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Old 01-27-2014, 05:11 PM   #1
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After years of fighting them we finally decided to do something about the stock Subaru cam pulley bolts.

Introducing the new from TiC FU Cam Bolts.

Available in mid to late February these Subaru cam pulley bolts will be available in both AVCS and Non-AVCS configurations.

Both versions are coated, hardened to grade 8, and feature a 17mm hex that you can get a real socket on to.

If you've ever stripped out that BS 10mm allen fitting on the stock one you'll realize how we came up with the name for these bad boys.

Expect to see them for yourself and available from the finer Subaru engine assemblers very soon.











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Old 01-27-2014, 06:43 PM   #2
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Old 01-27-2014, 06:54 PM   #3
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:05 PM   #4
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Old 01-27-2014, 09:25 PM   #5
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Old 01-27-2014, 09:46 PM   #6
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I've assembled a load of Subaru engines and have never stripped out the 10mm cam sprocket bolt hex. I always use a breaker bar compared to an impact driver (which I know others have used and stripped the bolt). Have I just been lucky?
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Old 01-27-2014, 10:00 PM   #7
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Sonofa figures after I just got everything apart and put back together..... Hate those stupid bolts
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:27 AM   #8
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I've assembled a load of Subaru engines and have never stripped out the 10mm cam sprocket bolt hex. I always use a breaker bar compared to an impact driver (which I know others have used and stripped the bolt). Have I just been lucky?
You've been lucky. We JUST had one yesterday that stripped out and had to be drilled. This was using a breaker bar, and a good quality allen key (we've tried just about every one we can find out there. The good ones last longer, but eventually twist or shatter).
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Old 01-28-2014, 02:25 PM   #9
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Awesome! Excellent thinking.

I'm going to be waiting for the non-avcs set.

Thanks guys!
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Old 01-28-2014, 03:28 PM   #10
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Good to see you bring these to mass production Clint. Looking forward to getting a set for my self to see. You should make a grade 10 or stronger one for the exhaust side as well since those M F'er's are more harder to remove
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:04 PM   #11
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If you ever come to CA I'm buying you guys a round of beers.

I wonder what price point (I assume you cannot post that here?) I'll take like... 12.
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Old 01-28-2014, 08:05 PM   #12
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Excuse my ignorance, but what is the (iso, din, etc.) spec on the OEM variant? It feel warm and cozy about buying some sets of these knowing they were as strong or marginally stronger than OEM.

Great idea BTW!
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Old 01-28-2014, 08:16 PM   #13
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I've assembled a load of Subaru engines and have never stripped out the 10mm cam sprocket bolt hex. I always use a breaker bar compared to an impact driver (which I know others have used and stripped the bolt). Have I just been lucky?
You have been very lucky.

I would say probably 25% chance of one or all stripping, granted it's been almost 4 years since I spent time in a Subaru service dept, it's probably even higher now that these cars are even older.

I'm usually pretty quick to defend Subaru engineering / parts quality and I'll be the first to say those bolts are bull****

Nice job TiC!
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Old 01-28-2014, 08:32 PM   #14
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Excuse my ignorance, but what is the (iso, din, etc.) spec on the OEM variant? It feel warm and cozy about buying some sets of these knowing they were as strong or marginally stronger than OEM.

Great idea BTW!
we could not find that as there are NO markings on the stock bolts to denote any way of telling.
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we could not find that as there are NO markings on the stock bolts to denote any way of telling.
You should take them to an engineering lab and have them provide more details on the OEM bolt strength. That'd be a cheap $500 worth of peace of mind.
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∆ agreed. Maybe it's not as critical as I'm assuming, but I hate assuming and finding out the hard way. Less than $500 in materials lab testing will tell you precisely what you're starting from and give dorks like me, and the masses, peace of mind.
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Old 01-29-2014, 08:10 PM   #17
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∆ agreed. Maybe it's not as critical as I'm assuming, but I hate assuming and finding out the hard way. Less than $500 in materials lab testing will tell you precisely what you're starting from and give dorks like me, and the masses, peace of mind.
Cincinnati Steel Treating has a full lab and the guys there are nice. I'm going o give them a ring tomorrow and see what it would take to do a full workup on the stock bolts.
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Cincinnati Steel Treating has a full lab and the guys there are nice. I'm going o give them a ring tomorrow and see what it would take to do a full workup on the stock bolts.
Yea buddy! Thanks for not getting defensive and listening. As a mechanical engineer, I've dealt with some super weird design situations where something you may not have thought to be critical, ends up making or breaking the success of the design. So as said above, your current design may already be overkill or it may be that Subaru had to use a whiz bang steel to prevent bolt heads from popping off test engines after 40k miles and you need to match the strength.
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Are you all using any of these in your race cars yet?
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Old 01-29-2014, 10:55 PM   #20
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Old 01-30-2014, 01:01 PM   #21
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So I just got back from the lab. We tested a brand new, in bag Subaru bolt. Here's what we found.

No case hardening
66 on Rockwell A
30 on Rockwell C
77 on the 15N scale

With that being said I think we're gonna be just fine doing these to Grade 8.
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How do we get on a list to buy these? How much will they cost?
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:10 PM   #24
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How do we get on a list to buy these? How much will they cost?
I'll make an announcement when they come in. As it stands now I have a number of purchase orders from a number of other shops for them for builds.

I can't share pricing in the announcement thread, but I'll shoot you a PM.
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