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Old 10-07-2012, 02:01 AM   #1
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Default Buying WRX, couple questions.

Newbster here.

Buying a 2013 WRX Sedan, couple questions. Is there any other difference between the WRX base and the Premium other than the: Trunk spoiler (4-door), Fog lights, Power-tilt/sliding moonroof, All-Weather Package. That is listed on the website.

Also all weather just means heated seats, is that correct?

Also has anyone heard what this dinky Kicker amp sounds like? It looks like it wouldn't be great sound, for someone who cares about quality audio. Kicker I know is great, but does it do the job?

Also, i'm a newb to manual, learned on a 2008 Impreza 2.5i hatchback today, first time I've driven manual. Had what I guess is the normal "first gear" issues but all in all I have it down somewhat. Was wondering if the gear box has changed since then, or how much it would be different on a 2013 WRX compared to that car.


Thanks for hearing out a total newbie who knows diddley poo about this stuff, hope to hear back from some folks.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:20 AM   #2
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All weather package is basically heated windows (and I believe mirrors) and heated seats. Other than that, it's not that much more. It might also include the all weather floor mats.

I haven't heard the Kicker amp personally so I can't say.

My 2011 is my first manual car as well and boy, I know I've stalled this thing a lot when I started learning. I swear it was every other intersection that I stalled out at. It took a while to get a feel for where the engagement point was for the clutch. My clutch is also a lot harder than all the WRXes I have driven were. I always wonder if I have a defective or aftermarket clutch...

One thing to note is that second and third gears whine a lot when you let off the gas. My car also likes to jerk a bit when I do let off gas completely in second gear. Do not be too concerned if you hear/feel it. After test driving four WRXs (2 sedans and 2 hatches) from the '11+ revision, they've pretty much all behaved like that.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:52 AM   #3
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All weather also means windshield wiper defrosters.
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:20 AM   #4
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The wrx is a bit sloppy from first to second, just shift nice and slow til you get a feel for it. The extra power of the wrx should make it easier to drive then the 2.5i ( less throttle needed ), if you have trouble gettin into reverse on cold starts just give a little rev and as the revs are falling, move the shifter into reverse
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:43 AM   #5
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If you are an audio guy this may not be the best car. The stock head unit is pretty bad and there are alot of rattles from the trunk lid and door cards. I can't imagine the trunk rattles with a sub woofer.
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:25 PM   #6
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thanks guys, I appreciate it. I've heard the sound is not great in the WRX. However I can do something about that down the line. Also was wondering how nice the Navigation was that you can get (if I decided to get the premium or limited), after thinking about it, my plan was to install my own nav/sound system after I buy the car, because I figure 10 years down the line the Subaru one might be very outdated, and also for a 1000 bucks I just don't find it worth the add on price for it. But I could be wrong, the dealership by me doesn't have any WRX with the Nav in them, so let me know fellas! and thanks again.
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:38 PM   #7
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From what I've heard from other people that have the subi navigation, it doesn't sound like it is worth it to me. I have heard that it is less than steller. I have not personaly used it, just going off what I have been told. The trade off is you will get a more flush look but if you will be upgrading the audio system any way you will probably be getting a new head unit I'm guessing so you would have to pull out the nav system any way.

On another note, most things rarely stay current after 10 year in terms of technology.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:44 PM   #8
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Oh yeah most definitely, I know 10 years down the line anything I put in will be obsolete, but I just definitely figure there are going to be some higher end, nicer options I could get that would hold relevance longer than the Subaru one. If it was a cheaper option I'd consider it but I think I can make my money worth more going through a high end car audio shop, to get a nicer touch screen nav/audio deck. Thanks for the feed back, all I saw was through pictures, and it didn't impress.

Was wanting to add the fog light kit to mine, is it worth it to go through Subaru for that, or is there alternatives after market that are more of the same?

Also, any opinion of the leg area LED lighting? it's a cheap addition seems kind of nice but didn't know if it was too bright or anything like that.

Again thanks everyone for being patient with someone learning all this for the first time.
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:17 PM   #9
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The OEM fogs are pretty easy to add. I did that with my Legacy.

When i got my WRX, i had a choice between the base and premium all weather package.

Trust me, go ahead and get the premium. You get: sunroof, fogs, heated seats & mirrors IIRC.

If you want the HID's - go for the Limited.

*this was my experience when shopping for a 2012... The audio can be easily upgraded (check the audio forum for ideas).
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:01 PM   #10
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Yeah I've contemplated the Premium, but I live in Phoenix, so heated things are not necessary for me, it was 101 here still a couple days ago haha.

I've also heard mixed reviews about the seats, they look great but I've heard they are uncomfortable, being with the fixed head rest. Can it really be that bad?

Also, one car rating website dogged the Auto Climate Control, not sure how that could be a bad thing but you guys will know more than me.
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:13 PM   #11
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Yeah I've contemplated the Premium, but I live in Phoenix, so heated things are not necessary for me, it was 101 here still a couple days ago haha.

I've also heard mixed reviews about the seats, they look great but I've heard they are uncomfortable, being with the fixed head rest. Can it really be that bad?

Also, one car rating website dogged the Auto Climate Control, not sure how that could be a bad thing but you guys will know more than me.
i've never been a fan of analog climate control - so i think it sucks.

i've had my car for two months and used the climate control twice - both of those days it was over 90 here in Massachusetts. i cranked it up to max until the car got cold and then switched to CC to try and save the planet.


the seats are ok. i came from an 05 Magnum R/T ---> 2012 Legacy 2.5i Premium -----> 2012 WRX Premium so I was very used to my power seats with Lumbar support. -but, the WRX is a completly different animal.


if I had the patience, i would have ordered one, just like i have now but with Leather seats and maybe HID's. -just because i've never owned a car w/ HID's.

but, my area had only base sedans and the dealer i worked with had two STi Sedans, a Base Wagon and a Premium Wagon (which i got, of course)

what kind of car you driving now?
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:39 PM   #12
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I'm not coming from anything special. I had a Camry that just got totaled this last week. So now I gotta replace it and i'm gonna get something more performance based, which is why i'm looking at WRX.

Are there other seats you can order through Subaru when you customize the car, I know if I get the base i'm probably limited on what I can do, but I feel like if you are at the dealer and you want something they will find a way to get it for you. Even the seats in the STI with the leather are still the same style seat it looks like, with the fixed head rest. Just didn't know if they had other leather seats or just different or more "traditional" type of seats they offer that i'm not seeing on their web site.
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:40 PM   #13
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The rattles from the trunk are corrected enough with Dynamat and make sure your license plate frame has something behind it to keep it from shaking too much. Honestly my friends who have got their 2012 hardly even notice.

I miss my 07 that I sold but I liked my old legacy and chose to keep it instead of the newer WRX ... so I sold the WRX and got the lady an outback with the spare change which she loves... I miss the WRX for the the HP boost it had but that is about it, my legacy is way more my style these days.... don't let the 1st and second gear bother you but learn to rev match on the down shift. Also suggest you avoid jackrabbit starts / launching I never had trans gear problems when i drove mine for the 38k I had it for but missing a shift was a PITA.... take it easy and you will be fine...enjoy your wrx and make it yours
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:31 PM   #14
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yeah as far as audio goes, I would do it right and am not too worried about it. you can make any car not sound like a tin can for the most part.

as far as the shifting goes yeah, just gonna need to get some more practice in on that aspect, and it will come with time so i'm not too worried about it. I have looked at Legacy's and Accords, and they both have the sexier interior and stuff that what is in the WRX, but I definitely want the power right now haha. So it's kind of give and take.
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