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Old 11-06-2012, 03:04 PM   #1
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I bought this software 3 years ago and hated it. Couldn't get it to work with my 02 WRX. If you look at my old posts you'll see I even badmouthed it.

Over the summer I got bored and decided to give it another shot. Why, you ask? Especially with a program as polished as RomRaider easily available? 3 reasons:

1. Customizable virtual gauges
2. Alarms
3. Cheap add-on sensor support

These features were important to me because I was looking to forego traditional gauges for an all-in-one solution via a carpc. Unfortunately, I found not much had changed. The program was more stable, but most parameters still didn't work. For some odd reason I felt the need to change that. I'm computer illiterate so it took me a long time, but I found the correct addresses and formulas for most of the parameters and added them. Now I can datalog every useful parameter, including:

Mass Airflow
Injector Duty Cycle
Wastegate Duty Cycle
Boost Error
IAM
Feedback KC
Fine Learning KC

With this the program was finally usable. What made it even better, though, was the DLP IO8. It's a data acquisition module that will read up to eight 0-5v signals and report to EvoScan. Since most sensor outputs are 0-5 volts, you can use almost any kind of sensor. Out of the box EvoScan will only display raw voltage, but with some math I was able to convert the units for my AEM oil pressure sensor and GM IAT sensor to psi and degrees F.

Unfortunately I don't have customer support to thank for any of this. They're difficult to get help from. But with my amendments EvoScan is ALMOST at the point where I'm completely satisfied with it, and I'm a very picky person (they still need to add some features such as switchable profiles and fast poll).

What makes me even more excited is the announcement of the EvoDroid, an android version of EvoScan installed in a tablet. This eliminates the need for a carpc, reducing the cost for my setup (SSM parameter monitoring and 3 or 4 add-on gauges) from about $550 to $330 (including the cost of sensors), arguably making this the cheapest, AND most aesthetically pleasing gauge solution around.

Unfortunately the EvoDroid only works on evos at the moment, but with enough interest they will add Subaru compatibility. If you are interested, express that interest on this thread or by contacting them directly here.


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Old 11-06-2012, 03:55 PM   #2
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I use EVOscan a lot since I tune EVOs. IMO its a way better program then RR. RR always crashes and theres no graphing feature. EvoScan has faster logging, better graphing and even virtual dyno built in.

I also tried to make the parameters works, but it hard if you tune multiple cars like I do, as for some parameter like load, there is different request address for each different ROM.

When I get another Subaru, I was gonna revisit making EvoScan work. Also, I talk to Hamish (the creator) sometimes. Maybe I can get him to ramp up the Subaru support and make this program work awesome with subys.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:37 PM   #3
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I'm sure you've had much more experience with both programs so I can't argue with you on most of your points. But you're wrong about logging speed: when taking just Subarus into consideration, romraider has way faster logging than evoscan... like 3x faster. The only reason evoscan logs so fast for evos is because they have a much higher baud rate to begin with. In my opinion it is the biggest roadblock to evoscan becoming a really solid program. The request address issue is not as big of a deal, as you can always keep separate settings and switch between them when needed.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:31 PM   #4
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I'm sure you've had much more experience with both programs so I can't argue with you on most of your points. But you're wrong about logging speed: when taking just Subarus into consideration, romraider has way faster logging than evoscan... like 3x faster. The only reason evoscan logs so fast for evos is because they have a much higher baud rate to begin with. In my opinion it is the biggest roadblock to evoscan becoming a really solid program. The request address issue is not as big of a deal, as you can always keep separate settings and switch between them when needed.
Isnt the increased speed in RR from "Fast Polling". The RR I have installed on my tuning laptop doesnt have the "fast polling", so maybe thats why its "slow" to me.

And yeah, I havent used it much on Subys, but on EVOs it logs at about 120-130 samples/sec, which is way faster then RR. But like you said, its from the higher baud rate of the MUTIII protocol.

But getting the request address for every random car I tune would be tedious n time consuming, especially when RR already has them all (even with its flaws).
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:58 PM   #5
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Yeah, the increased speed is from fast polling. It really makes a world of a difference.

Anyway, to the mods: is there any way this could be moved to Open Source Reflashes? I think the topic would get more interest there.
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