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Old 11-03-2012, 05:36 PM   #1
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Default Winter tires worth it?

I'm on the fence about winter tires... last winter we saw like 3 days of snow, is it really justifiable to drop 800 bucks on snowies for our winters here?

How are the stock Dunlops on snow? I can't decide whether to get a set or if it's a waste of money.

What does everyone do around Van? Go for it or no?
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:42 PM   #2
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Worth it, winter tires are for more then just snow, 7 degrees and below all seasons or in your case the Dunlops harden and lose their stopping, steering capablities. IMHO winter winters are very worth it.
I drove on the Dunlops last year for a little while in the winter, they sucked.
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:02 PM   #3
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800 or a claim and smashed car?


yes you can get away if they where all season and you don't leave the core.

but if you drive burnaby/north shore or anywhere that sees below 7 (as mentioned above) you will want good winter tires or at the least some allseason .... but really if your going summer + another set just get winters, be done. Enjoy the snow in a car meant to see snow.



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Old 11-03-2012, 08:00 PM   #4
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I'm on the fence about winter tires... last winter we saw like 3 days of snow, is it really justifiable to drop 800 bucks on snowies for our winters here?

How are the stock Dunlops on snow? I can't decide whether to get a set or if it's a waste of money.

What does everyone do around Van? Go for it or no?
Probably not a good idea.

Stock 2010+ Dunlop SP 600's are technically summer perf tires in anyone's eyes. Sure from a high-end aspect, they're more of a high perf all season.

But I managed to slip my 2011 a lot during one day with a lotta snow on Kerr (near marine). Was pretty sudden too. Yes, with AWD, you can go. But can you stop? That's where the weight of the STis kill it. If you think about it, maybe a set of really nice all seasons? But I always go dedicated summers/winters.
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:01 AM   #5
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If you get in a accident and there is snow or ice on the ground and don't have a good set of tires on your car icbc will be all up in your ass
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Old 11-04-2012, 02:15 AM   #6
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in those 3 days that it snowed I never got stuck or had to change my driving except be more aware of my conditions, and it didn't take me 10 seconds to get to 20 km/h like some civics on all seasons that I saw. Felt like every other day with my snowy's on, def worth the money
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:49 AM   #7
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I'll say it again! Go Winter-Mode bro! Get some snowies on!
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Old 11-04-2012, 11:59 AM   #8
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Alright, thanks for the input guys. I guess it's a unanimous decision, I'm gettin snowies.

I guess it will be fun to mob around in winter mode for a bit... maybe even hit the mountains for the drive.

Now to just find a decent deal...
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:14 PM   #9
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Alright, thanks for the input guys. I guess it's a unanimous decision, I'm gettin snowies.

I guess it will be fun to mob around in winter mode for a bit... maybe even hit the mountains for the drive.

Now to just find a decent deal...
Dales Alignment offers great deals
Craigslist if you know your stuff and are brave
States if you find a deal worth the drive
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:18 PM   #10
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Sorat in north van has winters and steelies for 599,I just called them yesterday,that's a great deal.but I'm looking for a studable tire cause of the more aggressive tread pattern.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:32 PM   #11
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Sorat in north van has winters and steelies for 599,I just called them yesterday,that's a great deal.but I'm looking for a studable tire cause of the more aggressive tread pattern.
Thats an insanely good deal. Make sure you clear the brembos though. If you have to use a spacer, I wouldn't go more than 5mm
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:44 PM   #12
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Don't forget that winter tires are designed for rain as well as snow. Winter here in BC is undeniably wet and slushy, having good winters will help you control your car and combat hydro planing. I always run dedicated all seasons and winters.

You will be happy once you get yourself a set!
Good luck
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Old 11-04-2012, 06:41 PM   #13
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Totally worth it, the stock dunlops sucks major balls in snow as they're summer tires. Last year, the weather cleared up and I though I'll relower my suspension and put my summer wheels with dunlops back on my car. The next morning small blanket of snow, and I was sliding all over the place.
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Old 11-04-2012, 11:05 PM   #14
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Gotta say, snowies prolly one of the best bang for your buck upgrades for your subie. Just wish I had done it earlier!
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:15 AM   #15
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Yes. Worth it if you have room for them over the summer. I went all season. Need to get a good set of extra wheels for some dedicated winters.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:54 AM   #16
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No comparison between "all season" and "ALL WEATHER". All seasons are misleading. If they don't have the "snow flake" symbol on them, don't expect they will do anything to save your life once the temps get close to zero. There are about only 4 real "all-weather" tires out on the market. Which are great for Vancouverites who don't have space for multiple sets, or are great because you drive on bare roads most the time but need the safety and traction of snowies.

Snow tires are basically finished once they hit 60% tread depth, too stiff for grip on ice etc.

Please for everyones sake, if you dont have proper tires when there is ice, frost and snow on the roads.....take the bus and keep the rest of us safe
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:48 PM   #17
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Worth it for sure,
But still watch out for other driver in your rear view mirror.
Winter tire help a lot, but still a lot or driver stilll only stick with their 4 season.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:48 PM   #18
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Grabbed a set of ContiWinterContact TS790's off Craigslist this eve. $500 bucks, good reviews too.

All we need now is some snow!

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Old 11-05-2012, 11:08 PM   #19
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craigslist is a great place to find cheap winter tires that someone had on their mustang for a year and then sold... like my pa3's
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:51 PM   #20
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I just got PA4's!... Seriously stoked for some fun in the snow. Last year on the first night I had the car I drove to squamish and it snowed like crazy. The summer Dunlops are crap in the snow, I felt more confident in my old 240sx w/snow set. Its ALL about the tire.

I just hope I can still wag the tail like I used to on all my old RWD cars.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:01 PM   #21
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I just got PA4's!... Seriously stoked for some fun in the snow. Last year on the first night I had the car I drove to squamish and it snowed like crazy. The summer Dunlops are crap in the snow, I felt more confident in my old 240sx w/snow set. Its ALL about the tire.

I just hope I can still wag the tail like I used to on all my old RWD cars.
Oh you will have some fun dont worry. I've never had a Subaru in the winter yet, but all of my past cars have been Audi and they were a blast in the snow.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:03 PM   #22
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I just got PA4's!... Seriously stoked for some fun in the snow. Last year on the first night I had the car I drove to squamish and it snowed like crazy. The summer Dunlops are crap in the snow, I felt more confident in my old 240sx w/snow set. Its ALL about the tire.

I just hope I can still wag the tail like I used to on all my old RWD cars.
You sure can. Traction control off
Dccd set to manual 3 bars
Sport # mode

You'll be going sideways and tail happy in no time
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:23 PM   #23
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I live in Kamloops . travel the coke a lot . go to the ski hill 3 times a week and for the last 7 yrs our subie has gone all winter on all season tires . I have a set of mounted winter tires I bring out for Totem and Thunderbird rally . We get a lot more snow than you will ever see at the coast and with a subie the all seasons do just fine . Be very smooth with the throttle and the steering and you will have no problems . Winter tires , if you get them , wear out very quickly on pavement and then they are no better than all seasons .

Thats my 2 cents worth from an old age pensioner .
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:30 PM   #24
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The snow in Kamloops isn't nearly as gross as the wet/slush we get here on the coast. It often isn't about the amount of snow we get down here but the type of snow. Get snow tires.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:20 PM   #25
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Last year Nanaimo saw basically no snow - but in 2008 there was snow on the ground for several weeks. Every year is different.

I went for nokian wrg2 - so they work in the snow, and work in the rain and general dank we have for much of the year... and they work if you decide you want to go to somewhere snowy!
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