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Old 10-08-2012, 09:44 PM   #26
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Statistically teens are the worst drivers. My first car was a 69 cutlass and it was fast as hell with a 350 in it. Rear wheel drive, horrible in the rain or snow. I had my fun, but my father showed me how to drive and would kill me if he heard me spinning the tires or doing anything reckless.

My father gave me great advice. He said don't make your mistakes permanent. Like drinking and driving or pregnancy (not really permanent) but he drilled it into my head. I blame the kid and the parents. Stupid and unlucky.

Heart goes out to those families.
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:09 PM   #27
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To all the people bitching about a young kid with an sti being somehow wrong, that obviously isn't true. it's just a ****ing car. a hunk of metal.

it doesn't magically posses people to drive recklessly. the driver made his choice on his own free will.

if you're going to drive irresponsibly, bad stuff will happen regardless of if its in a 92 Mitsubishi Mirage DE or a Ferrari 458 Italia.
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:06 AM   #28
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i was 18 when i got my wrx (OMFG I MUST BE SUCH AN AWFUL DRIVER). i had strict ass parents that made me feel like the worst piece of garbage after i hit my rear quarter panel and door into a sign on an exit. does that automatically make me a dumbass driver? obviously not. did i learn from my mistake? sure. so will that 17 year old. yeah, a lot more was lost than my panel, but the fact is that EVERYONE who drives one of these cars will push their luck NO MATTER how the **** they were raised. it just so happened that his luck wasn't with him.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:40 AM   #29
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I can't even imagine what those families are going through right now. Losing a child has to be like living in hell.

When a person loses a spouse, they are a widow/widower. When a child loses his parents, he is an orphan. But when a parent loses a child, there is no name for it...that's how unnatural it is.

A 17yr old without a license, should not be driving a car full of "kids" at 3:30 in the morning, on a rain-slick road.....especially in a car like an STI.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:42 AM   #30
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When a person loses a spouse, they are a widow/widower. When a child loses his parents, he is an orphan. But when a parent loses a child, there is no name for it...that's how unnatural it is.
May I use that in the future? That was really deep
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:47 AM   #31
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Heres my opinion as someone that had a STi at an early age and survived (I was smart enough to go to advanced driving school and track days for my speed kicks).

If I was a parent, would I get my kid a STi? Absolutely not, same goes for the Evo. The problem with these cars and young kids is the AWD makes them feel invincible, like you can handle the car above your driving limits in any situation. That ends up biting them in the ass as an inexperienced driver.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:02 AM   #32
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Wow... kind of crazy seeing this on the news. Being that the kid survived and all his passengers died is just a crazy lesson in life for both the parents and the driver. Having parents buy a high performance car as the first car for their kid is like getting a bazooka for first time gun owners. Damn shame. I wonder when this kid recovers what car he will get next.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:33 AM   #33
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if you're going to drive irresponsibly, bad stuff will happen regardless of if its in a 92 Mitsubishi Mirage DE or a Ferrari 458 Italia.
Not true, a car is not just a car. Go drive a 1976 Porsche 911 turbo and watch your ass spin that baby out. They were called widow makers because the turbo would kick in at some bad times and when it did if you did not know what you were doing you were spinning and hitting whatever was in the way.

This is just an example, a 300HP car in the hands of an inexperience kid that feels like he is a racecar driver (face it we all do), is a recipe for disaster.

Sure you can die in an old beater, but how come the insurance for old beaters is nothing but the insurance for a new STI is more (talking liability here) and the insurance for teen drivers is more.

Because the insurance companies have actuaries that get payed very well to crunch numbers and statistics that tell you that it is the young kid in the STI that will drive 100 mph on summer tires in october and crash his car and kill people. Not the old guy in a beater and probably not as much the young kid in a beater (no one to impress). Insurance companies know, because they are the ones who will paying out the ass for this mess.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:56 AM   #34
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May I use that in the future? That was really deep
Feel free. I didn't come up with it. I read it in an New York Time article years ago.

I would've quoted it, if I remembered who originally came up with it.

It really is deep. Even deeper, if you are a parent yourself.
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Old 10-09-2012, 02:08 PM   #35
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Now the news is saying they think this kid was driving stoned!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/i..._content=Local
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:30 PM   #36
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Im not saying the kid is not wrong, he was dumb as hell for what he did. But the people at fault are really his parents. Why are you buying your kid such an expensive and fast car for someone that just started driving. He is not even on his provisional license yet, it is a permit, that means he must be under supervision when he is driving. Also, what is he doing out late at night? My parents never let me out at night at that age, weekend or not. Sorry to stereotype, but kids at that age out at that hour are ALWAYS up to no good. Blame the parents.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:31 PM   #37
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Well this just got interesting. That might somewhat explain the going out at 3am part of the story. I feel bad for the families involved though.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:37 PM   #38
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It's very tragic What happened. I'm not necessarily sure why the parents would let a child drive the car when only having a permit, and on top of this an STi. I honestly cannot fathom. Something like this could've been avoided. It's a shame how horrible parenting played a huge role here.
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