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Old 02-20-2013, 01:24 PM   #301
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Remind me to hook my starter up while the engine is out to prime my oil pump and then install spark plugs and coils before dropping it back in.

LOL I bet you are kicking yourself, you could have had it almost broke in by now.

Glad you got it going and everything else is doing great
You wanna prime the motor right before you start it. So no point doing it on the stand, plus its not any harder to do while in the car.



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I really really wanted to have that pipe wrapped to keep my engine temps down, but at this point it's not worth it to me to pull the turbo and up pipe to re-wrap it. I still have the PTP Lava turbo blanket, so that should help. Also, now I'm a little scared of a leak causing a fire. I've been reading the rotated / power steering line thread and I saw a picture of a car toasted from the line breaking and leaking on the up pipe. Total loss...
Fires are definitely no fun Ive been there I know its rice but carrying a fire extinguisher in the car is a good idea.
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:33 PM   #302
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Fires are definitely no fun Ive been there I know its rice but carrying a fire extinguisher in the car is a good idea.
I keep a fire extinguisher in my car at ALL times. I actually recommend testing them on occasion as well. Last night I tested the one in my car and it did NOT work, so I need to pick up another one asap. Nothing rice about it. Just smart.

I'm looking into an under hood fire suppression kit. Need to do some research. The idea of a toasted engine bay frightens me. Time to put some gap insurance on my car as well.
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:19 PM   #303
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Wow good to know about testing them!! I woulda never thought of that
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:08 PM   #304
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Mikey wants me to log "Feedback knock correction" -- I can't seem to find it on RomRaider. I see "Knock Correction Advance", "Learned Ignition Timing" and "A/F Lean Correction" -- do either of these correspond to "Feedback knock correction"?

BTW - I see it in my Cobb AP, but I can't log on the Cobb AP b/c it keeps losing connection to the ECU. There must be a RomRaider analogue, similar to how Cobb has "Dynamic Multiplier" and RomRaider uses "IAM" instead.

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Old 02-20-2013, 06:27 PM   #305
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I think it's KCA. Google?
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:41 PM   #306
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A few months ago my romraider was updated and I don't have "feedback knock correction" on my parameter list any more unless its plugged into my car. Not sure why, guess its time to ask in the tuner forum...
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:45 PM   #307
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I use ecu edit but when I used Romraider in the past it was feed back knock correction. There is also a fine learning knock correction that he is likely to want you to log.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:02 PM   #308
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Feedback knock correction is an advanced parameter that needs info from the ecu
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:56 PM   #309
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Feedback knock correction is an advanced parameter that needs info from the ecu
What? It's just a loggable parameter like any other. Manifold relative pressure corrected, total ignition timing, primary wastegate duty cycle, load, rpm, etc these are all parameters he should be able to select from the list.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:18 PM   #310
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What? It's just a loggable parameter like any other. Manifold relative pressure corrected, total ignition timing, primary wastegate duty cycle, load, rpm, etc these are all parameters he should be able to select from the list.
Yeah, but its not there at all. One of them used to be but plug it into car and poof it's gone. I'm fairly familiar with romraider, so this is perplexing

EDIT: I did have RomRaider already running, then I turned my key on. Do I need my key on first, then load RomRaider?

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Old 02-21-2013, 04:29 PM   #311
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Start the car. Then start up romradier.

You can also start romradier, hit the stop button, start the car, and then hit refresh.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:12 PM   #312
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If you have logging presets you may have to reselect the parameters as resave if any of them changed.

The post above describes what I was talking about. Some parameters are not selectable without input from the ECU
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:57 PM   #313
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I think everyone else covered it. I guess I don't encounter that problem because I don't start logging if the car isnt running. Man I'm a whole bunch of fail at helping solve your problems lol.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:32 PM   #314
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I'll double check. I probably need to restart romraider. Thanks
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:31 AM   #315
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The transmission and body has about 225k. The engine has zero.
Ok I knew you rebuilt it and its basically new. But it has some millage on it yes. For example I just finished a built motor for my forester. At the end of last week, I had about 450 miles on it. Week before that I had 278 miles on it. this week I have around 570 miles on my new motor.

So how many miles did you have when you did a compression test? Have you done a leakdown test?

Depending on how you go about breaking it in you should be able too do a reliable compression/leakdown test once you have 500 miles. on it. Maybe do one again after 1000 miles.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:05 PM   #316
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Ok I knew you rebuilt it and its basically new. But it has some millage on it yes. For example I just finished a built motor for my forester. At the end of last week, I had about 450 miles on it. Week before that I had 278 miles on it. this week I have around 570 miles on my new motor.

So how many miles did you have when you did a compression test? Have you done a leakdown test?

Depending on how you go about breaking it in you should be able too do a reliable compression/leakdown test once you have 500 miles. on it. Maybe do one again after 1000 miles.
No, the engine has zero miles. My build thread has chronicled my engine build from beginning to it's first start which was just a couple days ago. It has only been started twice and still has zero miles on it. When I did the compression test, it had never run. Ever.

I have a leak on the power steering line and my P&L AVCS oil line is leaking so I need to fix that before I can get it on the road.

Plus I need to figure out how to get my tuning parameters logged.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:02 PM   #317
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Ok Sorry I havent been following your thread post by post. I just sort of popped in as I like seeing foresters build. I spend very little time on here these days as I wrench on scoobs all day and need a break when I get home. lol

You deff need 500 miles on it before doing a compression test. rings need to seat... Im assume someone has already mentioned this in a post I havent read.

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Old 02-22-2013, 07:06 PM   #318
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It looks like exhaust is coming out of my EWG. Is that supposed to happen? I thought the EWG only opened up at a certain amount of boost. I put in a 1 bar spring combo.

Also, I upgraded romraider to the newest version and it will not read from my ECU anymore, so I can't log anything. You may be wondering why I want to use RomRaider if I am using the Cobb AP -- well, for some reason my Cobb AP keeps losing contact with my ECU, especially during logs. So now I can't log with Cobb, and I can't log with RomRaider. Starting to get really frustrated. I can't keep starting the car and idling it without breaking it in.

Also, I get a major hesitation around 3,000 rpm's -- I got a CEL and it was for my crank position sensor. I tried to use Learning View to look at the CEL, but it said it did not recognize the ECU. I'm not sure if that I because I have Cobb loaded on there or not. A lot of confusion right now. Add to that I can't seem to get Mikey to get back to me.

Here is the video of the EWG. By the time I got my cell phone, the smoke from the EWG had subsided.


Thanks for any input.

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Old 02-22-2013, 07:25 PM   #319
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Video is private but if it was coming from the ewg you'd probably hear it. mine has 3 stages of sound, idle and putting around, gettin' it, full boost obnoxious (when the wg is open)

It could be just condensation or packing oil on the inside of the dump tube, it it went away things should be good. When you get the logs working you should be able to see a difference in pressure at the MAP sensor and target boost pressure.

I thought romraiders site had a spot to download previous versions. I know it was a paint to get mine working with the .dll files and linking locations of files.
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Video is private but if it was coming from the ewg you'd probably hear it. mine has 3 stages of sound, idle and putting around, gettin' it, full boost obnoxious (when the wg is open)

It could be just condensation or packing oil on the inside of the dump tube, it it went away things should be good. When you get the logs working you should be able to see a difference in pressure at the MAP sensor and target boost pressure.

I thought romraiders site had a spot to download previous versions. I know it was a paint to get mine working with the .dll files and linking locations of files.
Sorry, I uploaded the video from my phone. I usually use my Sanyo HD2000 to record videos. I didn't realize the video would be set to private.

Also, I tried to download the short logs I was able to get from my Cobb AP and it says it failed to copy the files to my PC. I am REALLY starting to hate this Cobb AP. I'm not sure if my cable is bad or if the connector is going bad. I may buy a new cable...

BTW, yes the smoke/steam from the EWG disappeared, but this has happened every time I start the engine. Either there is an exhaust leak or it's coming out the EWG.
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Re: the Cobb AP. I can connect to the OBD II port just fine, but then it seems to intermittently lose connection to the ECU. When I first installed the AP, I actually lost connection during the flash process and it had to revert/recover back to the original pre-AP map. Any time I mess with it, I make sure to keep it perfectly still.

I am wondering if it is the cable or the connector? The cables are $45 so I don't want to buy one if I don't need to.

PICS of the cable in question:



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Old 02-23-2013, 03:24 PM   #322
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So............... ummmm............. yeah...........

I think I figured out why there is smoke coming from my EWG......

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Old 02-23-2013, 04:05 PM   #323
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Nice... you can fix that while you wait hear back from Cobb about a new cable (they might hook you up, call and ask).

ECU$>>cable$ You're way to far into this to be worried about 45$.
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:11 AM   #324
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So............... ummmm............. yeah...........

I think I figured out why there is smoke coming from my EWG......
Haha missing fire ring Sooo many people forget this.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:11 PM   #325
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Looks like I'm going to have to take the whole goddamn turbo and up pipe off to do this. One step forward, two steps back.

The valve seat presses up on the spring on the EWG - interfering with the two surfaces mating up. There is no leverage to do anything.

Also, my turbo oil drain line is leaking at the AN fittings and dripping on to the up pipe. I'm just going to go back to the regular rubber hose and screw the AN bs....

At least I can re-wrap the up pipe. I'll put some foil over it on the re-install in case there are other leaks I'm not aware of.
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