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Old 07-15-2013, 12:54 AM   #226
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Damn I need to get you to do my manifold. Soooo perrrty.
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Old 07-16-2013, 02:52 AM   #227
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Here are some more pictures of Jay's parts. They turned out really well. This color is unreal; its hard to catch the flake in the photos, but when the light hits this color, it lights up.

Jay setting up equipment:








You can see the holographic flake in this photo (orange/yellow flakes):






And this shot was cool. With the flash, the parts light up.:
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:03 AM   #228
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Very nice guys. Looking great
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:12 AM   #229
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Very nice guys. Looking great
We are very nice, thanks for letting others know
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:13 AM   #230
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Smart ass. Forgot the comma. Sue me.
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:45 AM   #231
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Very nice guys. Looking great
Thanks. Jay definitely has a knack for this. I'm very curious to see what we can do with more learning. We're practicing on anything we can get our hands on at the moment. This past weekend, we spent about 20 hours total, each, working/practicing/learning.

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Old 07-16-2013, 03:54 AM   #232
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but when the light hits this color, it lights up.
Too bad the valve covers won't get much light hitting them once they're on the motor in the car
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:58 AM   #233
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Yeah, but the manifold will, so that's nice.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:01 AM   #234
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Yeah, it's a sweet color. You guys made sure to pack the valve covers with media, right? That's what the real pros do.
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:03 AM   #235
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Yeah, it's a sweet color. You guys made sure to pack the valve covers with media, right? That's what the real pros do.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:30 AM   #236
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A little progress (and more stuff powder coated)



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Old 07-21-2013, 07:50 PM   #237
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:27 PM   #238
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very purdy considering it's a monster you're making
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:07 AM   #239
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Um, I realize you both probably know a lot more about powder coating at this point than I do, -but- you did make sure to use a high temp powder coat on that turbo, riiight?

Because if you didn't, the only kind of monster that thing will end up being is a raging inferno on the side of the highway.

It is hard to ignite powder coating, but once it is started you can't stop it. Aaaaand considering that pretty much everything else in that engine compartment is also powdercoated, well lets just say that the fire department is going to have more than a few words for you, not to mention a pretty sizable bill for the rescue and cleanup job.
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:17 AM   #240
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Um, I realize you both probably know a lot more about powder coating at this point than I do, -but- you did make sure to use a high temp powder coat on that turbo, riiight?

Because if you didn't, the only kind of monster that thing will end up being is a raging inferno on the side of the highway.

It is hard to ignite powder coating, but once it is started you can't stop it. Aaaaand considering that pretty much everything else in that engine compartment is also powdercoated, well lets just say that the fire department is going to have more than a few words for you, not to mention a pretty sizable bill for the rescue and cleanup job.
Do you have a source for this data?

APS and others have been coating their turbos for years with great success.

The facts are that standard, non-ceramic powder is cured at 350-425 degrees without issue. Sometimes, depending on the substrate type and material, a coater will "burn off" the old powder coat (to strip the part) before recoating it. I do not like this method and think chemical removal is FAR safer for the part. Either way, the burn off temperatures start at 600 degrees. Some must go to 750 to remove the coating depending on the type of powder coat being removed! If you are experiencing 600 degrees at your compressor housing I think there are other things to be worried about, like the rubber lines attached to it falling off/degrading.

Remember, your compressor housing is constantly being air cooled by the air being brought through it. I'd be shocked if it is ever higher than 400 degrees, and that would be very shortly. However, if you can bring source data in place of speculation, I'd be happy to check it out. It would be great to learn something new. If you have any questions on powder coating, we'd love to answer them as we can.

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Old 07-22-2013, 02:59 AM   #241
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I think I still have a roll of magnesium ribbon somewhere, we could test it out. I highly doubt that's true though.
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:13 PM   #242
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Hah, ok, I was reading the thread last night on my phone and could not tell that was the intake side of the turbo, I could only make out the "snail" shape and I assumed ( I know ) that the whole turbo was coated.

Either way, It has been over 20 years since I did any powder coating. IIRC most plastic powder coats have an ignition temp around 1000f. And IIRC from my days at the track, the exhaust side of most turbos will see around 1000f (and more).

We used to have to special order powder for high temp use, but I think it was still only good to about 1200f. Any higher than that and we would have to use ceramics. There are ceramic grades available all the way up to 2000f IIRC.

As for a source, you should be able to talk to your vendor or look it up on the internet. I am just going by experience, I apologize for not having hard evidence.
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:44 PM   #243
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Ah, OK. Makes sense! We definitely wouldn't ever coat an exhaust housing with standard powder! That would be a problem. The ceramics are much better suited for that purpose and other exhaust areas. We have not experimented with those types of powders but I think our oven is capable. We'll have to look more into it in the future. Thanks for the input.
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:33 PM   #244
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I really just wanta see this thing done already...hurry up
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:12 PM   #245
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I really just wanta see this thing done already...hurry up
I would like to see it done also

Motor should be ready to go back in the car in the next few days, but most likely will not go in untill i get back from out family vacation. But then it need to go get the exhaust made, and then will need to be tuned, decide on suspension, get a alignment and then burn it to the ground or something like that
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Old 08-18-2013, 04:17 PM   #246
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Wed/Thursday i got my Power Steering lines from "Flat 4 motorsport" Phil is a very nice guy and the lines are very nice and complete, Definitely the nicest PS line kit out there from what i have seen



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Old 08-18-2013, 04:26 PM   #247
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Friday night, Erik and I put the motor in the car, and fitted some other things, well test fit to find out they didn't work, But either way the car should be up and running this week, then it will be going to get the exhaust fabbed/reworked, then it will be time to tune and sell



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Old 08-18-2013, 04:29 PM   #248
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Today i picked up some KW V3s with rear linear spring conversion that were freshly rebuilt by Feal Motorsport.

So these will be going on the car soon also

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Old 08-18-2013, 07:27 PM   #249
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I want those rear coilovers.
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Old 08-18-2013, 07:29 PM   #250
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Tune and sell.. wouldn't be your car if it wasn't for sale.. haha
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