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Old 10-10-2012, 01:18 PM   #126
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Old 10-10-2012, 01:22 PM   #127
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What didn't work? The brake override or heal toe?
yeah i wonder too, if you're not properly heel-toeing or rev-matching your downshifts, you are totally missing out on some higher points of MT driving
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Old 10-10-2012, 01:25 PM   #128
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yeah i wonder too, if you're not properly heel-toeing or rev-matching your downshifts, you are totally missing out on some higher points of MT driving
i double clutch most downshifts but i have never been able to figure out heal-toe. the pedals in our jetta are too close for my big feet and the impreza is supposed to be disabled anyway.

i might try it today when i go driving.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:15 PM   #129
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i double clutch most downshifts but i have never been able to figure out heal-toe. the pedals in our jetta are too close for my big feet and the impreza is supposed to be disabled anyway.

i might try it today when i go driving.
It's got nothing really to do with your heel, it's more like you're slowly braking with the left side of your foot, then blipping the accelerator with the right side of your braking foot, to match revs and downshift. Basically braking while you downshift. It's rad for entering corners, and you'll get that aha moment when you are practicing this as you approach a red stoplight, as it turns green when you reach 2nd gear and you can just gas it cause you're already in gear.

Also handy for saving your brake pads by using engine braking. Good for offramps, downhill turns, etc. It's great.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:15 PM   #130
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Why do you double-clutch your downshifts?
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:20 PM   #131
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Why do you double-clutch your downshifts?

easier for me to rev match that way.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:22 PM   #132
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easier for me to rev match that way.
I might have to try this too. Hmm

I find the boxer is great for those blips, since you get it up around 3,500 and it just hangs there for a moment. Pretty forgiving that way
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:22 PM   #133
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I think I might drive my car to work tomorrow. It's been a couple weeks since I even took it out of the garage. Maybe a month now?
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:27 PM   #134
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Anyone change out their stock shift knobs? Post pics!
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:29 PM   #135
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Expect you can't press gas and brake at same time because of the brake override

You *can* do a brake-stand for at least a second or so, for a quicker launch in a CVT.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:31 PM   #136
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I'm not sure if I can simulate a heel-toe type smooth downshift with the CVT - it would be interesting for someone with heel-toe experience (which I do not have) to try out.

The throttle gets a little blip during a downshift, but there's also a jolt of slow-down. So there's no double-clutching type behaviour available.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:42 PM   #137
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Anyone change out their stock shift knobs? Post pics!
I just ordered one of these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280805114119...84.m1497.l2649

4.5 ounces. The red version is cheaper, but I don't like red.

I'll let you know what I think after install.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:52 PM   #138
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On one of my favorite dirt roads I didn't feel the cvt loaner car did as well as my mt. A couple times I swear I could feel the car losing grip and then the rear would grab, but it didn't have the same predictability that the mt has. Ymmv
The stab control will interfere long before you get the rear much out of line. I get mine jumping on during hard cornering on *dry* pavement from road bumps. You can't have sideways fun in this car...
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:00 PM   #139
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Shifting points are going to differ with drivers, but usually, you want to shift once the torque has peaked to fully harness the acceleration potential.
Actually, you usually want to shift after the HP peak, because the lower gearing multiplies torque in the lower gears. You can see this in a graph of wheel-torque vs road speed. I don't have torque, but here's HP from my bike:



You want to shift where the lines cross. BTW, those rpms are the same using either T or HP.
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:03 PM   #140
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Its also been documented and stated in many places that 4800 is the peak of the hp/ tq curve

This is what I got measuring my car and calculating 'road horsepower':




My car absolutely pulls hard past 6000 rpm.
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:21 PM   #141
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Yes. I got a lathewerks stainless sphere and then i leather covered it. weighs in at 1.2lbs

I redid this and it is tighter and better fitting now it feels great and is exactly what i wanted

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Old 10-10-2012, 08:26 PM   #142
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I might have to try this too. Hmm

I find the boxer is great for those blips, since you get it up around 3,500 and it just hangs there for a moment. Pretty forgiving that way
I tried to heal toe today, i am not good at it, bit it does seem possible. Just another thing that is incorrect in the manual i guess
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:28 PM   #143
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The stab control will interfere long before you get the rear much out of line. I get mine jumping on during hard cornering on *dry* pavement from road bumps. You can't have sideways fun in this car...
what does the button turn off? something else?
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:28 PM   #144
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what does the button turn off? something else?
Traction control
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:43 PM   #145
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This is what I got measuring my car and calculating 'road horsepower':




My car absolutely pulls hard past 6000 rpm.
What did you use to get that?
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:48 PM   #146
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Where is the 90/10 split documented? I've seen it on Cars101. Anytime the split is brought up someone with a CVT states they heard Subaru of Canada claims 60/40.
http://www.awdwiki.com/en/subaru/

I dont see our specific model. Given that the point was the squeeze as much MPG out of the vehicle it wouldnt surprise me that 90/10 is used. Since its an electronic controlled clutch it can be set to what ever they desire from the factory

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Old 10-10-2012, 10:11 PM   #147
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Anyone change out their stock shift knobs? Post pics!
Yup, I replaced my plastic knob with an OEM Subaru leather knob (for a WRX, I think), with the proper 5-speed shift pattern shown on top.

In addition, I wrapped my steering wheel with a Wheelskins leather cover. I did this not only because I like the feel of leather, but mainly because I couldn't stand the feel of the groove that Subaru molded into the plastic steering wheel. Whatever idiot decided to add that groove as a way of stylizing the wheel should be shot.

Here's the thread with pics of both the shift knob and steering wheel:

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Old 10-10-2012, 11:02 PM   #148
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I thought it wasn't workin for awhile too, but then I tried holding the button for a SUPER long time, then the way it describes in the book works fine. It was like 20 seconds or so. Use the force
What the heck am I doing wrong? start the car, hold the button down for like 25 seconds and it just turns off. I let off the button and I hit the button again within 2 seconds and absolutely nothing happens. no light goes back on or anything. I cant even get the traction light to go back on. What part am I missing?
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:45 PM   #149
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http://www.awdwiki.com/en/subaru/

I dont see our specific model. Given that the point was the squeeze as much MPG out of the vehicle it wouldnt surprise me that 90/10 is used. Since its an electronic controlled clutch it can be set to what ever they desire from the factory

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80/20
60/40

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This states that the CVT does have a 60/40 split. I guess when Subaru Canada posted that information on their website it wasn't just lies from the marketing department.
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:49 AM   #150
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This states that the CVT does have a 60/40 split. I guess when Subaru Canada posted that information on their website it wasn't just lies from the marketing department.
Wiki is not a reliable source of information. Why? Because it is a collection of information submitted by whomever wants to submit it, and corrected by whomever wants to correct it.

Generally Wiki works well, but if the material is not linked to a reliable source it is not reliable.

For all you know, Subaru of Canada marketing department quoted 60/40, and someone added it in the wiki document.

So show me the test data!
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