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Old 10-04-2007, 04:06 PM   #1
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Default Anybody here into kart racing?

I recently got to drive my friends racing kart... single speed, modified 5hp B&S engine running on methanol with beefed up con-rod, carb, cam, milled head, polished intake port, straight pipe exhaust. He's got it geared for acceleration and it tops out at about 65mph. He's got another set of gears for it that'll supposedly push it past 100mph.

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I have a 5hp yard cart that I tinker around with and it's pretty quick... but JEEZ his kart is on a whole other level!! It rolls on 11" wide slicks and handles like it's tapped into your brain.

Insanely fun. He's got a friend with another kart frame he'll sell cheap so I'm gonna buy it. I'm rebuilding a 5hp B&S engine off an old tiller to stick on it.

Anybody here into karting? Got any pics of your karts?
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:09 PM   #2
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a lot of us in NE race rental karts, there are a number of tracks around here for that sort of thing (maine indoor karting, f1 boston, racing america closed, but that sort of thing). I can only imagine what a serrious racing kart that's not toned down for public use would be like. Must be fun as hell
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:13 PM   #3
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GTF and I saw folks racing seriously fast carts up at NHIS last year and that looked pretty ****ing sick...those guys were flying. They were all virtually lying down and going three wide in a turn inches away from each other...IIRC it was some sort of Amateur/Pro racing series. Whatever it was it looked like the most scary fun you could have...
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:14 PM   #4
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a lot of us in NE race rental karts, there are a number of tracks around here for that sort of thing (maine indoor karting, f1 boston, racing america closed, but that sort of thing). I can only imagine what a serrious racing kart that's not toned down for public use would be like. Must be fun as hell
Yeah there's some places like that around here like Victory Lane Karting in Charlotte. I haven't been there yet, but I can't imaging the karts are as quick as what I drove.

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GTF and I saw folks racing seriously fast carts up at NHIS last year and that looked pretty ****ing sick...those guys were flying. They were all virtually lying down and going three wide in a turn inches away from each other...IIRC it was some sort of Amateur/Pro racing series. Whatever it was it looked like the most scary fun you could have...
Yep... the seat was so reclined that I was almost laying back. It was so low that if you hit a bump wrong you'd definitely feel it hitting your arse
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:18 PM   #5
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:20 PM   #6
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Im in a racing league at Chicago Indoor racing. Their karts are nice, but still pretty slow to accelerate. However 5hp = 100mph I think that's BS. Either he has more HP or is stretching the truth quite a bit.
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:24 PM   #7
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It looks like a blast. I think just wrenching on a 5HP engine that can propel you to 100MPH is a blast. (One of the reasons why I like my scoot, not going 100 though )

There was a similar thread with the baddest video I have ever seen on youtube posted of an onboard camera mounted on a shifter kart racing through some city streets, guy was hitting 100 easy. Unfortunatly the video has been removed.
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:24 PM   #8
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Im in a racing league at Chicago Indoor racing. Their karts are nice, but still pretty slow to accelerate. However 5hp = 100mph I think that's BS. Either he has more HP or is stretching the truth quite a bit.
The BASE engine is a 5hp briggs. With the mods I listed the CR is raised, timing advanced, breathing is better... he's probably pushing 20hp+ out of it (it revs to around 10k rpm!!!)

EDIT: lets just say I can personally vouch for 60mph with the gears he had on it, and it felt like it had plenty more to give
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:26 PM   #9
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there is a kart track in Wallingford, CT.. if you provide five timeslips with at least one lap below a certain time (defined by driver weight) they let you use their "superkart" which as far as i can tell is not a shifter kart, but is a bigger kart than the regular rentals..
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:28 PM   #10
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I've gone once and am trying to get a league going here in the NoVA area. Funds for racing are still my downfall. Its the primary reason the motorcycle and STi haven't seen the track yet
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:30 PM   #11
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there is a kart track in Wallingford, CT.. if you provide five timeslips with at least one lap below a certain time (defined by driver weight) they let you use their "superkart" which as far as i can tell is not a shifter kart, but is a bigger kart than the regular rentals..
nice... I wonder if the place up here does that.

I doubt they'd give you a shifter kart- which is ok because I think I would be too chicken**** to drive a shifter kart anyway

60mph is quite fast enough with my butt 1.5" off the ground!
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:32 PM   #12
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Which is why you don't slow down.

I love indoor karting. I was addicted to it for a while. There's an okay track here, but I still haven't gotten seriously back into. I'm tempted to buy a big chunk of credits for the discount and just have at it.

Unfortunately I've already run into some NASCAR goons whose pride won't allow them to pull over when they get blue flagged.
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:35 PM   #13
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karting is pretty exhausting too.. i always come off the track breathing hard and trying to shake life back into my forearms. there's a lotta g-forces out there. i used to go out on the track and hang the tail out around every turn. then i started to realize i was losing precious speed.. keeping the karts right on the edge of control = win
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:35 PM   #14
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We've got acouple of kids that come out to the autocrosses in our region. One of their fathers brought his shifter cart out one time and was > < that close to FTD.
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:42 PM   #15
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karting is pretty exhausting too.. i always come off the track breathing hard and trying to shake life back into my forearms.
after driving that cart for a while i got back in my WRX and the steering wheel seemed so light it was like it was turning itself
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when half-decent kart drivers show up to our autoxs (which is pretty common) they pretty much always walk away with FTD by a significant margin.
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:54 PM   #17
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after driving that cart for a while i got back in my WRX and the steering wheel seemed so light it was like it was turning itself
yeah, want to make a miata feel like an averweight, clumsy slob? go karting
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when half-decent kart drivers show up to our autoxs (which is pretty common) they pretty much always walk away with FTD by a significant margin.
We have a nationals-level driver in a Boxster that just squeaked by the guy that ran with us.
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:01 PM   #19
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You should go up to VIR when they run the shifter karts. A bud of mine races up there occasionally and Ive driven his kart.

I was like for the rest of that night
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:01 PM   #20
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yeah, want to make a miata feel like an averweight, clumsy slob? go karting
Yeah, I always laugh when people say a Miata has "go kart handling". Uh, no.
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:05 PM   #21
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Yeah, I always laugh when people say a Miata has "go kart handling". Uh, no.
nothing that weighs more than 200lbs and has more than 1/2 turn steering with TONS of dynamic camber will ever really have "go-kart" handling... but it's still fun to say. Seriously though, when we left the karting place last weekend and I hopped into the miata, I thought something was broken, it felt so numb! The next day at autox it felt fun as hell again though

i can only imagine driving a kart with 11" wide tires on asphalt... the grip must be eye-sucking. Even indoor, on relatively narrow tires and painted concrete the things wil pull a pretty serious turn.

I thought drifting them would be hard, because of the incredibly short wheelbase, I thought they'd snap oversteer pretty badly, but they're HIGHLY controllable. Too bad it's the slowest way around the track short of hitting things...
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:13 PM   #23
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yeah, most of nesic is abuzz with excitement. it's gonna be awesome. Gotta find my gloves though... and the dark faceshield for my helmet, in case it's sunny.

i think i need to put the seat further forward too, i was steering largely at teh bottom of the wheel last time, which I think really tired my wrists out.
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Looking forward to the NESIC Karting this weekend.
Man, I would so love to join you guys.

I came this close to going by myself today, but I'm too slammed.
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idj- if you're ever in new england for any reason, you'd better let us know. we'll make an afternoon of it.
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