Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Tuesday July 29, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC General > News & Rumors > Non-Subaru News & Rumors

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-18-2013, 02:40 PM   #1
AVANTI R5
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 73805
Join Date: Nov 2004
Default Alfa Romeo 4C sets ĎRing record




Quote:
That makes it the new Nurburgring lap record holder for production cars with less than 247bhp. It's also exactly the same time set by the Porsche Cayman S, a second quicker than the E92 BMW M3 and a full four seconds faster than a Renaultsport Megane 265 Trophy.

To help it around the "green hell", the Alfa did get a set of specially developed Pirelli P Zero Trofeo AR Racing tyres. But don't panic, you too will be able to spec your 4C with a set in either 17in (front)/18in (rear) or 18in (front)/19in (rear).
And it wasn't just the tyres. The 4C's new record (and, indeed, the car itself) is an attempt to demonstrate that small's the new big - remember, it's an exercise in downsizing lightweightery and packs a 1,750cc turbocharged four-pot petrol engine, which produces 240 bhp.

That's 268bhp per tonne, but has the pleasing side effect of emitting just 159g/km and returning a combined fuel economy average of 41.5mpg. By comparison, the Porsche Cayman chucks out 192g/km and averages 34.4mpg. So more record-breaking laps for your pound, too.
video at link

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/a...mpaign=ongoing
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
AVANTI R5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2013, 04:52 PM   #2
torquemada
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 128484
Join Date: Oct 2006
Chapter/Region: International
Location: Germany
Vehicle:
2006 EDM WRX STI
WRB

Default


Last edited by torquemada; 11-27-2013 at 12:46 AM.
torquemada is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2013, 07:39 AM   #3
Spenk
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 7164
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Arizona Bay
Vehicle:
2000 Miata LS
Evo Orange Mica (1/644)

Default

Brilliant car.

Quote:

Jeremy Clarkson
October 14, 2013

The Clarkson review: Alfa Romeo 4C




My coffee machine is a complete and utter pain in the backside. Itís a wall-mounted Gaggia and I cannot recall a single occasion when, after pushing the button, I have taken delivery of a cup of actual coffee.

It always wants water, and after youíve filled up its bowl, it says: ďEmpty trays.Ē So you empty them, and then it says they arenít emptied properly. So you empty them again and then again, and then you scrub them until they shine like a furnace workerís face. And then you put them back and it says: ďTrays missing.Ē So you put them in again more firmly, several times, until it says: ďEmpty trays.Ē

Eventually, of course, you resort to extreme brute force, whereupon it becomes Italian and changes tack. ďAdd beans,Ē it says. So you open another tin of £900 Illy coffee beans and, being careful not to upset the trays in any way, you pour them into ó as I write, I can hear it doing things in the kitchen, but I donít know what ó the bean drawer. And then it says: ďClean unit.Ē So you have to go against every male instinct and find the instruction book, which tells you to hold clamp A while squeezing nozzle B for about a couple of hours, and then when you put it all back together it says it wants decalcifying.

Usually I donít get my morning coffee until itís time for afternoon tea. But, of course, itís worth persevering, because when the moment finally arrives the result tastes a whole lot nicer than the instant alternative.

Itís the same story with your choice of pet. A dog requires almost constant attention. It raids your bin, gets the bones itís nicked stuck in its throat, bites the postman, eats the milk lady, poos on the carpet, wants a walk when itís raining, barks in the night for no reason and gets ill on Christmas Day, when the vet is too drunk to come over. But despite all this itís so much more satisfying than a feed-and-forget cat.

Which naturally brings me on to Alfa Romeo, an experience thatís subtly different. I had one once, a GTV6, and it was like a coffee machine ó that had been designed by a dog. At night it would let all the air escape from its tyres, its clutch would weld itself to the flywheel and once it dropped its gear linkage onto the prop shaft, causing an extremely loud noise to happen, followed by the rear wheels locking up. It was a constant nightmare.

But hereís the thing: even when it was a sunny day, and it wasnít being premenstrual, it was a pretty horrible car to drive. The steering was too heavy, the driving position was tailored for an ape, second gear was impossible to find and it handled as though it was running on heroin.

Itís not alone, either. At present, the Giulietta is ho-hum and the MiTo is ghastly. And if we plunge into the pages of recent history, we find the 8C, which wasnít quite as good as it looked, and the SZ, which was the other way round. But only because it looked as if it had been designed by a madman. The 33, the 75, the 156, the 159 and the 164? Thereís not a great car there. Just many puddles of oil on your garage floor.

And yet Alfa Romeo is still my favourite car maker. I still believe you canít really call yourself a petrolhead until youíve owned one. So why is this?

Itís no good going back to the Sixties and saying: ďItís because of the GTA.Ē Yes, it was fabulous, but it was one car in a torrent of rubbish. Judging Alfa on this one achievement would be the same as ignoring all of Mussoliniís crimes simply because he once bought his mother some flowers.

Iíve had a good, long think and reckon that in all its history Alfa has made only four or five really good cars. Memorable cars. And that in the past 30 years it hasnít made one.

Yet the love remains and I think itís because we all sort of know what Alfa could and should be making. We have in our minds a mini Ferrari. A supercar on a shoestring. Pretty as hell, lithe as a greyhound, cheap as chips and built for fun. We have in our minds the car you see here this morning. The 4C. Sadly, pictures do not do this little car justice. In the flesh it is utterly gorgeous. Spoilt, some say, by the headlamps. Yes, maybe, in the way Cindy Crawford is spoilt by her mole ó that is, not spoilt at all.

But itís not the looks that impress most with the 4C. Itís how itís made. Before this, if you wanted a car with an all-carbon-fibre tub, you had a choice: you bought a machine such as a McLaren MP4-12C or you bought a Formula One racer. Itís expensive to make a car this way, but thatís what Alfa has done.

The benefit is lightness, and thatís a theme it has continued throughout. So, if youíre after luxury and soundproofing and lots of standard equipment, forget it. Thereís no satellite navigation. You donít even get power steering.

The result is a car that tips the scales, fat with fluids, at well under a ton. Which means it doesnít need a big engine. Instead, mounted in the middle of the car, is a 1742cc turbo unit that itself is made to be so light it has to be bolted in place to stop it floating away.

Disappointed that it only has the four-cylinder engine from a motorised pencil sharpener? Well, donít be. Because, thanks to the lightness, you can get to 62mph in 4.5 seconds and onwards past 160mph. Way past, I found. Oh, and 40mpg-plus is on the cards as well.

I shall make no bones about it. I loved this car. Itís like being at the controls of a housefly. You can brake later than you think possible into corners, knowing that thereís barely any weight to transfer. And it has so much grip. Then thereís the noise. Or rather noises. It makes thousands. All loud. All mad.

Yes, the interior trim is shocking, but if you want that lightness, itís the price you pay. And you do want it. Because lightness is coming. It has to. It makes both the polar bear and the petrolhead happy. And in the Alfa it made me very happy indeed. I drove the car round Lake Como on a sunny evening and there was almost a tear in my eye. I kept thinking that life didnít really get any better.

Now the boring stuff. I fitted easily. The boot is big. The dash readout is clever and clear so you donít need spectacles to see how fast youíre going. And you can choose how you want your car to feel. Really. Just put it in Dynamic mode. And leave it there.

There are only a couple of drawbacks. The gearbox is a bit dim-witted and the steering isnít quite as sharp as I had been expecting. Also, itís wider than a Mercedes SLS AMG, which means itís wider than Utah. And it costs around £45,000. That, for a carbon fibre-tubbed mini-supercar, is not bad at all. But it does put it in the same price bracket as a Porsche Cayman.

Of course, the Cayman is more in tune with where we are now. It feels sturdy, and well made and luxurious. But that sort of thing will have to stop. We will have to go down Alfaís route, which means, in fact, the 4C feels like the future.

It also feels like the Alfa that the company made only in your dreams. It feels wonderful. Iím sure, naturally, that it will be like my coffee machine to own. But, unlike with any other Alfa in living memory, the rewards will make all the effort worth it.





Verdict ★★★★☆

Alfa, it's good to have you back



Factfile

Alfa Romeo 4C

Price: £45,000
Engine: 1742cc, 4 cylinders
Power: 237bhp @ 6000rpm
Torque: 258 lb ft @ 2200rpm
Transmission: 6-speed dual clutch
Acceleration: 0-62mph in 4.5sec
Top speed: 160mph
Fuel: 41.5mpg (combined)
CO2: 157g/km
Road tax band: G (£175 for first year)
Spenk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2013, 09:19 AM   #4
Lrn2Corner
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 246224
Join Date: May 2010
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Chesapeake
Vehicle:
2012 WRX Sedan
12 Rav4 V6

Default

Now that is a pretty cool car and the price is not bad at all. except we will never see it in the states.
Lrn2Corner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2013, 10:13 AM   #5
torquemada
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 128484
Join Date: Oct 2006
Chapter/Region: International
Location: Germany
Vehicle:
2006 EDM WRX STI
WRB

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lrn2Corner View Post
Now that is a pretty cool car and the price is not bad at all. except we will never see it in the states.
living under a rock?
torquemada is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2013, 09:51 AM   #6
design1stcode2nd
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 112178
Join Date: Apr 2006
Default

Our version will just be 300lbs heavier...
design1stcode2nd is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.