Bugeye 17x9 et42 Handling?

ToddMcF2002 · 10-04-2012, 10:22 PM

I'm thinking of 17x9 either Rota DPT or Mach V Awesome. I'm leaning towards the latter for brake cooling. I want an opinion on how its going to handle compared to a 17x8 before pulling the trigger. Also need tire suggestions please. I'm willing to roll but not pull and I do NOT plan to slam the car (at least an inch of gap expected).

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Primary use - HPDE

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yazel · 10-04-2012, 11:52 PM

Sending you a PM on my opinion of the 17x9 Rota DPT et42

mowgli29 · 10-05-2012, 12:01 AM

I run DPTs in that size. Tires are 255/40-17. I've done some very minor rolling in the rear. I've got about the same size fender gap and my spring rates are 400/400. I also run ~8mm spacers up front.

During normal daily and spirited driving I have NO issues. Once in a while (very seldom), I'll find a BIG bump or pothole that compresses one of the rears enough to scrape a little strip of rubber off the tire.

IMO, definitely get the 17x9. You'll have no issues if you run a 245/40 and/or actually roll your rear fenders all the way.

EDIT: I can't give a direct comparison in handling to a 17x8, but just remember: any time you increase track (width), you effectively increase roll stiffness. You might have to put up with a bit more bump steer, but that's a worthwhile trade, IMO!

EDIT 2: For tires, assuming you want streetable ones (not slicks), I think the Potenza RE-11, Ventus R-S3, Ecsta XS, and Direzza Z1 Star Spec are still the best summer tires around. Star Specs seem to be dominating my local autocross, and are almost as good as RE-11 for WAY LESS MONEY. I've owned the Star Specs and the Ventus R-S3; both are great tires, but I think the Star Specs had a slightly more solid feel (less squirmy).

Uncle Scotty · 10-05-2012, 12:29 AM

the 17x9 +42 is likely the best size with a 245/40

a 255/40 may be problematic

the 595rs-r in 235/40 may be a good way to go if ya want to drop the gearing a lil

ToddMcF2002 · 10-05-2012, 07:40 AM

Thanks for the feedback guys. I think I'll start off with the 245's then. I know the Mach V's clear Brembo without a spacer. Not sure about DPT?

Craig4g63 · 10-05-2012, 12:53 PM

I went from a 17x8 rota with a 235/40 RS2 to the 17x9 Mach V with a 245/40 AD-08. Feel and over all grip was noticeably improved. Turn in was quicker, the ride was better, the tire is quieter, and noticeable less tramlining.
I did have to roll the rear, they would rub on large bumps.

ToddMcF2002 · 10-05-2012, 01:45 PM

OK...... Ordered the Mach V Awesomes. Now I need the 245s. Primary use is HPDE so who has the grippiest? Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Specs? Hankook Ventura RS2? Others?

piripi · 10-06-2012, 11:19 AM

Direzzas and RS3 would be my 2 preferred choices. Kumho XS its a good tire if you can find a good deal. Falkens have fallen behind. Yoko I don't think price difference its worth it. RE11 are great but dunlops and rs3 are way cheaper offering same grip.

Uncle Scotty · 10-06-2012, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig4g63

I went from a 17x8 rota with a 235/40 RS2 to the 17x9 Mach V with a 245/40 AD-08. Feel and over all grip was noticeably improved. Turn in was quicker, the ride was better, the tire is quieter, and noticeable less tramlining.
I did have to roll the rear, they would rub on large bumps.

i didnt think the rs2 tires were very good

ToddMcF2002 · 10-06-2012, 09:06 PM

Ok Star Specs in the lead. Anyone else?

JDwhiteWRX · 10-06-2012, 09:32 PM

I run the same wheels with 245/40 R17 RS3's and have found them to be a great tyre, I haven't tried the star specs though.

mowgli29 · 10-06-2012, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToddMcF2002

Ok Star Specs in the lead. Anyone else?

Do it. You won't find a better tire for the money.

10-04-2012, 10:22 PM	#1
ToddMcF2002 Scooby Newbie Member#: 135007 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2002 Wrx Sedan Aspen White	Bugeye 17x9 et42 Handling? I'm thinking of 17x9 either Rota DPT or Mach V Awesome. I'm leaning towards the latter for brake cooling. I want an opinion on how its going to handle compared to a 17x8 before pulling the trigger. Also need tire suggestions please. I'm willing to roll but not pull and I do NOT plan to slam the car (at least an inch of gap expected). Other supporting mods: QRack 11.5:1 Tarmac 2 Coilovers (500F/400R) Ground Control Front Camber plates, Cusco rear camber plates Whiteline F/R 24mm adjustable Brembo's F/R with DBA 4000 rotors, stainless lines Primary use - HPDE Thanks! * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

10-04-2012, 11:52 PM	#2
yazel Scooby Specialist Member#: 215344 Join Date: Jun 2009 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Indy/SE Indiana Vehicle: 2004 STi STU/DD Prepped by TiC	Sending you a PM on my opinion of the 17x9 Rota DPT et42 Last edited by yazel; 10-05-2012 at 10:21 AM.

10-05-2012, 12:01 AM	#3
mowgli29 NASIOC Supporter Member#: 203438 Join Date: Feb 2009 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: St. Louis, MO Vehicle: 2002 WRX PSM	I run DPTs in that size. Tires are 255/40-17. I've done some very minor rolling in the rear. I've got about the same size fender gap and my spring rates are 400/400. I also run ~8mm spacers up front. During normal daily and spirited driving I have NO issues. Once in a while (very seldom), I'll find a BIG bump or pothole that compresses one of the rears enough to scrape a little strip of rubber off the tire. IMO, definitely get the 17x9. You'll have no issues if you run a 245/40 and/or actually roll your rear fenders all the way. EDIT: I can't give a direct comparison in handling to a 17x8, but just remember: any time you increase track (width), you effectively increase roll stiffness. You might have to put up with a bit more bump steer, but that's a worthwhile trade, IMO! EDIT 2: For tires, assuming you want streetable ones (not slicks), I think the Potenza RE-11, Ventus R-S3, Ecsta XS, and Direzza Z1 Star Spec are still the best summer tires around. Star Specs seem to be dominating my local autocross, and are almost as good as RE-11 for WAY LESS MONEY. I've owned the Star Specs and the Ventus R-S3; both are great tires, but I think the Star Specs had a slightly more solid feel (less squirmy). Last edited by mowgli29; 10-05-2012 at 12:22 AM.

10-05-2012, 12:29 AM	#4
Uncle Scotty NASIOC Supporter Member#: 16200 Join Date: Mar 2002 Vehicle: OK Houston we have an Uncle	the 17x9 +42 is likely the best size with a 245/40 a 255/40 may be problematic the 595rs-r in 235/40 may be a good way to go if ya want to drop the gearing a lil Last edited by Uncle Scotty; 10-05-2012 at 12:37 AM.

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10-05-2012, 07:40 AM	#5
ToddMcF2002 Scooby Newbie Member#: 135007 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2002 Wrx Sedan Aspen White	Thanks for the feedback guys. I think I'll start off with the 245's then. I know the Mach V's clear Brembo without a spacer. Not sure about DPT?

10-05-2012, 12:53 PM	#6
Craig4g63 Scooby Newbie Member#: 217175 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Vehicle: 2003 WRX WRB	I went from a 17x8 rota with a 235/40 RS2 to the 17x9 Mach V with a 245/40 AD-08. Feel and over all grip was noticeably improved. Turn in was quicker, the ride was better, the tire is quieter, and noticeable less tramlining. I did have to roll the rear, they would rub on large bumps.

10-05-2012, 01:45 PM	#7
ToddMcF2002 Scooby Newbie Member#: 135007 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2002 Wrx Sedan Aspen White	OK...... Ordered the Mach V Awesomes. Now I need the 245s. Primary use is HPDE so who has the grippiest? Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Specs? Hankook Ventura RS2? Others?

10-06-2012, 11:19 AM	#8
piripi Scooby Newbie Member#: 178410 Join Date: Apr 2008 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Downtown LA Vehicle: 2006 WRX Wagon CGM	Direzzas and RS3 would be my 2 preferred choices. Kumho XS its a good tire if you can find a good deal. Falkens have fallen behind. Yoko I don't think price difference its worth it. RE11 are great but dunlops and rs3 are way cheaper offering same grip.

10-06-2012, 09:06 PM	#10
ToddMcF2002 Scooby Newbie Member#: 135007 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2002 Wrx Sedan Aspen White	Ok Star Specs in the lead. Anyone else?

10-06-2012, 09:32 PM	#11
JDwhiteWRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 190502 Join Date: Sep 2008 Chapter/Region: International Location: Sydney, Australia Vehicle: 2005 VF36 WRX	I run the same wheels with 245/40 R17 RS3's and have found them to be a great tyre, I haven't tried the star specs though.