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Old 10-26-2012, 06:55 PM   #26
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I had a 2003 Audi A4, absolutely crap of a car! Fuel Pump went out at 40K, dealership was a pain in the a@@ to work with! Unless you lease, stay far far far away from Audi...Just my 2 cents...
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Old 10-26-2012, 06:57 PM   #27
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STi sedan! WINGS!!!
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Old 10-26-2012, 07:35 PM   #28
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I have an 04 STi and I drive a 2012 S4 often. I love the way the S4 feels, crisp without being harsh and the power is so instant. I would take a S4 any day of the week over a STi. I love the STi, but the S4 is smooth and sleek while delivering everything you could want in a car.
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Old 10-26-2012, 07:43 PM   #29
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"If it's german and out of warranty (or in this case you're keeping it past warranty): pass"

Couple of my friends have had Audi's and they're great until like 80k-100k and then **** just falls apart.
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:22 PM   #30
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I got raped by an S4 the other day

I would get an S4 if it's brand new, or perhaps just lease one

Never buy german...
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:04 PM   #31
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Never buy german...
Now that a retarded statement, or maybe just ignorant... I'm not sure.
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:10 AM   #32
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You pay to play.

Being able to afford an Audi means being able to afford everything involved with owning an Audi. Now, I think that the reputation for long-term ownership of an Audi (or another German car) is overblown, especially in a modern age where cars are pretty damn reliable if you take care of them.

We have a 2005 A6, and it hasn't been bad at all. Oil changes every 10k, a few wear and tear items here and there (tires are eaten up fast by quattro), but no major components have died. The biggest out-of-warranty repair was both front door latches (went out within a few days of each other).

That being said, if you can afford an Audi (and I mean REALLY afford one, not just make the car payments), I would go with one. Subarus feel like econoboxes, Audis feel like luxury vehicles. Everything feels more solid, connected, and finer. The interior is worlds ahead, and I wouldn't even consider the two brands to be in the same league. It's just a more refined (but this isn't necessarily a bad thing if done correctly) and fancier car. Which you should expect for $xx,000 more.
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:17 AM   #33
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The only advantages I see to Audis is that the cabin tech is the best of the German brands, and of course the usual build-quality arguments.

If you can afford the Audi and have alternatives for when it's inevitably in the shop, then it will be the nicer car. If you are budget-conscious and depend on your daily driver for work/family, get the Subaru.
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:30 AM   #34
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There's good reason to why VW/Audi ranks near the bottom in terms of long-term dependability.
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:33 AM   #35
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I don't have any personal experience with Audis but IMO they seem to have a knack for turning out some of the best interior and exterior designs, downright gorgeous and in many cases better than BMW and Mercedes.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:04 AM   #36
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I haven't been a fan of the hatch UNLESS! It's done really nice a right, but stock I'm not a fan. I would go Sedan WRX STI or Lancer Evo GSR <3. Both are amazing IMO.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:12 AM   #37
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I haven't been a fan of the hatch UNLESS! It's done really nice a right, but stock I'm not a fan. I would go Sedan WRX STI or Lancer Evo GSR <3. Both are amazing IMO.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:48 AM   #38
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I haven't been a fan of the hatch UNLESS! It's done really nice a right, but stock I'm not a fan. I would go Sedan WRX STI or Lancer Evo GSR <3. Both are amazing IMO.
The hatch for me has the best mix of performance and utility.
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:09 AM   #39
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Does Audi offer an extended warranty?
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:26 AM   #40
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Does Audi offer an extended warranty?
From what I gather yes you have up until your factory one is up....if I am wrong please correct. That is a plus if that is the case, worth it for piece of mind. If not needed great but it's there.
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:46 AM   #41
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How many dealers of each brand in our area? Some cities only have one dealer then they have you over a barrel with no competition. I joke and say some of the dealers, especially German brand, can give you the car if you bring it in for scheduled service at their inflated prices. Call the dealer and ask what it cost to have your 50k service etc.
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Old 10-27-2012, 04:55 PM   #42
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I've owned many Audis: 92 S4, 93 90csq, 99 A4, 01 S4, and 06 S4. The 1992 S4 was by far the most reliable of them. It was built like a tank. The stock clutch lasted 225,000 miles. IMHO, build quality decreased from the early 90s through mid-2000s and is now improving again.

The trend has been increasing mechanical and electrical complexity resulting in stupid, non-critical failures like bad MAF, bad CrankPositionSensor, coolant leaks from plastic pipes, toasted sunroof motors, seized e-brake mechanisms, failed pixels on display screens, ABS controller death, and premature fuel pump failure. Most of these things are not a big deal, just annoying. If you own an Audi to 150k, chances are you will deal with stupid little stuff that you wouldn't deal with on a Japanese car. But the Audi S-cars are fun, that's for sure.
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:30 PM   #43
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I think the reputation and rankings VW/Audi (but more Audi, I still hear horror stories about modern VW's) have are due to the mid 1990's to 2000's. You don't really hear about excessive shop time for the newer models.

I think it's like the STi ringlands... you're not going to post all over the place if your ringlands didn't blow up will you?
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:50 PM   #44
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Now that a retarded statement, or maybe just ignorant... I'm not sure.
Hey, if your pockets run deep then go ahead and buy german cars.

Every part will cost 3x more than it should
Maintainence as well.
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:20 PM   #45
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Hey, if your pockets run deep then go ahead and buy german cars.

Every part will cost 3x more than it should
Maintainence as well.
Audis are good car just expensive to maintain
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:05 PM   #46
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Hey, if your pockets run deep then go ahead and buy german cars.

Every part will cost 3x more than it should
Maintainence as well.
The two sets of rotors and pads, maf sensor and valve cover gasket that my 240k mile 2001 CLK430 required over the last 11 years actually cost less than my previous mustang...

Best and cheapest car I've ever owned
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:16 PM   #47
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Depends on the driving you do if you are on the highway a lot go with the Audi I don't care what anyone says nothing feels more at place than an Audi on the highway. Parents had one 3 yr lease however I will say weird things break like the gas gauge etc just things you wouldn't expect on a new car. Note I have never driven an Sti op just ask what you plan to do with the car and go from there.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:27 PM   #48
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if like getting hosed at the dealership/mechanic everytime the car breaks.........get the nazi sled
Lol you said nazi sled. Every Audi I've ever heard of from friends has had serious issues, but so can any other car....lol
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:28 PM   #49
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From what I gather yes you have up until your factory one is up....if I am wrong please correct. That is a plus if that is the case, worth it for piece of mind. If not needed great but it's there.
With the Audis I've owned, yes....as long as the factory is in tact, you can buy an extended warantee from Audi. It is very expensive. An Audi CPO car warantee is better than the new car warantee, but the advertised mileage is not quite correct. Read the actual warantee wording.....cars don't go to 100k miles automatically. If it's a low mileage car, the warantee ends sooner than that by quite a bit.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:37 PM   #50
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I got raped by an S4 the other day

I would get an S4 if it's brand new, or perhaps just lease one

Never buy german...
You stock? I could smoke the piss out of my buddies 05 w/o even trying and I'm only stage 2. Tanks, but nice cars.
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