, but I don't know if I could handle that much increase in boost onset over the factory twinscroll turbo. Though the size of a 20g isn't big and it's cheap compared to blouch's stock location ts option, it just seems like the 20g's old turbo technology is holding overall performance back.

Phatron · 01-12-2013, 11:28 PM

when you start getting into bigger turbos, especially on 2L's, you just have to learn to drive/cruise at higher rpm than before, especially if you're out trying to street race people.

on my dom4xtr and gtx35 i wouldnt drive below 3500rpm if i was looking for action lol.

K1WRC · 01-12-2013, 11:36 PM

This is true, I'm just spoiled with the midrange torque right now...

Zee Biker · 01-13-2013, 12:11 AM

I'm going to guess this chart was loaded as a 3rd gear into VD, but why not log it in 4th? Not enough room?

Phatron · 01-13-2013, 12:14 AM

you dont have to guess its on the bottom right of the graph, yes it was 3rd gear.

I pretty much leave it up to the person if they want to do those pulls or not. Most people opt to not do them.

murrdogg24 · 01-13-2013, 01:14 AM

is this my dyno plot?? jaja

punchjamesarnol · 01-13-2013, 01:16 AM

Murr, what up YO?

4th gear WOT in public roads is scarry... The backroads is a different story

I can't afford another ticket...

punchjamesarnol · 01-13-2013, 01:21 AM

Is that the most boost that can be had out of that TS turbo Ron?
I forget that the stock block is open deck and cant take high boost...

murrdogg24 · 01-13-2013, 01:23 AM

ej207 is semi-closed deck

murrdogg24 · 01-13-2013, 01:30 AM

well it was fun while it lasted but i'm back to 91 octane and the stock vf-37

punchjamesarnol · 01-13-2013, 01:31 AM

got it Murr... If that is you car (it looks like it with the mod list) do you have any plans on building it up more?

murrdogg24 · 01-13-2013, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punchjamesarnol

got it Murr... If that is you car (it looks like it with the mod list) do you have any plans on building it up more?

it's gotta be, it has all my exact mods. my next mod is going to be aluminum radiator and new hoses haha, then i need to get retuned for the grimmspeed 3port ebcs.

Phatron · 01-13-2013, 01:41 AM

yes it is. i was just looking for something different to post up besides all the regular stuff. i havent started a thread on here in a long time. It gets too repetitive having the same conversations all the time. Its much easier to just post pics on facebook.

james, as far as the boost goes i limit stock MAP sensor cars to 21.5-22psi since the stock sensor can only read to ~23.5. So that leaves 1-2 psi of overboost leeway while still keeping the fuel cut active. if you target 23.25 and set the fuel cut at 23.5 its gonna be going off constantly, so you basically have to disable it if you run more than 22psi on a stock MAP sensor car. The older sensors dont read up to 27-28psi like your stock one.

punchjamesarnol · 01-13-2013, 12:35 PM

Nice Ron, I'm always learning something new from you.

Right on Murr, What are your plans with the TS20G?

nightcrawler60 · 01-31-2013, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punchjamesarnol

Murr, what up YO?

4th gear WOT in public roads is scarry... The backroads is a different story

I can't afford another ticket...

905 freeway area...you can do pulls all day and night.

01-11-2013, 01:23 AM	#1
PhatBotti Tuning TKR NASIOC Vendor Member#: 239659 Join Date: Feb 2010 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Tri-State / California Vehicle: STI Mikey & Phatron Tuning Da Subies	* Phatbotti Tuned 2003 STi: EJ207 TS20g TBE TMIC EBCS Five-0 1000cc E85 400whp * Event: E-Tuning Location: CaL E Forn IA Ambient Temp: 80 Elevation: 0 Weather: sunny Car: 2003 ej207 STi Tuner: Phatron of PhatBotti Tuning Tuned With: OS Dyno Info: VD Transmission: 6spd Gear: 3rd Peak HP at RPM: 400 Peak Torque at RPM: 370 Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: 215/215 Target Boost: 22 psi tapering to 18psi Target AFR: 11.5 Fuel: e85 Engine/Power Modifications: TBE AEM Intake TS20g Five-0 1000cc EBCS TMIC * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

01-13-2013, 12:14 AM	#11
Phatron Scooby Guru Member#: 36033 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Tuning Lab Vehicle: CEO PhatBottiTuning 2006 STi GTX3582 + Meth	you dont have to guess its on the bottom right of the graph, yes it was 3rd gear. I pretty much leave it up to the person if they want to do those pulls or not. Most people opt to not do them. Last edited by Phatron; 01-13-2013 at 12:20 AM.

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01-11-2013, 08:01 AM	#2
Zee Biker Scooby Specialist Member#: 166005 Join Date: Dec 2007 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Northern 'Burbs Vehicle: 2005 Saab 92x Beaten Silver	Who's 20g is this car running?

01-12-2013, 09:20 AM	#3
scoobystas Scooby Specialist Member#: 26568 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Brighton, Mass Vehicle: 2003 Yellow Bugeye Version 8-Vf37	300lbs of torque above 7k...nice! twin scroll 20g?

01-12-2013, 05:43 PM	#4
207STi NASIOC Supporter Member#: 197062 Join Date: Dec 2008 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Vermont Vehicle: 1998 Swapped Impreza black	Any reason it doesn't go all the way out to 8k?

01-12-2013, 06:29 PM	#5
Phatron Scooby Guru Member#: 36033 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Tuning Lab Vehicle: CEO PhatBottiTuning 2006 STi GTX3582 + Meth	traffic

01-12-2013, 11:22 PM	#7
K1WRC Scooby Newbie Member#: 64511 Join Date: Jun 2004 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Diego Vehicle: 2003 WRX sedan WRB VF36 EJ207	I'm sure its fun after 5k rpm, but I don't know if I could handle that much increase in boost onset over the factory twinscroll turbo. Though the size of a 20g isn't big and it's cheap compared to blouch's stock location ts option, it just seems like the 20g's old turbo technology is holding overall performance back.

01-12-2013, 11:28 PM	#8
Phatron Scooby Guru Member#: 36033 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Tuning Lab Vehicle: CEO PhatBottiTuning 2006 STi GTX3582 + Meth	when you start getting into bigger turbos, especially on 2L's, you just have to learn to drive/cruise at higher rpm than before, especially if you're out trying to street race people. on my dom4xtr and gtx35 i wouldnt drive below 3500rpm if i was looking for action lol.

01-12-2013, 11:36 PM	#9
K1WRC Scooby Newbie Member#: 64511 Join Date: Jun 2004 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Diego Vehicle: 2003 WRX sedan WRB VF36 EJ207	This is true, I'm just spoiled with the midrange torque right now...

01-13-2013, 12:11 AM	#10
Zee Biker Scooby Specialist Member#: 166005 Join Date: Dec 2007 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Northern 'Burbs Vehicle: 2005 Saab 92x Beaten Silver	I'm going to guess this chart was loaded as a 3rd gear into VD, but why not log it in 4th? Not enough room?

01-13-2013, 01:14 AM	#12
murrdogg24 Scooby Specialist Member#: 50586 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Diego Vehicle: 2004 凸(ಠ_ಠ)	is this my dyno plot?? jaja

01-13-2013, 01:16 AM	#13
punchjamesarnol Scooby Newbie Member#: 284835 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: S.D. Vehicle: 2010 450+whp DGM STI DOM2.5/e85/Phatron tuned	Murr, what up YO? 4th gear WOT in public roads is scarry... The backroads is a different story I can't afford another ticket...

01-13-2013, 01:21 AM	#14
punchjamesarnol Scooby Newbie Member#: 284835 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: S.D. Vehicle: 2010 450+whp DGM STI DOM2.5/e85/Phatron tuned	Is that the most boost that can be had out of that TS turbo Ron? I forget that the stock block is open deck and cant take high boost...

01-13-2013, 01:23 AM	#15
murrdogg24 Scooby Specialist Member#: 50586 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Diego Vehicle: 2004 凸(ಠ_ಠ)	ej207 is semi-closed deck

01-13-2013, 01:30 AM	#16
murrdogg24 Scooby Specialist Member#: 50586 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Diego Vehicle: 2004 凸(ಠ_ಠ)	well it was fun while it lasted but i'm back to 91 octane and the stock vf-37

01-13-2013, 01:31 AM	#17
punchjamesarnol Scooby Newbie Member#: 284835 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: S.D. Vehicle: 2010 450+whp DGM STI DOM2.5/e85/Phatron tuned	got it Murr... If that is you car (it looks like it with the mod list) do you have any plans on building it up more?

01-13-2013, 01:41 AM	#19
Phatron Scooby Guru Member#: 36033 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Tuning Lab Vehicle: CEO PhatBottiTuning 2006 STi GTX3582 + Meth	yes it is. i was just looking for something different to post up besides all the regular stuff. i havent started a thread on here in a long time. It gets too repetitive having the same conversations all the time. Its much easier to just post pics on facebook. james, as far as the boost goes i limit stock MAP sensor cars to 21.5-22psi since the stock sensor can only read to ~23.5. So that leaves 1-2 psi of overboost leeway while still keeping the fuel cut active. if you target 23.25 and set the fuel cut at 23.5 its gonna be going off constantly, so you basically have to disable it if you run more than 22psi on a stock MAP sensor car. The older sensors dont read up to 27-28psi like your stock one.

01-13-2013, 12:35 PM	#20
punchjamesarnol Scooby Newbie Member#: 284835 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: S.D. Vehicle: 2010 450+whp DGM STI DOM2.5/e85/Phatron tuned	Nice Ron, I'm always learning something new from you. Right on Murr, What are your plans with the TS20G?