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Old 05-18-2013, 12:20 AM   #26
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does this step need to be done on the opposite side? or will unplugging the wire on the intake side disable both at once?
That's the only plug. disables both sides.
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:45 AM   #27
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Going to be doing this tomorrow! Nice write up.

For those not getting why someone would do this, your headlights are a "wear" item. Why run them and wear them out faster then they need to? It's actually really nice to see the DRL fad starting to go away. Many new cars I'm noticing don't have them.
my brakes are a "wear" item... hmm

going to remove them tomorrow so that i can save brake pad and rotor life.
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:39 AM   #28
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my brakes are a "wear" item... hmm

going to remove them tomorrow so that i can save brake pad and rotor life.
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Old 05-20-2013, 02:40 PM   #29
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On my 2011 WRX, I took out the DRL relay under the hood, and cut off a pin (don't remember which one ), stuck the relay back in and DRL lights went off, and Hi-beams still work. Took 5 seconds.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:03 PM   #30
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i purchased the car brand new, and there was definitely never anything there as the bottom where the snorkus would be is sealed
The snorkus only is on the 2011+ stis... not the wrx
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:53 AM   #31
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Anyone know how to remove the brake lights from illuminating with my headlights on? They look ugly and I would like to conserve the life of the bulbs.
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:02 PM   #32
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If you do this will you loose the use of your high beams?

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No, and you also won't tight the use of your high beams either.

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Old 05-21-2013, 12:26 PM   #33
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Going to be doing this tomorrow! Nice write up.

For those not getting why someone would do this, your headlights are a "wear" item. Why run them and wear them out faster then they need to? It's actually really nice to see the DRL fad starting to go away. Many new cars I'm noticing don't have them.
I don't think DRLs are a fad, starting to go away. They are becoming more prevalent not less prevalent, with many manufacturers equipping their vehicles with them. In addition, DRLs are mandated in many countries. You probably have noticed that all motorcycles in the US have daytime lights. That is because it is a safety item. I'd rather replace bulbs on occasion than the alternative.

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The stock DRLs in my opinion are not very appealing. Need something that stands out a bit more
Check this thread out if you would like to implement an alternative, which is more appealing. If you perform this mod, keep in mind that you can run your fogs at 1/2 power or full power, depending upon where you tap into the circuit.

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Old 05-21-2013, 02:21 PM   #34
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I don't think DRLs are a fad, starting to go away. They are becoming more prevalent not less prevalent, with many manufacturers equipping their vehicles with them. In addition, DRLs are mandated in many countries. You probably have noticed that all motorcycles in the US have daytime lights. That is because it is a safety item. I'd rather replace bulbs on occasion than the alternative.
The insurance decrease you get for having them makes up for any increased wear costs also
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Old 05-21-2013, 02:27 PM   #35
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The only thing I that bothers me about DRL is when it starts to rain or when its still dark out people forget to turn on their headlights since they see the DRL turn on. Just something that I see when driving.

I have no problem with the idea of DRL but I don't like the yellow high beams I prefer the LED's
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:36 AM   #36
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DRLs are a fine idea. high-beam DRLs run through a resistor to lower power, are a bad implementation. Go ahead and google Daniel Stern (automotive lighting expert) and DRLs and read what he has to say.

Headlight beam DRLs don't provide the light an effective DRL is supposed to (Daniel explains this better than I can), it is a crappy $5 solution for Subaru to put high-beam DRLs in cars that have optional low beam HIDs. This would be OK, except that running the high beam bulb at a low power builds up deposits in the bulb. So just when you need the high beam the most...it is artificially dim while the deposits burn off at full brightness. This is fine for a low-beam system, you use the lows for long periods the deposits burn off everything is fine. But this does not work well for high-beams which are typically used for short periods when you really need the extra light.

TL;DR It does seem on the face of it, to be a simple case of "a light is a light on the front of the car" but that is not the case with a proper DRL. Since a high-beam DRL sucks, and makes your high beams dimmer than they should be, it is a pretty damn good case for disabling them.
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:55 AM   #37
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DRLs are a fine idea. high-beam DRLs run through a resistor to lower power, are a bad implementation. Go ahead and google Daniel Stern (automotive lighting expert) and DRLs and read what he has to say.

Headlight beam DRLs don't provide the light an effective DRL is supposed to (Daniel explains this better than I can), it is a crappy $5 solution for Subaru to put high-beam DRLs in cars that have optional low beam HIDs. This would be OK, except that running the high beam bulb at a low power builds up deposits in the bulb. So just when you need the high beam the most...it is artificially dim while the deposits burn off at full brightness. This is fine for a low-beam system, you use the lows for long periods the deposits burn off everything is fine. But this does not work well for high-beams which are typically used for short periods when you really need the extra light.

TL;DR It does seem on the face of it, to be a simple case of "a light is a light on the front of the car" but that is not the case with a proper DRL. Since a high-beam DRL sucks, and makes your high beams dimmer than they should be, it is a pretty damn good case for disabling them.
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Old 05-24-2013, 01:18 AM   #38
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:09 PM   #39
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DRLs are a fine idea. high-beam DRLs run through a resistor to lower power, are a bad implementation. Go ahead and google Daniel Stern (automotive lighting expert) and DRLs and read what he has to say.

Headlight beam DRLs don't provide the light an effective DRL is supposed to (Daniel explains this better than I can), it is a crappy $5 solution for Subaru to put high-beam DRLs in cars that have optional low beam HIDs. This would be OK, except that running the high beam bulb at a low power builds up deposits in the bulb. So just when you need the high beam the most...it is artificially dim while the deposits burn off at full brightness. This is fine for a low-beam system, you use the lows for long periods the deposits burn off everything is fine. But this does not work well for high-beams which are typically used for short periods when you really need the extra light.

TL;DR It does seem on the face of it, to be a simple case of "a light is a light on the front of the car" but that is not the case with a proper DRL. Since a high-beam DRL sucks, and makes your high beams dimmer than they should be, it is a pretty damn good case for disabling them.
Bah. Anyone that simply doesn't like DRL can make up a lot of theories to support their claims but the bottom line is that countries are adopting them because they work. They do make cars more visible in various daylight hours. This matters to everyone including pedestrians.

While there may be some theory to support the claims of shorter lamp life the reality is there really isn't any real proof to support it. My wife has a 2007 Outlander owned since new and six years and it is still using its original bulbs. I haven't replaced a headlight bulb in over a decade and DRL's have been mandatory since the early 90's. There have been no epidemics of lamp failure or dim high beams here.

I get that some Americans don't like them but stuff like this is nothing but typical Internet conspiracy. DRL's increase safety end of story. You want to disable them fine but don't make them out to be some sort of government conspiracy or bulb killing mandate.
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Old 05-25-2013, 09:47 AM   #40
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Old 05-25-2013, 10:11 AM   #41
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Am I the only person who drives with my night time lights on at all times of the day? I've always did this, even with cars from the 80s that had the flip up headlights that looked ugly. And most cars today automatically turn the lights off when you turn the car off.

I was inspired as a child by the big trucks with trailer stickers that read, "We drive with our lights on for safety" Plus I like shiny things.
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Old 05-25-2013, 03:36 PM   #42
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Am I the only person who drives with my night time lights on at all times of the day? I've always did this, even with cars from the 80s that had the flip up headlights that looked ugly. And most cars today automatically turn the lights off when you turn the car off.

I was inspired as a child by the big trucks with trailer stickers that read, "We drive with our lights on for safety" Plus I like shiny things.
Yes.

I used to own two vehicles that that my drl's were the actual headlight. When it got dark the sensor would turn on all the lights. Never had to touch the lights. I liked that setup the best.
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:45 PM   #43
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Bah.
Respectfully, do you even read before replying? The two points you made (bulb life and DRL effectiveness) had absolutely nothing to do with my points. Though bulb life is a function of the on time, so there isn't any debate about bulb life with a high beam bulb DRL. Subaru and many OEMs use very long life bulbs for that reason. I prefer brighter bulbs with shorter life myself, I'll take greater vision distance at night you can have your DRLs, everything is a compromise.

I'm sure I'm not going to change your mind, maybe open up your mind a bit. Not everything is black and white even if you like to pretend so on the Internet. DRLs are good, high beam DRLs suck, Daniel Stern is an automotive lighting expert not a guy who doesn't like DRLs, What are your credentials?

Interestingly my old Lexus has the same high beam DRLs and I haven't bothered to disable them since it also has fantastic HID low beams I don't really use the high beams as much and don't care they are dimmed by the deposits from running at low power.

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Old 06-14-2013, 07:15 PM   #44
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Taking the light out and all that isn't needed.

A even more simple approach can be done.

Just remove two or three clips holding the fender liner on the passenger side, reach in unplug the grey connector. all done. put fender liner clips back in. Done in less than 5 min.
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Old 06-15-2013, 08:26 PM   #45
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Taking the light out and all that isn't needed.

A even more simple approach can be done.

Just remove two or three clips holding the fender liner on the passenger side, reach in unplug the grey connector. all done. put fender liner clips back in. Done in less than 5 min.
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Old 06-20-2013, 09:45 PM   #46
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I just got my '13 WRX Monday, and this is the first thing I did. I think it is unnecessary wear on lights. Although only a few dollars to replace, I don't believe it will raise awareness to anyone driving who would otherwise "not see a car coming". Its simple: drive like everyone is trying to wreck you. I drive like that every day.
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:26 AM   #47
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I just got my '13 WRX Monday, and this is the first thing I did. I think it is unnecessary wear on lights. Although only a few dollars to replace, I don't believe it will raise awareness to anyone driving who would otherwise "not see a car coming". Its simple: drive like everyone is trying to wreck you. I drive like that every day.
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Old 09-14-2013, 02:34 PM   #48
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Just did this and when I started the car the check engine and traction control lights came on and the Cruise light is blinking on the dash. I disconnected the MAF sensor and removed the airbox to do it. The DRL's are off so I'm pretty sure I got the right connector. Did anyone else experience this? Any responses appreciated.
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Old 09-14-2013, 08:36 PM   #49
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I just left it. Better safe than sorry.
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Old 09-15-2013, 08:15 AM   #50
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Am I the only person who drives with my night time lights on at all times of the day? I've always did this, even with cars from the 80s that had the flip up headlights that looked ugly. And most cars today automatically turn the lights off when you turn the car off.
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Nope, I do too!

There are too many people doing everything other than driving. I want every advantage I can get to be seen. Having put many, many miles on two wheels, anything I can do to be seen by cagers is a plus, and I don't care if that is on one of my bikes or my car.

What about when the sun is low behind you? How hard is it for oncoming traffic to see you? When the tables are turned, how hard is it to see oncoming traffic when the sun is directly in your eyes?

Even on my '03 WRX, I replaced 1 headlight bulb in 10 years, and 2 fog light bulbs. I left the lights on all the time since they go off when you turn off the key. Only difference with the '13 is the lights don't go off until I remove the key.

The very first answer to the question after an accident will be "I didn't see them." Every... single... time. (The "why" gets much more complicated.)

There are many good arguments for being seen. If you don't want them that's fine. Just don't make excuses for it.

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