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Old 01-28-2013, 10:19 AM   #26
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Thanks for the write-up, I followed your instructions, and had a few issues I thought I would share.

First, I found it really difficult to get the wiring neat while keeping the bumper on. I initially installed without removing the bumper like you (Using subimods harness). I also had a tough time getting the bracket mounted, I'm a stocky guy, so my large short arms might have had something to do with this. It's tough to get good access with a ratchet and even tougher to get everything tightened and aligned properly. With how easy it is to remove the bumper cover, I have to recommend taking it off for this reason. 5 minutes of work will likely save you 15 minutes of aggravation. And, it's much easier to mount the relay and tie off the wires neatly. I mounted the relay right on the mounting hole for the bracket, it's hidden behind the grill and blocked from water.

There's a great video here:
It show's how to take the bumper cover off, it only takes about 5 minutes, was very simple, and it saves a lot of hassle trying to get everything neat and correct. I had to do this after the fact because I was having a wiring issue.

I used the ground connection you suggested near the fusebox, while it was good placement and very neat, it didn't provide a good enough contact for the horns to work. I drove myself nuts trying to figure out the problem, thinking it was actually the relay or an issue with the harness. I'm still puzzled while it was even an issue, probably just a bit too much resistance in the ground. I moved it over to the battery terminal and they now work like a charm.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:29 AM   #27
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Yes, it does. The copper terminal is +.
You're right about the positive terminal having a copper pin, but the horns themselves will work if hooked up either way and are not polarity sensitive. Both the connectors are actually copper so you won't get a better connection one way or the other.

No need for anyone out there to go back and change it if you hooked them up backwards.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:21 PM   #28
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Anyone know where to buy black/white supertones?
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:30 PM   #29
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Anyone know where to buy black/white supertones?
See the first post.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:34 PM   #30
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See the first post.
Sorry, I only see the red/black ones. I don't see black/white anywhere.

EDIT: Jk, just found them.
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:00 PM   #31
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Soo noob question: What is this horn supposed to do? just louder?
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:10 PM   #32
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Soo noob question: What is this horn supposed to do? just louder?
Yup. Louder. Much louder.
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:29 PM   #33
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Soo noob question: What is this horn supposed to do? just louder?
And it blasts with two different tones, so bozos with the radio cranked up can still hear it.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:37 PM   #34
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Yup. Louder. Much louder.
Hella loud.
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Old 02-22-2013, 04:00 PM   #35
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Soo noob question: What is this horn supposed to do? just louder?
Someone decided to turn on their green instead of yielding to me who was going straight and 30mph... so I hit the horns right when they pointed straight onto his body - he dropped his cell phone when I hit the horn. I LOL'D. (this happened today) but I get to use the horns weekly for stuff like this and they work well.

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Old 02-22-2013, 06:15 PM   #36
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I myself get regular use from these horns. At least once a day, I honk at someone who is sitting there texting/stopped when the light turns from red to green. It's funny to first see their suprised face in their rear view mirror, then watch them proceed to do 70mph+ in a 55mph zone so they can get as far in front of me as possible
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:46 PM   #37
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Love my Hellas. As I recently posted to Twitter: "Hella Supertones: the horns that bring fellow drivers into a state of supreme consciousness."
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:02 PM   #38
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Thanks for the write up. Took me longer than i though (over 1 hr) but i got it done lol.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:17 PM   #39
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Installed on my '13 WRX Limited 5-Door:

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Old 03-21-2013, 08:43 AM   #40
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Installed on my '13 WRX Limited 5-Door:
What bracket did u use? Subimods?
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:40 AM   #41
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What bracket did u use? Subimods?
Yes, Subimods. Between that and this fine tutorial, install was pretty doggone easy.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:13 AM   #42
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So I bought my hellas and bracket from JNA, they did not mention anything about the harness. I am thinking that makes all the difference right there.

Looked on Subimods, appears that you can only buy it as an adder to the bracket. Anyone know where else you can get the harness itself?
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:31 AM   #43
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So I bought my hellas and bracket from JNA, they did not mention anything about the harness. I am thinking that makes all the difference right there.

Looked on Subimods, appears that you can only buy it as an adder to the bracket. Anyone know where else you can get the harness itself?
Here is a link to the harness: http://www.subimods.com/subimods-hel...rness-kit.html.
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Old 03-31-2013, 04:20 AM   #44
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Good wright up but there are somethings he did WRONG! One: you WANT to take off your bumper. SOOOOOO much faster and you can get the zip ties in perfect place to make sure that each connection is on tight. Two: the bracket is on backwards. You want to have the dip side on the passeger side of the car so you can open the hood with no interference. That is why they put it there. Three: DO NOT connect the negative to the car. It might work once but not again. Also it will be pulling the charge from your battery into the car itself thus killing your battery (and will not start the car). You want put the negative on the battery so it complets its cycle thus keeping the battery from dyeing.

Other then those three things he did a good job showing (pictures) what it should look like when you are ding it. Also always use locktight when putting bults back in your car. You will be thankful later then you have to take it off. Zip ties are a gift from the gods! lol

Special Thanks to www.subiemods.com for putting a great product on the market for easy installation and takes the guess work out of it. Colors come in White/Black/Red/Blue what could you ask more! Want it done the right way and safe way go to www.subiemods.com. Can not be happier with the customer service.
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Three: DO NOT connect the negative to the car. It might work once but not again. Also it will be pulling the charge from your battery into the car itself thus killing your battery (and will not start the car). You want put the negative on the battery so it complets its cycle thus keeping the battery from dyeing.
This is incorrect. You're only pulling charge from the battery when the horns are actually on, that's the only time the circuit is complete. I've had mine hooked up, negative to the car, for about 6 months now.

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Other then those three things he did a good job showing (pictures) what it should look like when you are ding it. Also always use locktight when putting bults back in your car. You will be thankful later then you have to take it off. Zip ties are a gift from the gods! lol
This is also incorrect. Why would you be glad you put loktite on bolts when you have to take them off? Loktite will make the bolts harder to get off, but will keep them from loosening up on their own. Did you mean to say anti-seize?

I agree that it's a lot easier to do with the bumper off, but some people are really nervous about taking the bumper off. If they want to install with the bumper on that's their choice. I agree it's not the best choice, but if you can do the install with the bumper on I wouldn't say it's the wrong way to do it.

And the part about the bracket being backwards (upside-down) has been covered. Apparently his hood opened just fine with the bracket that way.
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Yes bracket backwards - I updated tutorial but couldnt really change the picture out. My hood opens and closes fine with plenty of clearance with it backwards.

Calimanwrxdriver - you are wrong about the bumper it is NOT quicker to remove the bumper and it is 100% unneeded for this easy install. It is not as easy to remove the bumper as stated for people who havent done it before and I hear lots of stories about people having issues lining the bumper up again or breaking clips - its not worth the time/risk.
Calimanwrxdriver - Also wrong about the battery being connected - there is no power drain unless the horns are being used - I believe thats why there is a relay switch in the wire harness - without that people were having battery drain issues.
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:50 PM   #48
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I agreed, I used to have them in my impreza with no relay,
And now the WRX no relay either, works just fine, and By the way
No need to remove the bumper
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Dale2011WRX: Read what locktite does. It does both very well. They use it in building race engines all the time.
Dale2011WRX and MtnXfreerider: You can put the negative on the car but its not recommended for the application nor is it a reliable connection. The best negative on the car is the battery why would you put it anywhere else????
MtnXfreerider: Took me 4 mins to take off the bumper and 3 mins to put it back on with no problems at all. Whole install took me 20 mins and like you said the hardest part was taking off the nut on the back of the hellas. 10 mins of planning before the install goes a long way.
Not trying to dis your install, I think you did a good job but there are things I would of done different so you do not have problems down the road and it can work as built and intended for.
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Sorry I have to disagree. I hook up audios systems and the best grounds are the closest and shortest distant from the amp to the chassis. Never a good thing to run ground wires all the way from the amp all the way to the battery. The same goes with relay wire harness. http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pdf...on_Harness.pdf This as example. I know it has nothing to do with what the OP topic but you can see how short the ground wire(s) are compared to the P+ wire that needs to be connected at the battery P+ terminal.
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