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Old 04-25-2014, 10:45 PM   #1
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Default 7-8k for a ski car that needs to last 1.5 years

ok so my girlfriend has 7-8k to spend on a car for us to use for the ski season . In 1.5 years we will move to the west coast so that's all it needs to last . I wanted to try a rwd car and figured I would buy a 2016 sti or evo once I get to Seattle .


For 7-8k what would be the most reliable vehicle that will handle upstate New York and maybe even a trip to tremblant (past Montreal in the winter ) . Has mileage isn't a concern her commute is 2 miles .


These are the vehicles with awd that come up in that range
- ford escapes / Mazda version
- jeep liberty
- hyuandai Santa fes
- occasional outback under 100k
- occasional legacy pre 05 under 100k
- I saw a 2010 impreza for 8k with 50k but seemed too good to be true
- Suzuki sx4 (are these **** ?)
- vw passaats
- Volvo 60
- ford ranger .
- any others ?

Also if your between say an 07 outback with 120k and a 01 outback with 90k which is better for the same price ?


What about fwd cars too ?



Whatever we get I will get her snows on a set of steel wheels .


Sorry for a silly question i just don't want to make a bad call. I always gives friends advice like how the labor on vws and audis is insane for things like bad cats or all their vacuum lines but here I'm not 100% sure
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Old 04-25-2014, 10:48 PM   #2
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and please don't make this about me getting a rwd car for a year and a half . I want to get it out of my system and she will appreciate it because everytime we travel I normally get a challenger r/t or camaro ss and do way too much dicking around in parking garages and lots . Donuts burnouts etc (because I can only do them in the snow if I'm lucky )
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Old 04-25-2014, 11:24 PM   #3
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So let me get this straight; you are selling your WRX to buy a RWD car, and your GF is getting a car for ski trips? Are you not planning on skiing on the west coast? They have mountains and snow too, you know.

Ones you missed:

Subaru Forester
Subaru Baja
Dodge Dakota
Chevy Colorado/GMC Canyon
Dodge Magnum
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:17 AM   #4
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Lol @ "ski car" in jersey.
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Old 04-26-2014, 01:59 AM   #5
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Ford escape. Girls seem to like those.
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Old 04-26-2014, 07:20 AM   #6
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[quote="dirty_sanchez;41853312"]Lol @ "ski car" in jersey.[/QUOTE ]

Troll elsewhere , last year I had 46 ski days went to sugarloaf tremblant jay peak and am a season pass holder at whiteface NY , gore mountain and belleayre NY.


I used my west coast powder skis more times on the east than I did when I flew out to bridger bowl big sky and revelstoke . Aka when you get 12 inches you take a sick or vacation day and get your ass to the mountain
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Old 04-26-2014, 08:51 AM   #7
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02-05 WRX Wagon.

Try to find a mostly stock one.

Perfect beater ski car on the cheap. Stinks to have a car in the mountains that struggles up the hills.
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:19 AM   #8
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Suzuki SX4 is a nice little car has locking 4 wheel drive instead of awd. No much power but defiantly reliable.
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:31 AM   #9
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:56 AM   #10
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RWD for the snow? If you like going sideways (and perhaps rolling off the side of a canyon), then RWD is perfect for the snow.

Edit: "2016 Evo" LOL
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Old 04-26-2014, 10:24 AM   #11
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RWD for the snow? If you like going sideways (and perhaps rolling off the side of a canyon), then RWD is perfect for the snow. Edit: "2016 Evo" LOL
Please re read my post . My girlfriend is getting a awd car and I'm getting her snow tires so she can get us to the mountain so I can finally try my first rwd car
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Old 04-26-2014, 11:01 AM   #12
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I am also a dedicated weekend warrior from the Tri-State area.

I think the key attribute for an East Coast ski mobile is the ability to cover long distances, mostly on highways, in variable road conditions. It is quite rare that you would find unplowed roads, deep ruts or extended steep grades that require true off-road capability (low range, lift, etc). The challenge is if it is snowing, you still need to cover say 250 miles to get from NJ to Whiteface. For this reason, I think the key aspect of the set up is a good set of snow tires. If you put those on a FWD car you are probably in good enough shape. AWD gives you the extra confidence and capability in the event you happen to be driving in a Noreaster.

In my mind, my Subie is actually better suited to maintain higher speeds on packed snow on the highway than a proper heavy duty pick-up or SUV. The weakness is it can get high-centered rather easily, but I generally don't encounter those types of conditions.

Then we also have the question of fuel efficiency and personal preference. Any of the Subarus that are listed will do just fine with a set of snows.
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:33 PM   #13
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I am also a dedicated weekend warrior from the Tri-State area. I think the key attribute for an East Coast ski mobile is the ability to cover long distances, mostly on highways, in variable road conditions. It is quite rare that you would find unplowed roads, deep ruts or extended steep grades that require true off-road capability (low range, lift, etc). The challenge is if it is snowing, you still need to cover say 250 miles to get from NJ to Whiteface. For this reason, I think the key aspect of the set up is a good set of snow tires. If you put those on a FWD car you are probably in good enough shape. AWD gives you the extra confidence and capability in the event you happen to be driving in a Noreaster. In my mind, my Subie is actually better suited to maintain higher speeds on packed snow on the highway than a proper heavy duty pick-up or SUV. The weakness is it can get high-centered rather easily, but I generally don't encounter those types of conditions. Then we also have the question of fuel efficiency and personal preference. Any of the Subarus that are listed will do just fine with a set of snows.
Yeah your right due to the low base altitude of most mountains there arnt any steep inclines to most mountains other than sugarloaf .

The inclines was where I figured awd would **** on fwd with snows because you get 50% more traction vs 25% more with snows vs all seasons .
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91 Honda CRX-SI with a rear hatch mounted ski rack. 4 good snows in a narrower, taller size than stock. It will last longer, be more fun and be cheaper and more practical than anything else suggested. $3500 will bring a pristine example and $5k will bring a 1.8L swap. For that entire $7-8k, you can find a poor man's type R swap and likely a LSD tranny car. With good snows, you'll drive circles around any AWD car on all seasons. I had one of these and laughed at explorers and 4x4 pickups on the side of the road with their worn all seasons and 2 wheels spinning. I even pulled a snowmobile with it from Hopkinton, MA to Pittsburg, NH (well over 5 hours) many times.
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91 Honda CRX-SI with a rear hatch mounted ski rack. 4 good snows in a narrower, taller size than stock. It will last longer, be more fun and be cheaper and more practical than anything else suggested. $3500 will bring a pristine example and $5k will bring a 1.8L swap. For that entire $7-8k, you can find a poor man's type R swap and likely a LSD tranny car. With good snows, you'll drive circles around any AWD car on all seasons. I had one of these and laughed at explorers and 4x4 pickups on the side of the road with their worn all seasons and 2 wheels spinning. I even pulled a snowmobile with it from Hopkinton, MA to Pittsburg, NH (well over 5 hours) many times.
That's the one with the flat trunk right ? Now dumb question I know narrower tires are better in the snow and wider is better for sand or dragging if your loosing traction .

Can you put smaller tires on almost any car as long as the rim is smaller ?


Ie if we have something that's a 235 we can get a 225 no problem most of the time as long as the wheel is a 225?

I know going bigger you have to roll fenders and stuff
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96 Outback with a 2.2 and 5m/t

It will cost $700-$800 and last 15 more years.

There, I exceeded your expectations.
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96 Outback with a 2.2 and 5m/t It will cost $700-$800 and last 15 more years. There, I exceeded your expectations.
Lol yeah after a headgasket swAp and then maybe an engine swap .
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Lol yeah after a headgasket swAp and then maybe an engine swap .
It's a 2.2, they don't have headgasket issues.

Cam / crank seals leaking, but at this point those have probably already been replaced with the new seals anyway.
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Give your girl the WRX. Buy Supercharged Miata for 7K.

Done deal.
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That's the one with the flat trunk right ? Now dumb question I know narrower tires are better in the snow and wider is better for sand or dragging if your loosing traction .

Can you put smaller tires on almost any car as long as the rim is smaller ?


Ie if we have something that's a 235 we can get a 225 no problem most of the time as long as the wheel is a 225?

I know going bigger you have to roll fenders and stuff
You don't have to do anything with the wheels. Just buy narrower tires. Talk with Luke at Tire Rack. Tell him the car you have and that you want narrower snow tires. If your tires are 235-45-17, you can go to something like a 205-55-17. They're close in diameter. You can use the powerdog tire calculator to pick a size.

Any Civic based car has the same lego-like capabilities and cheap cost.
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How bout a yugo or a aztec
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Old 04-27-2014, 11:07 AM   #22
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Give your girl the WRX. Buy Supercharged Miata for 7K. Done deal.
She can't drive stick ... And I'm not sure if I want to teach her
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You don't have to do anything with the wheels. Just buy narrower tires. Talk with Luke at Tire Rack. Tell him the car you have and that you want narrower snow tires. If your tires are 235-45-17, you can go to something like a 205-55-17. They're close in diameter. You can use the powerdog tire calculator to pick a size. Any Civic based car has the same lego-like capabilities and cheap cost.
Awesome thanks
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96 Outback with a 2.2 and 5m/t

It will cost $700-$800 and last 15 more years.

There, I exceeded your expectations.
This. Why spend 7k+ on a car you're planning to dump in a year and a half anyway? Toss all your ski gear in, don't be afraid to dent and scratch her, and then resell her for almost the same money when you're ready to move. Simple as that.
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This. Why spend 7k+ on a car you're planning to dump in a year and a half anyway? Toss all your ski gear in, don't be afraid to dent and scratch her, and then resell her for almost the same money when you're ready to move. Simple as that. -Art
Well see the thing is for the last 3 months I'll move to Seattle before my girlfriend joins me . So I don't really want something on the verge of reliability for her

And the way u see it if I get an 4wd escape for 7k we can sell it for close to 4.5-5kn when leaving .

Hell I would love to get her a jeep liberty or a 4wd ford ranger which I could but she isn't really ecstatic on the way they look
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Well see the thing is for the last 3 months I'll move to Seattle before my girlfriend joins me . So I don't really want something on the verge of reliability for her

And the way u see it if I get an 4wd escape for 7k we can sell it for close to 4.5-5kn when leaving .

Hell I would love to get her a jeep liberty or a 4wd ford ranger which I could but she isn't really ecstatic on the way they look
That's a good point yuik, in that case take your time and find a decently clean one. Having worked at a Ford Dealership for a long time I saw Escapes going strong at 200K+ and also falling apart at 80K; all depending on the previous owner. Underbody rust was a major issue here for us, so make sure you do a close inspection underneath. You really can't go wrong with an Escape, especially for the time frame of ownership that you're shooting for.
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